16 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Still don't get it.  How can you buy an American product if it is not made in America anymore.  Things have changed immensely in 25 years.  Stop living in the past and reminiscing about the good old days.  This 2025, not 2000. 

No, you still don't get it.   It will never change if you keep doing the same things, buying imports.  You have to start somewhere, and this is the start.

 

All you folks that supposedly cared, let all the US manufacturing and production get outsourced.  Now you can change that, or keep things the same.   But stop complaining about what YOU did.

 

Buy USA, or as much as possible, or STFU and continue to be the problem.  The reality is, YOU created, YOU have to fix it.  Trump has the plan that will work, if you help him.   Big IF, as y'all don't care.

 

I never cared, just adapted & adjusted.   Lithographic publishing got taken over by computer publishing, so I went to steel mill, and imports killed that, so went to 'services', bakery & truck driving, while developing own businesses, after and while working for 4 airlines, 3 in bankruptcy.

 

Stop crying and just do.  Instead of complaining, about what you allowed.   It's not rocket science.

 

When available, I bought ...

VW

Datsun (1979)

Nissan

Mazda

Honda

 

Now I buy Chinese and Thai everything, because they do everything better.  

 

If you care about USA, buy USA, and maybe in a decade or 2, they might actually produce something worth buying ... 

17 hours ago, bubblegum said:

BTW (and this must be terrible to hear) his great success with China was reverting to the way things where in January. Ergo, the Bidens deal!

but he wants credit for it claiming he made a tremendous deal, the reality is that's only an intentional agreement no deal yet but as always he jumps the gun

1 hour ago, Rocky Sullivan said:

The primary reason Obama was awarded the Prize immediately after winning the presidency is…. 
 

Fill in the blank.

 

(Note:  Elected while black doesn’t count).

Seriously, Rocky — filling in the blanks in a MAGA’s thought process isn’t somewhere most people would want to go — it’s like spelunking in a dark cave full of bat💩, guided only by Fox echoes.

 

2 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Seriously, Rocky — filling in the blanks in a MAGA’s thought process isn’t somewhere most people would want to go — it’s like spelunking in a dark cave full of bat💩, guided only by Fox echoes.

 

You just proved my point.

 

Even you can’t fill in the blank.

 

Can anyone?

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

 

Trump has a plan?  Please explain exactly what his plan is.

On 10/30/2025 at 7:18 PM, jerrymahoney said:

'US Blinked' in Trump, Xi Meeting, Peterson Institute Senior Fellow Says

October 31st, 2025, 1:22 AM GMT+0700

Mary Lovely, nonresident senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, said that the US 'blinked' as the Trump administration attempted to gain leverage in trade negotiations with China, leaving negotiators in a weak position. (Source: Bloomberg)

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2025-10-30/-us-blinked-in-trump-xi-meeting-says-mary-lovely-video

The reality is that Trump is not only a terrible negotiator, but he does not even realize that China holds the strongest cards, and America has overplayed it's hand to the point where Chinese influence is growing by the day, and US influence is weakening by the day, and it is very likely that Trump is destroying American prestige to the point where it may never recover. He is a major goon. 

27 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Trump has a plan?  Please explain exactly what his plan is.

Seriously ... he's explained enough, and I've repeated it enough.  We, I can repeat it 100 times, but apparently, you can't understand it, and nothing I can say now, is going to change that.

 

Good Luck

 

The hate exhibited on AN, seems to blind any common sense thinking.  Anything else I say will be reported as offensive, and yet another post of mine will be deleted.

Wow -- that's pretty good. All that from your memory. Were you the guy in the lower right corner and only see your hands?

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Seriously ... he's explained enough, and I've repeated it enough.  We, I can repeat it 100 times, but apparently, you can't understand it, and nothing I can say now, is going to change that.

 

Good Luck

 

The hate exhibited on AN, seems to blind any common sense thinking.  Anything else I say will be reported as offensive, and yet another post of mine will be deleted.

Just as I thought.  There is no "real" plan, only a bunch of nonsensical ideas that change from day to day.  And you still have not explained how I can buy a made in America product that does not exist.

2 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Your "independent news" quote? It's Xi praising Trump's "significant involvement" in Gaza and the Cambodia-Thailand accord while politely noting China's "assistance." That's not a "rebuke" — it's standard CCP face-saving ("we helped too"). Reality: Xi conceded on trade, and the accord credits U.S. mediation. Trump's not "outplayed"; he's the deal-closer.

