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Once again an mRNA jab tragedy for healthy man

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7 hours ago, xylophone said:

I wonder if "Impulse" knows that the vaccines are NOT MANDATORY!! LOL

 

They were for millions of people, many of who lost their jobs because they refused them.  I got mine because I wasn't allowed into facilities to help my brother after his heart transplant unless I was vaccinated.  I'd call that "mandatory".  (Edit:  And I'd give almost anything to roll back time and undo the damage that my 2nd mandatory Pfizer did to my health.)

 

Or don't you remember the Canadian trucker protests, or all the US military members, health care workers, corporate employees and gub'ment workers who were actually fired for refusing to be genetic guinea pigs?

 

And had the so called "anti-vaxxers" not pushed back as hard, you'd be pulling out your vaccine passport every time you want to get on a plane.   That was in the works.

 

So who is spreading disinformation?

 

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  • cjinchiangrai
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    The vaccines saved many millions of lives. You story does not provide any evidence that the vaccine was responsible for this guys death.

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    Summary: A 65‑year‑old man…   - Had major surgery to remove a stomach cancer and six months of chemotherapy - Had open‑heart surgery a two months before his death - Ultimately died

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    The Lord's Prayer of the vaccine religion. To be recited every day before bedtime.

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On 12/6/2025 at 11:57 AM, cjinchiangrai said:

The vaccines saved many millions of lives. You story does not provide any evidence that the vaccine was responsible for this guys death.

 

Do you have any evidence that an mRNA saved a life? 

2 minutes ago, irritated said:

 

Do you have any evidence that an mRNA saved a life? 

The people on TV said so...so it must be true.

 

The other way we know its true is they went back in a time machine 

but in that time line they did not inject experimental concoctions into an unwitting population....lucky the few elite survivers had acces to the time machine and set things straight again...

Vaccines Ahmen !  😋

Would anyone be able to show me a peer-reviewed, double-blind, placebo-controlled study that claims the Covid Jab is safe? I want to read it. 

45 minutes ago, irritated said:

Would anyone be able to show me a peer-reviewed, double-blind, placebo-controlled study that claims the Covid Jab is safe? I want to read it. 

I'd like to read one too.

 

I've been involved in one clinical trial, and TBH, all seemed honest and fair. However, I wasn't privy to the end data. Not that I wanted to see it. But one of the problems surrounding trials, is that it's difficult to actually get a handle on what's actually gone on. Especially the trials in second and third world countries.

 

IMO, much of the trial data is fudged. And the 3 letter agencies, that supposed to ensure drugs are safe to market, only scan the trial paperwork. Now and again there is someone who says; "Hold on there. I don't believe this data." As was the case with Dr Lesley Kelsey, in the US, with Thalidomide. Now! What did she see that Europe and her fellow FDA doctors didn't?

 

There are no proper controls at all in labs where vaccines are tested. This goes back to 1954. There are also no controls regarding finding elusive viruses. They however, would be a non-starters, because in a sane world, they have never been found to exist.

9 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I'd like to read one too.

 

I've been involved in one clinical trial, and TBH, all seemed honest and fair. However, I wasn't privy to the end data. Not that I wanted to see it. But one of the problems surrounding trials, is that it's difficult to actually get a handle on what's actually gone on. Especially the trials in second and third world countries.

 

IMO, much of the trial data is fudged. And the 3 letter agencies, that supposed to ensure drugs are safe to market, only scan the trail paperwork. Now and againthere is someone who says; "Hold on there. I don't believe this data." as was the case with Dr Lesley Kelsey, in the US, with Thalidomide. Now! What did she see that Europe and her fellow FDA doctors didn't?

 

There are no proper controls at all in labs where vaccines are tested. This goes back to 1954. There are also no controls regarding finding elusive viruses. They however, would be a non-starters, because in a sane world, they have never been found to exist.

The only testing done at the admission of a Pfizer top exec testifying before the EU was with 12 mice. 

 

Yes, 12 mice. In the same testimony the Pfizer exec also admitted that the mRNA vaccine did not stop transmission.

 

I didn't put that ____________ shot in my body. I didn't give it to my son. 

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These people need to go to prison and stand trial under Nuremberg. The first Nuremberg trials put doctors to death for what they did. I'm ok with that, let's do it right and do it again. 

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1 hour ago, irritated said:

 

Do you have any evidence that an mRNA saved a life? 

Look at late covid hospitalization and death statistics, almost exclusively unvaccinated.

Just now, cjinchiangrai said:

Look at late covid hospitalization and death statistics, almost exclusively unvaccinated.

 

This is your opinion. State a fact. Quote a source. 

1 minute ago, irritated said:

 

This is your opinion. State a fact. Quote a source. 

I am not wasting my time researching the obvious for the deliberately obtuse. 

5 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Look at late covid hospitalization and death statistics, almost exclusively unvaccinated.

No. You brought it up, you look at it, and quote.  Should I prove your point? Why? You prove it.  I don't think you can prove it.  Please prove me wrong. 

