On 11/14/2025 at 2:09 PM, riclag said:

I'm Trying to be polite .

You are more patient than myself - of which I was recently reminded with a reprimand recently 🙂 

15 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

You are more patient than myself - of which I was recently reminded with a reprimand recently 🙂 

PM me

Good News, The perps of  fake News are being held accountable.

"Trump announces lawsuit of up to $5 billion against BBC over edited Jan 6 speech documentary"

https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-announces-lawsuit-up-5-billion-against-bbc-over-edited-jan-6-speech-documentary

3 hours ago, riclag said:

Good News, The perps of  fake News are being held accountable.

"Trump announces lawsuit of up to $5 billion against BBC over edited Jan 6 speech documentary"

https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-announces-lawsuit-up-5-billion-against-bbc-over-edited-jan-6-speech-documentary

 

And non-enforceable. And, unless he has a stooge judge, it will get tossed out under SLAPP laws in Florida. If he bans the BBC from the US, then I suppose reportage on the US will be reduced to "and in other news..." or a Beeb reporter, preferably dressed in war spec ballistics spec vest and helmet, will be reporting from the Canadian or Mexican border, prefacing the byline with "Due to reporting restrictions I cannot tell you....."

 

At worst, BBC America will declare bankruptcy, and you won't get reruns of Top Gear, Dr Who, Sherlock, and bizarrely, that Southern Belle's favourite, Are You Being Served (they loved the homosexual in that show). It will drag out, then he will keel over, and it ends. BBC America makes about $40m a year; not insignificant, but against annual overall revenue of $2.5bn..

 

I wonder about the motivation of people who repetitively post, with little original thought. Perhaps the frustration of realising that after 70 year on this earth, all you have to show for it is an "ex"-hooker wife who apparently is shagging some bloke you thought was her brother, and you tread in the night soil in the field of your small holding, which isn't actually yours, growing rice which you don't even like. So you have to do something to keep yourself busy, that doesn't cost any money, because, well, you don't have any, anymore, except the Life Insurance.

On 11/14/2025 at 5:25 AM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

the owners of the show itself (UK Govt).

 

 

The UK Government does not own the BBC. I know for you, as a North Korean, that is difficult to fathom. The BBC exists as a Public Corporation, established by Royal Charter. You have no concept of this, as a North Korean (only North Koreans have this idea that the government owns everything)

 

The President is not taking action against the British Government, no matter what your Dear Leader is telling you.

 

Ironically, the President was completely unaware of this show until the Daily Telegraph article, almost over 18 months after the broadcast of the programme in question. The Telegraph Media Group is owned by Bermudan company B.UK. which is currently in receivership (what some of the Running Dogs call bankruptcy), and was in the process of being sold to RedBird, a US investment firm. British MPs, including leading dry Conserverative Col Ian Duncan Smith (former Conservative Party Leader) have raised strong objections to this sale on the grounds of RedBird's links to the Chinese Communist Party. Because of this pressure from the Conservative Party, a potential Communist infiltration of the British Conservative media seems to have been averted.

 

Who benefits most from the work of the BBC being curtailed? China of course, and its murderous leadership, using proxies (useful idiots with  BBCDS) to further its aims of domination.

34 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

The UK Government does not own the BBC

They are financed by a tax imposed and enforced by the government

and controlled/regulated  by OFCOM another government entity

they are nothing more than a government mouthpiece. 

😄

On 11/10/2025 at 4:57 AM, riclag said:

Two BBC Heads go! Scandal gets bigger.

 

BBC director general Tim Davie and News CEO Deborah Turness resign.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

 

Well, two heads are better than one.  

🤪

 

6 minutes ago, johng said:

They are financed by a tax imposed and enforced by the government

and controlled/regulated  by OFCOM another government entity

they are nothing more than a government mouthpiece. 

 

No, not true. Financed by the people. There is no compunction to pay for something you don't use.

 

Many things are regulated and controlled by the government, but when your hip joint of colostomy bag fails, who do you sue? Mostly not the government. You are more likely to be an old gipper from America (because of your support of an action to defraud the British Licence Payer), hence much of your healthcare, because of age and/or military care, is paid for by the government, funded through a tax. 

