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Trump has failed to bring prices down

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2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

No, that's a narrow minded way to look at it.

A low income earner can buy now instead of rent.

And pass on the home to their children.

 

Also, Trump doesn't own the universe. Many prices are out of his control. He can't just wave a magic wand. It doesn't work like that.

 

 

well he sure "waved that magic wand" from the beginning of this term IMHO and thus it has driven the costs of everything necessary in a citizen 's life to survive.

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2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

No, that's a narrow minded way to look at it.

A low income earner can buy now instead of rent.

And pass on the home to their children.

 

Also, Trump doesn't own the universe. Many prices are out of his control. He can't just wave a magic wand. It doesn't work like that.

 

 

Speaking of parallel universes, I just don't know how you could even consider the possibility that a low income earner could buy a house in America these days, it just doesn't happen anymore, many middle income earners cannot buy a home these days, so what you're saying is completely delusional, especially when you consider current interest rates, and the incredibly bloated cost of housing in the US. 

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Speaking of parallel universes, I just don't know how you could even consider the possibility that a low income earner could buy a house in America these days, it just doesn't happen anymore, many middle income earners cannot buy a home these days, so what you're saying is completely delusional, especially when you consider current interest rates, and the incredibly bloated cost of housing in the US. 

Maybe allowing another ten million illegal aliens to flood into the country the way Biden did, and like Harris would have done will drive housing costs down and wages up. 

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2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

No, that's a narrow minded way to look at it.

A low income earner can buy now instead of rent.

And pass on the home to their children.

 

Also, Trump doesn't own the universe. Many prices are out of his control. He can't just wave a magic wand. It doesn't work like that.

 

 

 

These posters (and frankly i am surprised that 007  falls in that group) ...... really just listen to the anti trump sources and repeat what they read.   Trump has only been in office a little over 4 years ,  while Democrats held the office for 12 years , continuing the destruction of affordable living for a vast number of hard working people.  Ahhh, but the welfare and food stamp and free healthcare recipients celibrate like spoiled kids when the parents are away.

The American dream is shattered.  Not because of Trump... but the subject is much too large to fit into name calling comments.   All in all... its like a fat lady that has taken decades to get to obese status ........ and then she blames everyone else .   

Corporations (blackrock buying up houses and raising the cost to the common people), corrupt politicians from both sides selling out (its really been a "uniparty"  of self serving jerks for decades ) ,  and a health system that was bad and got worse with obama's fiasco, which increased insurance company profits two fold.

 

You don't fix this kind of FAT  in a few months .   Actually... a REAL dictator is what really is needed .   Get rid of all the crooked judges and govt. entrenched blood suckers .

Stop printing money ..fake money.... that is given , yes given,  to the banking cartels.  

On and on .......  007 should stop with the caricatures and name calling.   Read a few conspiracy theory ideas that i would be glad to provide .   It really is a bit more complicated , understanding just how 
"everything got so expensive".

53 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Speaking of parallel universes, I just don't know how you could even consider the possibility that a low income earner could buy a house in America these days, it just doesn't happen anymore, many middle income earners cannot buy a home these days, so what you're saying is completely delusional, especially when you consider current interest rates, and the incredibly bloated cost of housing in the US. 

 

read that very slowly ..............  now , think ............... what caused this (and who ...not one person) ........

 

ok.  2 seconds was enough for you.   TRUMP !

 

really Mike..... what happened to you ?

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16 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

read that very slowly ..............  now , think ............... what caused this (and who ...not one person) ........

 

ok.  2 seconds was enough for you.   TRUMP !

 

really Mike..... what happened to you ?

I became deranged, I became delirious, I refused to buy into the Trump/ MAGA narrative, I started drinking the blood of babies in the basements of pizza parlors in New York, and it was all downhill from there. 

 

I realize that his defenders argue that it takes a long time to bring prices down, but Trump was the one who said prices would start coming down on day one, Trump was the one who promised to bring prescription drug prices down across the board. We are not making this stuff he was saying.

 

Sorry, but where I come from a man's word actually means something. I know in this parallel MAGA Universe it doesn't anymore, but for me and billions of others, it does. 

12 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Sorry, but where I come from a man's word actually means something.

 

Trump talks too much.

 

He should DO ... and then after the fact announce and explain what he just did. 

 

No need to announce drug prices will go down one year before he does anything, and then especially if he doesn't follow through. 

 

13 hours ago, rumak said:

You don't fix this kind of FAT  in a few months .   Actually... a REAL dictator is what really is needed .   Get rid of all the crooked judges and govt. entrenched blood suckers .

yes, in my other thread i mentioned trump is fighting against the govt entrenched bloodsuckers.

he's been fighting with judges, the federal reserve (which serves the globalists more than the average person)

 

14 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

especially when you consider current interest rates, and the incredibly bloated cost of housing in the US. 