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12 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

I am not wasting my time researching the obvious for the deliberately obtuse. 

But you have no problem continually wasting your (and our) time with your one-liner biased opinions on jab safety/effectiveness and parroting the mainstream media that these shots 'saved millions of lives'.  

20 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Look at late covid hospitalization and death statistics, almost exclusively unvaccinated.


LOL.   They had to stop collecting data when you mudbloods started filling up the hospital wards.

 

Have you considered getting that growth on your neck looked at?  I’m concerned about your health and it’s not very nice to look at.

9 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

But you have no problem continually wasting your (and our) time with your one-liner biased opinions on jab safety/effectiveness and parroting the mainstream media that these shots 'saved millions of lives'.  

But, your many lines are total cr@p................😬

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Some interesting info re Vaccinations and then I'm out of this thread for anti-vax nut jobs.....

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Irreversible damage': What a forensic pathologist sees in bodies of Covid patients

The SARS-CoV-2 virus has a predilection to attack endothelial cells, the pavers of the blood vessel highways that feed all your organs. In the same way that damaged roads cause traffic backups and crashes, damaged endothelial cells cause blood clots, which then cause strokes and heart attacks.

We've always known that Covid-19 attacks the lungs and heart, but we're now also learning that the virus targeting blood vessels is causing long-term, irreversible damage to the whole body.

Pathologists like me see it as blood clots and fatal damage in the organs of patients who have died after having recovered from Covid. When we put their brain tissue under the microscope, we find inflammatory cells surrounding blood vessels, and the dead nerve cells that result.

There are sickly pale white scars in the heart muscle, which interrupt signal delivery in its electrical system. In the lungs, tissue that should be empty spaces ready to fill with air are incompletely repaired.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/irreversible-damage-what-a-forensic-pathologist-sees-in-bodies-of-covid-patients/ACGWN36Y5ANWDZKZV2WUUIG6MI/

 

MYTH: The COVID vaccines were not rigorously tested, which is why they have only emergency authorization approval and not full Food and Drug Administration approval. (Update: Pfizer’s vaccine received full FDA approval on August 19)

FACT: “Vaccine developers didn’t skip any testing steps, but conducted some of the steps on an overlapping schedule to gather data faster.”—Johns Hopkins Medicine

MYTH: The technology used to create the COVID vaccines is too new to be safe.

FACT: The technology used, called messenger RNA, or mRNA, is not new. Research on it actually began in the early 1990s, and two diseases that are very close to COVID—SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) in 2003, and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome)—helped bring the mRNA vaccine development to present day use.—Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

AND plenty more here………https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/myths-vs-facts-covid-19-vaccine/

 

and finally.....

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One more which shows promise for the future....

Clinical advances of mRNA vaccines for cancer immunotherapy

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39798545/

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32 minutes ago, transam said:

But, your many lines are total cr@p................😬

The “beauty” of this worldwide slaughter is that pro-vaxxers bedridden, injured for life or asking for euthanasia to stop their suffering still believe in the “safe and effective” narrative murmuring “thanks God, without the vax my health would have been much worse”.

1 hour ago, cjinchiangrai said:

I am not wasting my time researching the obvious for the deliberately obtuse. 

Agree......and once posters mention "Fauci and Bill Gates" as being behind Covid, you know they are on a slippery slope to stupidity.

On 12/6/2025 at 11:57 AM, cjinchiangrai said:

The vaccines saved many millions of lives. You story does not provide any evidence that the vaccine was responsible for this guys death.

 

How long after the jab should I be worried. almost 5 years now.

3 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

 

How long after the jab should I be worried. almost 5 years now.

Up to you but I would suggest chasing other maladies first.

5 hours ago, impulse said:

They were for millions of people, many of who lost their jobs because they refused them.  I got mine because I wasn't allowed into facilities to help my brother after his heart transplant unless I was vaccinated.  I'd call that "mandatory".

 

It is. It is the textbook definition of coercion.

 

5 hours ago, impulse said:

(Edit:  And I'd give almost anything to roll back time and undo the damage that my 2nd mandatory Pfizer did to my health.)

 

Have any of the pro-jabbers of this forum ever expressed empathy for you?

 

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4 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

I am not wasting my time researching the obvious for the deliberately obtuse. 

 

The authorities stopped reporting this data in mid-2023, so 2.5 years later, perhaps it is time to have that lightbulb moment and realise this fallacy can't be pushed anymore?

 

UK example:

 

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https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland

3 hours ago, Nid_Noi said:

The “beauty” of this worldwide slaughter is that pro-vaxxers bedridden, injured for life or asking for euthanasia to stop their suffering still believe in the “safe and effective” narrative murmuring “thanks God, without the vax my health would have been much worse”.

 

Ego, pride and denial will drive them to double down without a hint of rationality. It reminds me of people who get scammed, but continue to give money to their scammer, even after the scam is exposed.

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1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

See you soon! You guys keep coming back, I guess you are subconsciously drawn to the truth.

 

Nope - its not that at all....