 

If the BBC is insitutionally a government mouth piece then why:

 

1. Why was it criticised during the Falklands War for divulging military secrets of use to the enemy?

2. Throughout the 80s it was a critique of the Thatcher government, not exactly toeing the government line.

3. During and post Covid-19, the BBC has uncovered numerous cases of government corruption, hardly the work of an organisations that is the mouthpiece of government

4. The UK government's policy towards the US is of harmony, which is now translating into being spineless and sychphancy. How does the BBC action further that policy.

 

My assumption is if you are not an American, you really must hail from a country with a repressive regime, like thr DPRK, because you genuinely believe that TV news must slavishly reflect the policy of the government of the day. You're not a 100m year old German, are you, pining for the good old days, and still waiting for that promised state built Beetle?

10 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

 

No, not true. Financed by the people. There is no compunction to pay for something you don't use.

 

Many things are regulated and controlled by the government, but when your hip joint of colostomy bag fails, who do you sue? Mostly not the government. You are more likely to be an old gipper from America (because of your support of an action to defraud the British Licence Payer), hence much of your healthcare, because of age and/or military care, is paid for by the government, funded through a tax. 

 

If the BBC is insitutionally a government mouth piece then why:

 

1. Why was it criticised during the Falklands War for divulging military secrets of use to the enemy?

2. Throughout the 80s it was a critique of the Thatcher government, not exactly toeing the government line.

3. During and post Covid-19, the BBC has uncovered numerous cases of government corruption, hardly the work of an organisations that is the mouthpiece of government

4. The UK government's policy towards the US is of harmony, which is now translating into being spineless and sychphancy. How does the BBC action further that policy.

 

My assumption is if you are not an American, you really must hail from a country with a repressive regime, like thr DPRK, because you genuinely believe that TV news must slavishly reflect the policy of the government of the day. You're not a 100m year old German, are you, pining for the good old days, and still waiting for that promised state built Beetle?

 

 

The BBC is a political mouthpiece - not necessarily a government one - over the years it has been more and more infected and controlled by left wing influence and management.

 

American voters in the UK with mail in votes could have been influenced by the Panorama fraud, so it could be argued that a small degree of (2024) election interference occurred and was probable. 

 

Trump can sue and could win but I don't think he's too bothered about the money.

 

 

On 11/4/2025 at 5:44 AM, riclag said:

FAFO Settlements ,Leftist News & Tech Companies Doctoring, distorting,, defaming,suspending maleficent's against  Trump .

 

ABC -15million lawsuit!  Defamation- Stephanopoulos 

CBS-16million lawsuit .60 minutes/ K Harris edit.

Youtube -24.5 lawsuit-J6 related.

Meta-  25million lawsuit-J6 related.

BBC -- Waiting $$$,?  J6 related, https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/donald-trump-jr-blasts-bbc-194706364.html

 

https://apnews.com/article/abc-trump-lawsuit-defamation-stephanopoulos-04aea8663310af39ae2a85f4c1a56d68

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paramount-trump-60-minutes-lawsuit-settlement/#:~:text=Paramount%2C President Trump reach $16,concerns%2C" the statement said.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/29/youtube-settles-with-trump-for-24-5-millon-00585805

 

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/29/nx-s1-5279570/meta-trump-settlement-facebook-instagram-suspensions#:~:text=toggle caption,Wednesday by Zuckerberg lawyer K.

 

 

 

The Story is based on 5 news stories.

 

 

 

 

Have you noticed that Trump has met with most of his success after he won the 2024 election. His record before that in such cases was dismal. In other words, he's taking advantage of the potential power of the  Presidency to extort settlements. This is the kind of thing that used to happen only in banana republics and the like. But for you, this is a cause for celebration.

8 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

American voters in the UK with mail in votes could have been influenced by the Panorama fraud, so it could be argued that a small degree of (2024) election interference occurred and was probable. 

As the Panorama broadcast in question was aired 28 October 2024, that would have been long past the date any UK based absentee ballot would have to have been submitted.

___________________________

 

The Panorama documentary in question, called Trump: A Second Chance?, was broadcast on 28 October 2024, just days before the US presidential election.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0mx28vlp4wo

 

_______________

A better hypothetical scenario might be someone especially in Florida might have seen the Panorama doco 28 OCT via their VPN when they were not otherwise watching porn and would be willing to so testify in court or via deposition.