 

trump doesnt control the interest rates.

the fed does and trump is trying to get back power so the president can control what the fed does. not clear who they answer to now.

and a 50 year mortgage makes it more possible to own a home, or at least pay most of it off and then dump the remaining mortgage off to your kids. 

15 hours ago, Tug said:

What planet are you on?a low income earner can’t afford anything a effin car costs 60k now steak 20$ a pound gas here in ca 5$ a gallon…..so nope you’re misinformed or just trying to be funny…..a lot of these high prices are a direct result of the trump tax (tariffs) + many of the tariffs are levied when Donnie has an (episode) Brazil is a good example.some president ehh??

 

Buy a used car.

Buy cheaper cuts of meat. 

 

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Just now, save the frogs said:

 

Buy a used car.

Buy cheaper cuts of meat. 

 

WHAT'S NEW? Car buyers hit with ‘sticker shock’ as used car prices reach their highest point in 18 months 

The price difference between new and used vehicles is now a fraction of the overall cost

THE American auto industry’s affordability crisis has officially bled into the one safe haven prospective purchasers had left.

The used car market has been hit so bad that, at times, it makes more sense for prospective purchasers United States to buy new instead.

https://www.the-sun.com/motors/15480325/american-used-car-prices-hit-eighteen-month-high/

 

 

12 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

WHAT'S NEW? Car buyers hit with ‘sticker shock’ as used car prices reach their highest point in 18 months 

The price difference between new and used vehicles is now a fraction of the overall cost

THE American auto industry’s affordability crisis has officially bled into the one safe haven prospective purchasers had left.

The used car market has been hit so bad that, at times, it makes more sense for prospective purchasers United States to buy new instead.

https://www.the-sun.com/motors/15480325/american-used-car-prices-hit-eighteen-month-high/

 

 

 

Come on, man.

Get your head out of the newspapers.

That's not real life.

There's used cars out there in every budget. 

There's ways to keep your spending down. 

 

Problem isn't necessarily the cost so much as losing face.

If you go to a social gathering and everyone has a new car and you're driving a jalopy, you might feel ashamed. 

It's people constantly comparing themselves and making you feel inferior if you have less is the real problem, not so much the actual monetary value of things. As most people with decent jobs will get by. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Come on, man.

Get your head out of the newspapers.

That's not real life.

There's used cars out there in every budget. 

There's ways to keep your spending down. 

 

Problem isn't necessarily the cost so much as losing face.

If you go to a social gathering and everyone has a new car and you're driving a jalopy, you might feel ashamed. 

It's people constantly comparing themselves and making you feel inferior if you have less is the real problem, not so much the actual monetary value of things. As most people with decent jobs will get by. 

 

 

Sure, You could drive a junker. Or a car that has a lot less years left in it. Either way, you're paying a lot more than you used to. And of course, for people who already buy used cars at the lower end of the scale, what do you recommend them to do? Take up jogging to work?

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It's not in the interests of the billionaire class (which Trump is a member of) to bring prices down.  A roof over your head, health care, food?  These are things that are basic human needs, but they have become so expensive that average people often can't afford the bare necessities.  I've had boom and bust cycles in my life.  But in the worst of my bust cycles when I was actually in poverty, I could get by.  I had the basics and I never asked for a penny of public assistance although I qualified. Today, I'm not poor.  But if I waded back into the US economy, I'd be broke in short-order.  Then I'd have to decide if I wanted food, or a roof over my head, or health care, or some of the other basic necessities of life.

Trump, for all of his bluster and promises, isn't delivering on anything.  He is very good at exaggeration and lies, but not so good at delivering.  And personally I believe that the US economy is beyond fixing.  Vance is now just blaming illegal immigrants, but that is just a cop out. Life is good for the upper 10% and a struggle for the rest of us.  It was never that way in my life, but it is now.  And it is getting worse.  When enough people are pushed to the edge of the economy, things are going to break.  The American Dream is now just that - naught but an unreachable dream.

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On 11/13/2025 at 4:10 AM, spidermike007 said:

In a great state of desperation seeing that he has not been able to do anything to bring prices down for Americans he's now pushing an absolutely stupid idea of a 50-year mortgage. We should call it the TMAIL" "Trump makes  Americans indebted for life plan".

 

"It will ultimately reward banks, mortgage lenders and home builders while people pay far more in interest over time and die before they ever pay off their home."

 

All a 50 year mortgage does is make people into debt-slaves.  When bankers and politicians talk about extending longer loans to people, they talk about how it will, "lower your payment."  It's utter BS.  What it does in make banks and financial organizations a ton more money.  It's a lie and always has been.  

Example:

At the current U.S. average 30-year fixed mortgage rate of 6.22% and median home price of $415,200:

  • 30-year term: Total interest is $502,210 (1.21 times the principal).
  • 50-year term: Total interest is $936,862 (2.26 times the principal).

