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American man discovered cuffed and dead in Na Jomtien hotel

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2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Possible scenario.

Make sure you find a hooker who seems 100% trustworthy before letting her handcuff you for kinky games?

 

If he was handcuffed by force, there would be bruises or scratches on his body. Check DNA on his fingernails .. 

 

 

 

The Thai authorities will get to the bottom of it. Perhaps I'll be eating crow. 

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  • Yep. Obvious suicide. Hands cuffed behind own back and plastic bag tied over the head is a very popular form of suicide. What a ridiculous statement.

  • Indeed he did young Grasshopper!  

  • Actually easy to do. Put bag on then cuffs. Cuffs stop u changing mind.

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1 minute ago, worgeordie said:

tidy cereal killer

 

I could murder a bowl of cornflakes right now. 

2 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

What is the picture that's in this report , looks like something in a cardboard box.

When the Police report no disturbance at the scene , little do they know it's the tidy cereal killer .

regards worgeordie

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7 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

If he was handcuffed by force, there would be bruises or scratches on his body. Check DNA on his fingernails .. 

From the OP...

"The body has been sent to the forensic institute for an autopsy to accurately determine the cause of death".

3 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

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Obviously , just put that in there see anyone awake , but you were too slow , flaming dragon beat you,

 

regards worgeordie 

Just now, worgeordie said:

Obviously , just put that in there see anyone awake , but you were too slow , flaming dragon beat you,

 

regards worgeordie 

Of course u did

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It matters?

As I wrote today around 2 pm I was nearby B2 Jomtien and saw plenty of police officers, immigration officers, two BMW smart car and an ambulance drive into the hotel parking. Just coincidence, maybe.

5 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

Didn't a famous Hollywood actor meet a similar fate at a Bangkok Hotel (closet)?

 

David Carradine in NaLert I think it was. He hanged himself and died through self asphyxiation... dressed in women's lingerie. Supposedly some trannies had left his room earlier

5 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

Didn't a famous Hollywood actor meet a similar fate at a Bangkok Hotel (closet)?

Yes, some sexual fantasy with ladyboys gone wrong.

The first thing I would do if I were investigating this unusual death would be to find out if he knew the Clintons. But then again, if they had been involved, he would have shot himself before putting the handcuffs on.

Shades of David Carradine. 

13 hours ago, Ohyesuare said:

 

David Carradine via auto-erotic asphyxiation. Not really what this seems like for various reasons from the article, mostly him being clothed, but you never know.

Same with INXS front man Michael Hutchence

13 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Yep. Obvious suicide. Hands cuffed behind own back and plastic bag tied over the head is a very popular form of suicide. What a ridiculous statement.

Yes, it did seem they were very anxious to call it a suicide and move on. 

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14 hours ago, Ohyesuare said:

 

David Carradine via auto-erotic asphyxiation. Not really what this seems like for various reasons from the article, mostly him being clothed, but you never know.

Auto-erotic asphyxiation does not work if your hands are cuffed behind you. Clothed or unclothed. 

10 minutes ago, thesetat said:

Auto-erotic asphyxiation does not work if your hands are cuffed behind you. Clothed or unclothed. 

 

David's hands were tied together above his head.... how does this differ from hands cuffed?

6 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

David's hands were tied together above his head.... how does this differ from hands cuffed?

Who tied his hands? Hmm

5 minutes ago, thesetat said:

Who tied his hands? Hmm

Likely one of the ladyboys he was with.

 

Tieing the hands together alone is infinetely harder that slapping on some cuffs so not seeing the angle you are working to be honest.

A bag over his head and handcuffs BEHIND his back makes them conclude self harm?  🤔

That happened on Koh Tao, French guy hung himself with his hand tied behind his back, suicide  

15 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

Didn't a famous Hollywood actor meet a similar fate at a Bangkok Hotel (closet)?

Yes a ballet dancer masquerading as a kung Fu master. 

16 hours ago, Will Iam Not said:

As did the INXS singer Hutchens.

 

As did a couple of HHH's. Very sad. 😞

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On a visit to Thailand many moons ago, I read an article in one of the major BKK newspapers about a dead foreigner. The man was found bound, hands and feet behind his back, to a post of an ocean dock, under water. The line in the article that stuck out was:

 

"Police have yet to rule out foul play".

Seems for Thai police the first and main  version is that this is a ‘self inflicted harm’…

So high intellect!

They don’t take into account that the good and normal suicide usually also requires not only to cuff own hands behind the back and to cover own head with a black plastic bag but also to cuff own legs!From backside!

Please  don’t forget to consider this.

 

2 minutes ago, leverito said:

Seems for Thai police the first and main  version is that this is a ‘self inflicted harm’…

 

 

 

Less paperwork.

1 hour ago, Bagwain said:

Yes a ballet dancer masquerading as a kung Fu master. 

He was amazing in Kill Bill ! RIP

15 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

When the RTP makes a statement like that they're revealing to the world both a level of staggering incompetence, and the fact that they're bought and paid for by the government and the tourism bureau. 

 

Never be fooled into thinking that the RTP are a real police department, they are franchisees, and they are a revenue collection agency who do very little law enforcement. 

 

Until you need them and then you will find they are surprisingly efficient. 

 

Just pay the 500B driving tax and get on with life.

 

You can always waste yours and their time by going to court.

The big question for me was the American suffering from terminal illness and in constannt pain. If yes, I would lean towards suicide. We had a similar situation in our building but the individual left a suicide letter in clear view. 

18 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

Didn't a famous Hollywood actor meet a similar fate at a Bangkok Hotel (closet)?

 

18 hours ago, Crossy said:

 

Indeed he did young Grasshopper!

 

 

NO! Two different  deaths. The Bangkok case was attributed to auto erotic asphyxiation.  Bangkok body was discovered in a closet, with a cord around his neck and genitals. This is not the case with the Jomtien death. Too many details are missing. People do not commit suicide like this, particularly 69 year old males. The scenario suggests third party involvement, and I will not be surprised if this was a settling of accounts or a robbery.

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17 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Yep. Obvious suicide. Hands cuffed behind own back and plastic bag tied over the head is a very popular form of suicide. What a ridiculous statement.

 

As odd as it may seem, this actually was a somewhat popular form of suicide among American retirees here about 25 years ago. One guy did it, and then a couple of others copied the method over the next few years - they were all loosely acquainted through the bar scene. Those guys all left suicide notes, though, if I recall.

 

For those of you who are having trouble picturing how this works, the person will lock the cuffs over one wrist, put the bag over the head and wrap duct tape around the neck, and then reach behind and cuff the other wrist before suffocation panic kicks in. Not a nice way to go, but effective.

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