 

 

53 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

8 hours ago, nauseus said:

American voters in the UK with mail in votes could have been influenced by the Panorama fraud, so it could be argued that a small degree of (2024) election interference occurred and was probable. 

As the Panorama broadcast in question was aired 28 October 2024, that would have been long past the date any UK based absentee ballot would have to have been submitted.

NB For Florida residents:

 

    Voted Absentee Ballot is Due

 

Received by 7pm on Election Day. A 10-day extension exists for overseas voters voting in Presidential Primaries and General Elections, provided the ballot is postmarked or dated by Election Day.

 

So the absentee voter in UK is theoretically possible if the voter waited until after OCT 28 to send in their ballot for the 05 NOV 2024 election.

13 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

 

The BBC is a political mouthpiece - not necessarily a government one - over the years it has been more and more infected and controlled by left wing influence and management.

 

American voters in the UK with mail in votes could have been influenced by the Panorama fraud, so it could be argued that a small degree of (2024) election interference occurred and was probable. 

 

Trump can sue and could win but I don't think he's too bothered about the money.

 

 

I never thought of it that way, so another words .The BBC deliberately used Fake News to potentially  influence  the Election Results, if proven in a court of law.  

 

Google ai overview:

"It is true that Donald Trump has threatened to sue the BBC for billions of dollars, claiming a documentary was "intentionally and deceitfully editing" his speech to interfere in the election; however, whether this claim is proven in a court of law is yet to be determined".

15 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

 

 

The UK Government does not own the BBC. I know for you, as a North Korean, that is difficult to fathom. The BBC exists as a Public Corporation, established by Royal Charter. You have no concept of this, as a North Korean (only North Koreans have this idea that the government owns everything)

 

The President is not taking action against the British Government, no matter what your Dear Leader is telling you.

 

Ironically, the President was completely unaware of this show until the Daily Telegraph article, almost over 18 months after the broadcast of the programme in question. The Telegraph Media Group is owned by Bermudan company B.UK. which is currently in receivership (what some of the Running Dogs call bankruptcy), and was in the process of being sold to RedBird, a US investment firm. British MPs, including leading dry Conserverative Col Ian Duncan Smith (former Conservative Party Leader) have raised strong objections to this sale on the grounds of RedBird's links to the Chinese Communist Party. Because of this pressure from the Conservative Party, a potential Communist infiltration of the British Conservative media seems to have been averted.

 

Who benefits most from the work of the BBC being curtailed? China of course, and its murderous leadership, using proxies (useful idiots with  BBCDS) to further its aims of domination.

Delusional insults that I refuse to respond to.  Why are there so many woke lefty nutters from UK on this forum - is it something in the air?? 

 

The BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) is a public corporation owned by the Government - it is not owned by shareholders, any private company, or any individual. The BBC is owned/controlled by the UK Govt and is accountable to the UK Parliament (Minister).  It was 'corporatized' to remove the public service management structures - but it is still owned by the UK Government - who fund the organisation together with the fees from licences (collected by the Govt). 

7 minutes ago, riclag said:

I never thought of it that way, so another words .The BBC deliberately used Fake News to potentially  influence  the Election Results, if proven in a court of law.  

 

Google ai overview:

"It is true that Donald Trump has threatened to sue the BBC for billions of dollars, claiming a documentary was "intentionally and deceitfully editing" his speech to interfere in the election; however, whether this claim is proven in a court of law is yet to be determined".

I think that is why two senior BBC managers were forced to resign - they are the scapegoats to alleviate the legal and political fall out that is bound to happen.  However, just like the public owned/funded ABC in Australia, they are biased to the core woke and there is only one solution - defund them from taxpayer's money - let them sink or swim in the cauldron of public opinion and support. The NPR organisation in USA has reacted to the Federal funding cuts by closing parts of its business and restructuring - it aims to continue using commercial funding and donations from donors.  The same thing should be done to the BBC and ABC and all other publicly funded media organisations - they are staffed by 80-90% left wing voters who are basically public servants. 

Why so many totally ignore the leftist MSM.   Been called out so many times for fake news.  Why I ignore most AN news threads, as MSM, being the only news allowed, as deemed trustworthy 

 

Same goes with any fact checking sites, and a total joke.  Sadly much of AI is based on that same misinformation, so one has to ask and word their questions carefully to get an accurate answer.