 

Its being subconsciously drawn to countering clear fallacy and fools pushing a dangerous agenda with memes, out of context quotes, copy any paste from fringe websites....

 

... And your delusion states: consciously drawn to the truth - which highlights what a distorted view you have of things around you.

14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

pushing a dangerous agenda

 

The only thing it is dangerous to is the viability of the beliefs you subscribe to.

 

15 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Its being subconsciously drawn to countering clear fallacy and fools pushing a dangerous agenda with memes, out of context quotes, copy any paste from fringe websites....

 

Saying something doesn't make it real. Today, I have posted an official UK government statement, with the source to the UK's government website, to recontextualise a false statement made by another member (I am sure you were just about to correct said member and statement yourself, given your dedication to truth, honesty and accuracy…).

12 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:
30 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

pushing a dangerous agenda

 

The only thing it is dangerous to is the viability of the beliefs you subscribe to.

 

No - the danger lies in how this misinformation anti-vaxxers pedal is consumed by people already inclined to distrust authority. It reinforces an anti-establishment narrative by offering a neatly cherry-picked headline while obscuring the actual substance, distorting a tiny slice of information into something designed to provoke cynicism rather than understanding.

 

It’s dangerous in precisely the same way as campaigning against seat-belts simply because a few unlucky individuals were once trapped by theirs after a crash. Elevating rare anomalies into sweeping conclusions is reckless, it misleads those most vulnerable to such narratives.

 
12 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:
30 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Its being subconsciously drawn to countering clear fallacy and fools pushing a dangerous agenda with memes, out of context quotes, copy any paste from fringe websites....

 

Saying something doesn't make it real. Today, I have posted an official UK government statement, with the source to the UK's government website, to recontextualise a false statement made by another member (I am sure you were just about to correct said member and statement yourself, given your dedication to truth, honesty and accuracy…).

 

None of which makes your anti-vaccine stance any less dangerous or misleading.

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45 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

The authorities stopped reporting this data in mid-2023, so 2.5 years later, perhaps it is time to have that lightbulb moment and realise this fallacy can't be pushed anymore?

 

UK example:

 

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https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland

Two weeks after the notice below was posted, the UK went into lockdown.

 

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14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

No - the danger lies in how this misinformation anti-vaxxers pedal is consumed by people already inclined to distrust authority. It reinforces an anti-establishment narrative by offering a neatly cherry-picked headline while obscuring the actual substance, distorting a tiny slice of information into something designed to provoke cynicism rather than understanding.

 

It’s dangerous in precisely the same way as campaigning against seat-belts simply because a few unlucky individuals were once trapped by theirs after a crash. Elevating rare anomalies into sweeping conclusions is reckless, it misleads those most vulnerable to such narratives.

 

 

None of which makes your anti-vaccine stance any less dangerous or misleading.

 

Always assuming people are dumb and need to be 'told the right thing for their own good'… by the 'smarter ones', of course. 

15 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Always assuming people are dumb and need to be 'told the right thing for their own good'… by the 'smarter ones', of course. 

 

Well, half the population is - by definition - below average intelligence, and the bell curve is hardly helped by the constant distortion caused by anti-vaxx rhetoric.

 

What’s remarkable is how comfortably some people let fringe sites and misinformation mills dictate their worldview. First it’s “vaccines don’t work”, then it morphs into “viruses don’t exist” - as if ignorance becomes more profound the further you wander from reality.

 

 

On 12/8/2025 at 9:31 AM, xylophone said:

MYTH: The COVID vaccines were not rigorously tested, which is why they have only emergency authorization approval and not full Food and Drug Administration approval. (Update: Pfizer’s vaccine received full FDA approval on August 19)

FACT: “Vaccine developers didn’t skip any testing steps, but conducted some of the steps on an overlapping schedule to gather data faster.”—Johns Hopkins Medicine

MYTH: The technology used to create the COVID vaccines is too new to be safe.

FACT: The technology used, called messenger RNA, or mRNA, is not new. Research on it actually began in the early 1990s, and two diseases that are very close to COVID—SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) in 2003, and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome)—helped bring the mRNA vaccine development to present day use.—Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Something which has just come to mind after I had posted about the myths surrounding mRNA is the fact that Alexander Fleming, after "discovering" penicillin, did have some success at testing this new "antibiotic", but it was a few years later that he realized that this substance possessed powerful antibacterial properties, capable of destroying harmful microbes without harming human cells.


However, the path from his initial observation to a usable medicine was not immediate. Although Fleming published his findings, he struggled to purify and stabilize the substance for mass production and clinical use. It wasn't until the work of scientists Howard Florey and Ernst Chain much later that Penicillin was successfully refined and developed into the stable, life-saving drug we know today.

 

Fleming discovered the Penicillin mold in 1928 and it wasn’t until 1940/41 that it was being used to treat soldiers in WW2 after tests on animals proved successful.

 

So this penicillin took some 12 years to become a success, and now mRNA has taken about the same time to prove that it is successful and could well end up to be a major breakthrough in treating cancers and other serious illnesses/diseases.
 

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