A 50 year mortgage isn't a fix - it's a financial yoke to burden the population and suck the last remaining wealth (if they have any wealth) out of their pockets.


At the current U.S. average 30-year fixed mortgage rate of 6.22% and median home price of $415,200:

  • 30-year term: Monthly payment is $2,551 (principal and interest only).
  • 50-year term: Monthly payment is $2,255 (principal and interest only).

 

This isn't a fix, it's a dead Albatross around the neck of a public who already can't afford many of life's basic necessities.  It makes me very angry, but I live in Thailand where I have two houses and a rai of land, and a good life that I live very economically.  I save (invest) money every month. But I'm angry because corporate greed and corruptible US politicians have made debt-slaves out of the majority of the US population.  I can just imagine how Gen-Z and Gen-Alpha will eventually react when it takes 10 people throwing all of their earning into one pot in order to put a roof over their heads and feed themselves. 

And my guess?  Remember when that psychopath from the WEF said, "You'll own nothing and you will be happy."  I expect our political class will eventually come up with a solution where average American's live in Neo-federalize where the serf-class is bound to a billionaire or trillionaire lord who throws them table scraps. "Sell yourself to Musk and work 18 hour days in is plant and live in a hovel in a Musk company town."  

I can see this coming.

On 11/13/2025 at 4:22 AM, Celsius said:

Inflation is bad, but once you get immune to being reverse cultured and start getting used to how things work I can honestly say it's not bad. The country is broken, it is boring beyond belief and everything sucks, but I think inflation in Thailand is worse.

I can honestly say it's not bad. The country is broken, it is boring beyond belief and everything sucks,

 

When does it get bad?

58 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

WHAT'S NEW? Car buyers hit with ‘sticker shock’ as used car prices reach their highest point in 18 months 

The price difference between new and used vehicles is now a fraction of the overall cost

THE American auto industry’s affordability crisis...

 

NOT TO WORRY!

Trump will fix this with 15 year car loans! #MAGA

58 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

yes, in my other thread i mentioned trump is fighting against the govt entrenched bloodsuckers.

he's been fighting with judges, the federal reserve (which serves the globalists more than the average person)

 

 

THIS .... is the truth .   People just don't try to understand what "globalism"  entails .

It takes a lot of work , sorting through the mess that is called "the financial system" .

I certainly am not a scholar on that subject .   But i am good at putting 2 and 2 together:

 

"Today, Amazon is the third largest company in the world by market capitalisation, after Apple and Microsoft, with a market capitalisation of $1.7 trillion. But BlackRock, the world’s largest asset manager, controls more than $10 trillion worth of assets. One or another of the Big Three asset managers – BlackRock, Vanguard or State Street – is the largest shareholder in around 88 per cent of S&P500 companies. BlackRock alone is the largest investor in thirty-eight such companies,"   

 

look kids.... they "manage"  everything.   And if you don't believe that includes the govt. leaders and banking "institutions" ...... then , ok, just stick with Trump is the problem.

Actually ,  trying to FIX the problem is the problem !     As the trump haters fight the trump lovers....... the real "managers"  of zee world play golf and laugh at us over cocktails.

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I became deranged, I became delirious, I refused to buy into the Trump/ MAGA narrative, I started drinking the blood of babies in the basements of pizza parlors in New York, and it was all downhill from there. 

 

I realize that his defenders argue that it takes a long time to bring prices down, but Trump was the one who said prices would start coming down on day one, Trump was the one who promised to bring prescription drug prices down across the board. We are not making this stuff he was saying.

 

Sorry, but where I come from a man's word actually means something. I know in this parallel MAGA Universe it doesn't anymore, but for me and billions of others, it does. 

 

Yep... i know one guy that surely lived up to his promise :

 

"Change We Can Believe In" was the primary campaign slogan for Barack Obama's successful 2008 U.S. Presidential campaign."

 

and believe me ......... just look at the good ole usa now !   What a ***** change, indeed !

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6 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Trump talks too much.

 

He should DO ... and then after the fact announce and explain what he just did. 

 

No need to announce drug prices will go down one year before he does anything, and then especially if he doesn't follow through. 

 

You hit the nail on the head, by filling the airwaves with daily bluster, he reduces the impact of his actions, and he sets himself up for failure. Unfortunately he is simply not intelligent enough to grasp any of that. And his pathological need to make himself look great always gets in the way, and causes him to shoot himself in the foot. The only real answer to his behavior is that he's deeply insecure, he possesses a tremendous degree of self-loathing, and he needs to mask all that with constant bluster and nonsense. His schtick gets so boring. He is so boring. There's no nuance, no texture, and no variation to his theme. 