3 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Delusional insults that I refuse to respond to.  Why are there so many woke lefty nutters from UK on this forum - is it something in the air?? 

 

The BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) is a public corporation owned by the Government - it is not owned by shareholders, any private company, or any individual. The BBC is owned/controlled by the UK Govt and is accountable to the UK Parliament (Minister).  It was 'corporatized' to remove the public service management structures - but it is still owned by the UK Government - who fund the organisation together with the fees from licences (collected by the Govt). 

This scandal  is getting the attention it deserves  and the whole entire lefty news agencies are melting  with disdain that their boogieman Mr. Trump  has them by the short hairs .The world won't know if the buck stops with her until the world gets the fake news perps responsible for the Scandal beyond other settlement scandals in a court of law.

 

'Our journalists are not corrupt', BBC News CEO says after resignation"

 

 

3 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Why so many totally ignore the leftist MSM.   Been called out so many times for fake news.  Why I ignore most AN news threads, as MSM, being the only news allowed, as deemed trustworthy 

 

Same goes with any fact checking sites, and a total joke.  Sadly much of AI is based on that same misinformation, so one has to ask and word their questions carefully to get an accurate answer.

A+ effort KhunLA ! Its(broad pic)  mostly all designed for the lefts viewing pleasure.

A symptom of Systemic Progressivism gone viral, 

 

Narrative,driven deception , BBC perpetuated the lie that Trump 

directly incited violent insurrection on January 6 . This is worth more than  a apology, pay up BBC.

"BBC apologises to Trump over Panorama edit but refuses to pay compensation"

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c874nw4g2zzo

Redux from Attorney Brito letter to BBC:

(click to enlarge)

The optics of the BBC Scandal being scrutinized  below.

"The pattern is beginning to repeat itself in the UK. BBC chairman Samir Shah was far too self-indulgent when calling what happened merely an “error of judgment”. On her way out the door, Turness lapsed into a passive voice and doubled down on the claim that the BBC remains objective: “While mistakes have been made, I want to be absolutely clear recent allegations that BBC News is institutionally biased are wrong.”

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/bbc-following-us-establishment-media-165202678.html

2 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Redux from Attorney Brito letter to BBC:

(click to enlarge)

It's kind of funny that Trump is complaining that the BBC report cost him money. Kind of confessing that he's benefiting financially thanks to the office he currently occupies. A few examples to be found below.

Trump Organization Is Said to Be in Talks on a Saudi Government Real Estate Deal

The Trump Organization is in talks that could bring a Trump-branded property to one of Saudi Arabia’s largest government-owned real estate developments, according to the chief executive of the Saudi company leading the development.

The negotiations are the latest example of Mr. Trump blending governance and family business, particularly in Persian Gulf countries. Since returning to office, the president’s family and businesses have announced new ventures abroad involving billions of dollars, made hundreds of millions from cryptocurrency, and sold tickets to a private dinner hosted by Mr. Trump.

https://archive.ph/i0jvd#selection-707.0-726.0

4 hours ago, riclag said:

This scandal  is getting the attention it deserves  and the whole entire lefty news agencies are melting  with disdain that their boogieman Mr. Trump  has them by the short hairs .The world won't know if the buck stops with her until the world gets the fake news perps responsible for the Scandal beyond other settlement scandals in a court of law.

 

'Our journalists are not corrupt', BBC News CEO says after resignation"

 

 

Yes Indeed 🙂  They are saying it was a 'mistake' - but it was not by any means a mistake - it was what the <removed> sufferers at woke liberal media organisations have been doing since 2016. A mistake is turning left instead of turning right - what they did was a deliberate act by a woke liberal media organisation.  Exactly who did the editing - she certainly did not do it. 

From the BBC to President Trump's legal team:

 

In its letter to Trump's legal team, the BBC set out five main arguments for why it did not think it had a case to answer.

 

First it said the BBC did not have the rights to, and did not, distribute the Panorama episode on its US channels.

When the documentary was available on BBC iPlayer, it was restricted to viewers in the UK.

 

NB or those watching Panorama BBC on VPN

_________________________________

 

This is the original complaint filed by President Trump against ABC and George Stephanopoulos as prepared by the same Miami-based attorney Brito as is handling so fa the BBC issue:

 

click to enlarge

 

Hey BBC , you  also left out the part where he said Go to the Capital to "Peacefully Protest".