Xi's Full Quote (Context): "Mr. President, you place great importance on global peace... I appreciate your significant involvement in the recent Gaza ceasefire... During your visit to Malaysia, you witnessed the signing... China has assisted... in our own way." No "dismantling" — just Xi nodding to Trump's role while claiming a slice. White House readout: "Constructive... agreed to extend truce."Xi "stressed" multilateralism? Boilerplate — he does that at every summit.

 

EV Tariffs: "10% cut = nothing"? Wrong — it's a 25% reduction from Trump's 100% threat, saving U.S. buyers $10B/year on 1M EVs (Bloomberg). China (world's top EV maker) eats it to access U.S. market — buyer pays, yes, but U.S. consumers win with cheaper imports while domestic production ramps (IRA subsidies).

 

Soybeans: "12M tons = pittance vs. 12.6B pre-2025"? False — that's 12M metric tons for 2025/26 season (Dec 2025–Jan 2026), plus 25M/year for 3 years (total 87M tons, $34B at current prices, per Veda Partners/USDA).

Pre-tariff norm: 28–36M/year; Biden's phase-one got zilch. This flips 12B back to U.S. farmers — Brazil's "higher protein" edge? Marketing; U.S. yields 20% more/acre. "China = pittance"? It's 12B revenue, easing the 24.5B soy export hit.

 

Border Demilitarization: "Armies still there, not full"? Partial truth, full progress — accord commits to "prompt" heavy weapons removal (tanks, artillery, rockets) monitored by ASEAN observers; Thailand releases 18 Cambodian POWs upon compliance.

Process started October 31: 2-month pullback, including Cambodian rocket launchers. No shots since July; 50k refugees home. "Not all"? Progress, not perfection — better than Biden's stalled 2024 talks.

 

Gifts/Nobel: "Stroking ego"? Standard diplomacy — SK: Grand Order of Mugunghwa + Silla crown (highest honor, first U.S. prez). Japan: Abe's putter + gold balls. Malaysia: Nobel recommendation (Anwar: "Took charge"). "Everyone sees him for what he is"? They see a deal-maker — 15B in pacts, ASEAN stability. "Sorting trade without USA"? Flop — China’s "Belt and Road" debt-traps repel; Trump's deals deliver (e.g., 2.6B Thai farm buys).

 

Bottom Line: Xi praised, not rebuked; 12B soy + 25M/year = 34B haul; border pullback underway; gifts = respect. Trump's "outplayed"? He's the player — Asia's betting on U.S. strength, not China's strings.

 

 

News source, anyone can do the research

Xi comments were obviously lost on you as it was on trump

Standard CCP face saving, you can say it is standard trump saying he is so amazing at everything.

White House readout – do you really believe anything they say?

EV – 10% cut you originally mentioned now you say 25%? Plus, you say consumers win. They are still paying a higher price because of the tariffs, if you think that is a win so be it.

Soybean – you quoted $2.5billion buy – if you had said 12million metric tons in the first place then yes that is correct, as for 87million metric tons to 2028, well as we all know things change very quickly and I would say China will cut it off again if required, it will not hurt China as they are setting up the new markets in South America, installing rail and road and ports to secure their soybean source which takes time to build. There will be no security for the USA soybean in the future. Once the infrastructure is built an operational then bye bye USA.

Border Demilitarization – in part, only time will tell, best to look at after December

 

Gifts/Nobel: they see him for what he is, a grifter and they know how to play him

 

Bottom Line – you cannot see the forest because of the trees.

2 hours ago, stupidfarang said:

News source, anyone can do the research

Xi comments were obviously lost on you as it was on trump

Standard CCP face saving, you can say it is standard trump saying he is so amazing at everything.

White House readout – do you really believe anything they say?

EV – 10% cut you originally mentioned now you say 25%? Plus, you say consumers win. They are still paying a higher price because of the tariffs, if you think that is a win so be it.

Soybean – you quoted $2.5billion buy – if you had said 12million metric tons in the first place then yes that is correct, as for 87million metric tons to 2028, well as we all know things change very quickly and I would say China will cut it off again if required, it will not hurt China as they are setting up the new markets in South America, installing rail and road and ports to secure their soybean source which takes time to build. There will be no security for the USA soybean in the future. Once the infrastructure is built an operational then bye bye USA.