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5 hours ago, connda said:

All a 50 year mortgage does is make people into debt-slaves.  When bankers and politicians talk about extending longer loans to people, they talk about how it will, "lower your payment."  It's utter BS.  What it does in make banks and financial organizations a ton more money.  It's a lie and always has been.  

Example:

At the current U.S. average 30-year fixed mortgage rate of 6.22% and median home price of $415,200:

  • 30-year term: Total interest is $502,210 (1.21 times the principal).
  • 50-year term: Total interest is $936,862 (2.26 times the principal).

A 50 year mortgage isn't a fix - it's a financial yoke to burden the population and suck the last remaining wealth (if they have any wealth) out of their pockets.


At the current U.S. average 30-year fixed mortgage rate of 6.22% and median home price of $415,200:

  • 30-year term: Monthly payment is $2,551 (principal and interest only).
  • 50-year term: Monthly payment is $2,255 (principal and interest only).

 

This isn't a fix, it's a dead Albatross around the neck of a public who already can't afford many of life's basic necessities.  It makes me very angry, but I live in Thailand where I have two houses and a rai of land, and a good life that I live very economically.  I save (invest) money every month. But I'm angry because corporate greed and corruptible US politicians have made debt-slaves out of the majority of the US population.  I can just imagine how Gen-Z and Gen-Alpha will eventually react when it takes 10 people throwing all of their earning into one pot in order to put a roof over their heads and feed themselves. 

And my guess?  Remember when that psychopath from the WEF said, "You'll own nothing and you will be happy."  I expect our political class will eventually come up with a solution where average American's live in Neo-federalize where the serf-class is bound to a billionaire or trillionaire lord who throws them table scraps. "Sell yourself to Musk and work 18 hour days in is plant and live in a hovel in a Musk company town."  

I can see this coming.

That is absolutely correct, the smartest people I know only do 15-year mortgages, yes the payments are a bit higher but about 90% of your payment goes to principal, whereas with a 30-year mortgage about 90% goes to interest. With a 50 year mortgage probably closer to 95% would go to interest and it would utterly cripple the average family. 

Promises made, promises kept!

 

 

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On 11/13/2025 at 4:10 AM, spidermike007 said:

Trump came into office screaming about inflation which admittedly was very high, and he has done very little to bring prices down.

He's less than 25% through his term, you talk, banaly, as though it's over already.  Three more years to go before you can say that he hasn't achieved what he wanted.

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10 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Inflation is down, yes?

Close. Except that. Inflation has actually gone up.

6 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Sure, You could drive a junker. Or a car that has a lot less years left in it. Either way, you're paying a lot more than you used to. And of course, for people who already buy used cars at the lower end of the scale, what do you recommend them to do? Take up jogging to work?

 

Paying a lot more than you used to ----- it's all just comparison. Why do you expect everything to stay the same forever and ever? There are too many complex issues affecting the price of things. It's not reasonable to expect things to stay the same forever.

 

If people cannot even afford a junker, then they would need to work in a city with some decent public transit. Realistically, junkers are affordable for most people though or many people do take public transit. I think you're exaggerating to make Trump look bad.

 

On 11/13/2025 at 4:10 AM, spidermike007 said:

he has not been able to do anything to bring prices down for Americans he's now pushing an absolutely stupid idea of a 50-year mortgage. We should call it the TMAIL" "Trump makes  Americans indebted for life plan".

1.  It was a suggestion, that's all.

2.  It wouldn't be mandatory and the only people making Americans "indebted for life" would be those who chose that route.

You know that once a mortgage is paid off, there is no indebtedness, yes, and many would be quids in at the end of a mortgage term?

 

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11 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Also, Trump doesn't own the universe. Many prices are out of his control. He can't just wave a magic wand. It doesn't work like that.

Of course, we know that, but it's not what Trump promised.

 

We can at least agree that Trump was making BS promises during his campaign! 🙂

22 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Paying a lot more than you used to ----- it's all just comparison. Why do you expect everything to stay the same forever and ever? There are too many complex issues affecting the price of things. It's not reasonable to expect things to stay the same forever.

 

If people cannot even afford a junker, then they would need to work in a city with some decent public transit. Realistically, junkers are affordable for most people though or many people do take public transit. I think you're exaggerating to make Trump look bad.

 

I don't think you understand inflation at all. It's not about inflation per se, it's about the rate of inflation. And are you suggesting that people who can't afford their own private transportation, move to the cities? Do you have a clue as to how much rents have risen? Do you believe that the widespread discontent about the cost of living among the middle class means that they are clueless?

22 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

1.  It was a suggestion, that's all.

2.  It wouldn't be mandatory and the only people making Americans "indebted for life" would be those who chose that route.

You know that once a mortgage is paid off, there is no indebtedness, yes, and many would be quids in at the end of a mortgage term?

 

Given how little benefit it would offer, and how few people would likely choose such a plan, it's best to characterize that suggestion as a very stupid one.

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