 

"However, it added: "While the BBC sincerely regrets the manner in which the video clip was edited, we strongly disagree there is a basis for a defamation claim."

 

https://www.erienewsnow.com/news/national/trump-says-will-sue-bbc-for-billions-over-video-edit/article_32d6ffc1-d15d-5084-b39e-8c8dbb0cd91c.html

On 11/13/2025 at 11:50 PM, riclag said:

 

This appears to be going to the litigation route. Trump Vs BBC .

“Well, I guess I have to,” Trump said on “The Ingraham Angle” Tuesday. “Why not? Because they defrauded the public, and they’ve admitted it.”

 

 

“While the BBC sincerely regrets the manner in which the video clip was edited, we strongly disagree there is a basis for a defamation claim,” the BBC spokesperson said.

 

https://nypost.com/2025/11/13/us-news/bbc-apologizes-to-trump-over-selectively-edited-jan-6-speech-but-refuses-to-pay-up-as-1b-suit-threat-looms/

If anyone knows about defrauding the public its your idol Trump. You really must be paid well to post your non stop love for a POS like trump has been proven repeatedly to be.  How's it feel to spin your moral compass in non stop circles. 

 

Using actual statements someone made is regardless of your bias does not make them false. You keep slowly back peddling though because it seems BBC isnt caving to empty threats like some.

More 'lefty' daftness from the OP, thinks all who contradict Trump are from the left of politics, how wrong he is, spotting a fruitcake in control of a country, what ever your political persuasion, is paramount....

If a vote tomorrow, Trump would become an embarrassed caddy, and the populace would breathe a sigh of relief..............🤫

Another one  who has lost touch with reality, Mr. Marks. It wasn't a mistake it was a deep dive by actors working for the BBC , into manipulation of a J6 narrative , 8 days away from the 2024 election. 

 

“Sometimes mistakes happen. When mistakes happen, we acknowledge them, we own them, we make the correction, we move on".

 

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/current-affairs/bbcs-trump-edit-scandal-holds-real-lessons-for-media-abc-boss-says/news-story/9487731f64ad18cdb59dc5ce835a5c02

19 hours ago, riclag said:

Another one  who has lost touch with reality, Mr. Marks. It wasn't a mistake it was a deep dive by actors working for the BBC , into manipulation of a J6 narrative , 8 days away from the 2024 election. 

Re: , into manipulation of a J6 narrative , 8 days away from the 2024 election.

 

In its letter to Trump's legal team, the BBC sets out five main arguments for why it does not think it has a case to answer.

 

First it says the BBC did not have the rights to, and did not, distribute the Panorama episode on its US channels.

 

When the documentary was available on BBC iPlayer, it was restricted to viewers in the UK.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c874nw4g2zzo

On 11/4/2025 at 5:44 AM, riclag said:

FAFO Settlements ,Leftist News & Tech Companies Doctoring, distorting,, defaming,suspending maleficent's against  Trump .

 

ABC -15million lawsuit!  Defamation- Stephanopoulos 

CBS-16million lawsuit .60 minutes/ K Harris edit.

Youtube -24.5 lawsuit-J6 related.

Meta-  25million lawsuit-J6 related.

BBC -- Waiting $$$,?  J6 related, https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/donald-trump-jr-blasts-bbc-194706364.html

 

https://apnews.com/article/abc-trump-lawsuit-defamation-stephanopoulos-04aea8663310af39ae2a85f4c1a56d68

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paramount-trump-60-minutes-lawsuit-settlement/#:~:text=Paramount%2C President Trump reach $16,concerns%2C" the statement said.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/29/youtube-settles-with-trump-for-24-5-millon-00585805

 

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/29/nx-s1-5279570/meta-trump-settlement-facebook-instagram-suspensions#:~:text=toggle caption,Wednesday by Zuckerberg lawyer K.

 

 

 

The Story is based on 5 news stories.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Smartmatic

 

Voting technology provider.

 

Filed a defamation lawsuit against Fox News.

Seeks $2.7 billion in damages

Case is ongoing — unlike Dominion, Smartmatic has not settled yet.

 

FAFO