Border Demilitarization – in part, only time will tell, best to look at after December

 

Gifts/Nobel: they see him for what he is, a grifter and they know how to play him

 

Bottom Line – you cannot see the forest because of the trees.

Xi’s Quote: Credits Trump’s “significant involvement” in Gaza & Cambodia-Thailand — praise, not rebuke (corroborated by White House/Blue House/Reuters).

EV Tariffs: 10-point cut (57% → 47%) saves U.S. buyers $10B/year — China eats the hit.

Soybeans: 12M tons now + 25M/year for 3 = $34B locked in — Biden got zero. Brazil’s edge? Debt-trap; U.S. yields win.

Border: Phased pullback underway (tanks/rockets moving, ASEAN-monitored) — peace holds, 50k refugees home. Gifts/Nobel: Highest honors + genuine recs = respect, not ego-stroking.

Bottom Line: Trump won trade, peace, concessions. Your “outplayed” = cope.

19 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

You had the option of returning the money if you felt that strongly, but you did not because you were greedy and kept it.

you're funny...where did I say anything that I didn't like or want the money??

 

I was pointing out basic economics, injecting large amounts of cash into the system will cause 

inflation as people go buy things which increases demand for those items which will increase inflation. 

 

1 hour ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Xi’s Quote: Credits Trump’s “significant involvement” in Gaza & Cambodia-Thailand — praise, not rebuke (corroborated by White House/Blue House/Reuters).

EV Tariffs: 10-point cut (57% → 47%) saves U.S. buyers $10B/year — China eats the hit.

Soybeans: 12M tons now + 25M/year for 3 = $34B locked in — Biden got zero. Brazil’s edge? Debt-trap; U.S. yields win.

Border: Phased pullback underway (tanks/rockets moving, ASEAN-monitored) — peace holds, 50k refugees home. Gifts/Nobel: Highest honors + genuine recs = respect, not ego-stroking.

Bottom Line: Trump won trade, peace, concessions. Your “outplayed” = cope.

Bwahaha! 25M Soya tons/year is around what China used to import from the US before Trump's mandate.

Back to square one after a lot of fuss for nothing! 

 

https://www.fas.usda.gov/regions/china

On 10/31/2025 at 8:33 AM, BKKKevin said:

Trump wouldnt know these guys without placards... 

 

He’s already forgotten and moved onto his next photo op. 

13 hours ago, Tug said:

We don’t make much here anymore that’s not MY fault so how does that give trump the right to make me pay more and pocket the difference via a tariff tax or if you will trump tax?

you're correct it's not your fault, it's the fault of the US government and their Free Trade agreements. 

 

What is trying to be done with the Tariff's is a push to bring back manufacturing.  Over the past few decades the US lost thousands of factories which moved to China.

Some then moved from China to Vietnam. 

 

Free trade agreements did what for the USA? We got lower priced items in return we lost good paying jobs, with companies making record profits.  Great for companies to cut costs, not great for Americans losing good paying jobs (not all jobs lost were good jobs)

 

It's not just that, it's also the way US companies are treated when trying to export or enter into another country.  Good example is Thailand with their high import taxes, Tariff, VAT etc.

Need to have a Thai majority ownership etc.   (Thankfully the USA and Thailand do have an agreement so I could own my company in Thailand 100%) 

Try opening a company in China and then hope your product idea doesn't get copied, along with tuff going out the back door. (happened to us and several other guys I know in China)

 

Your mind is closed from your hatred of Trump.  Clear your mind and think about the big picture not just what Trump does is bad. 

I'm going to say this again... I dont really like Trump! I think he's a used car salesman type of a guy, big mouth over the top, I'm the greatest!

 

However, I do support allot of what he's trying to do. International business has been difficult for years. Chinese companies getting better shipping rates from the US post office than

domestic shipping rates.  My friend in NY had a small coffee cup factory mostly putting peoples pictures on coffee mugs. 

A Chinese company started doing the same thing and the shipping from China to anywhere in the USA was lower than what he could ship from NY. They beat him on price because of shipping rates.

 

These are the things normal people (like you) living their lives in the USA dont know or  understand that international trade has not been fair. Mom and pop shops you see around Thailand making small items are gone in the USA. 

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