1 minute ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

Utter nonsense. 

 

Go and live in US cities with school gun shootings, legalised guns if you really think London is dystopia.

 

London murder rate is even lower than Bangkok, that we hold up as being very safe. 

 

London crime stats have all gone down, except a shop lifting pandemic (which the previous government stop penalising - not Sadiq Khan). 

 

The city is being targetted on social media, clearly. Yet without doubt it is one of the greatest cities in the world. 

 

 

Utter nonsense?

That's rich coming from a Khan apologist peddling half-truths and deflection.

Yeah, U.S. cities have gun horrors, but that's no shield for London's knife-crime plague under Khan – 86% surge since 2016, with 14,000+ incidents in 2023-24.

Bangkok's "safer"? Bull – its homicide rate hit 2.6/100k in 2024, while London's 2024 murders clocked ~1.2/100k (102 killings in 9.8M pop), so if anything, that proves London edges out on murders – but ignores the non-lethal violence exploding under Khan

. "All stats down except shoplifting"? Lie – total crimes jumped 18% to 1.15M in 2024/25, violent offences up to 256K (from 252K), theft from person +23.5%, robbery +8.7%. Shoplifting's 54% explosion (89K cases, +17.5% YoY)?

Blame Tory policy all you want – the £200 threshold deprioritized it in 2014, but Khan's Met has botched enforcement, logging record assaults on retail workers (12% of shops hit, 100 violent incidents/day).

Social media "targeting"? Cry me a river – it's grassroots rage from Londoners sick of 132.6 crimes/1K people (up from 105.8), Met in "special measures" for dysfunction, and housing stalled at 1.1K starts Q1 2025 vs. 88K target. Greatest city? Sure, for tourists dodging pickpockets – but for residents, Khan's a 27% approval flop amid the decay. Fix the knives, not the narrative.

4 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

"strategically concentrating their votes in the seat of power." Seriously, listen to yourself.

 

I think it's naive to believe that there's some organic or natural reason they're concentrated as a viable voting block in probably the most expensive part of the UK to live.  Just like it would be naive to think that there's an organic and natural reason that Somalis form a significant voting block in one of the coldest states in the USA.

 

It's all by design.

 

On 12/10/2025 at 12:33 PM, NorthernRyland said:

 

"good folks of the UK" didn't vote for him. They imported a new voting bloc of foreigners that voted for their own ethnic interests.

Does UK allow non-citizens to vote?

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   My sublime point was that how many Londoners you know and what they do is rather insignificant .

   Out of 9 million Londoners  , you know perhaps  40 ?

40 people out of 9 million is hardly  comprehensive survey of the groups opinion 

Correct. But the voters' votes are a pretty comprehensive survey of Londoners' opinions, no?

1 hour ago, mikeymike100 said:

 

 

Utter nonsense?

That's rich coming from a Khan apologist peddling half-truths and deflection.

Yeah, U.S. cities have gun horrors, but that's no shield for London's knife-crime plague under Khan – 86% surge since 2016, with 14,000+ incidents in 2023-24.

Bangkok's "safer"? Bull – its homicide rate hit 2.6/100k in 2024, while London's 2024 murders clocked ~1.2/100k (102 killings in 9.8M pop), so if anything, that proves London edges out on murders – but ignores the non-lethal violence exploding under Khan

. "All stats down except shoplifting"? Lie – total crimes jumped 18% to 1.15M in 2024/25, violent offences up to 256K (from 252K), theft from person +23.5%, robbery +8.7%. Shoplifting's 54% explosion (89K cases, +17.5% YoY)?

Blame Tory policy all you want – the £200 threshold deprioritized it in 2014, but Khan's Met has botched enforcement, logging record assaults on retail workers (12% of shops hit, 100 violent incidents/day).

Social media "targeting"? Cry me a river – it's grassroots rage from Londoners sick of 132.6 crimes/1K people (up from 105.8), Met in "special measures" for dysfunction, and housing stalled at 1.1K starts Q1 2025 vs. 88K target. Greatest city? Sure, for tourists dodging pickpockets – but for residents, Khan's a 27% approval flop amid the decay. Fix the knives, not the narrative.

More random "stats" with a source. Again. From a guy in Chicago.

Plenty of stats on how London has improved under Khan - I could also produce a random, source free, list. But Londoners keep voting for him, that is all we need to know and that is all that is important.

20 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

More random "stats" with a source. Again. From a guy in Chicago.

Plenty of stats on how London has improved under Khan - I could also produce a random, source free, list. But Londoners keep voting for him, that is all we need to know and that is all that is important.

Well if you would share the stats on how London has improved, we can discuss.

 

2 hours ago, Peabody said:

Does UK allow non-citizens to vote?

 

42 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

In other words, you don't know?

11 minutes ago, Peabody said:

In other words, you don't know?

We really need to get our heads around this. Simply giving a person a piece of paper saying they're a citizen is not a high enough bar. Those muslims will never integrate and will forever be a force working against you. They've already made claim to the capital city and created a new category of non-English people called "Londoners". The absolute least you can do is undermine their claim to citizenship. They are paper citizens, frauds and invaders.

On 12/10/2025 at 5:43 AM, connda said:

For all of the hyperbole about the UK becoming Islam, this graphic from 2022 pretty well shoots down the trope that Great Britain is becoming Islamic.  However, with that said, wouldn't it just be a hoot if Islamic Londoners were able to have the City of London submit to Sharia Law.   

https://vividmaps.com/religion-in-the-united-kingdom-and-ireland/

 

An awful lot of Tories would get their hands chopped off.

6 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

We really need to get our heads around this. Simply giving a person a piece of paper saying they're a citizen is not a high enough bar. Those muslims will never integrate and will forever be a force working against you. They've already made claim to the capital city and created a new category of non-English people called "Londoners". The absolute least you can do is undermine their claim to citizenship. They are paper citizens, frauds and invaders.

What the hell are you talking about? "Those Muslims" have "laid claim to the capital city"??

It really really bothers you that there's a Muslim mayor doesn't it. It really does. Sorry treacle, Londoners like him.

Where do you live?

20 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

...Simply giving a person a piece of paper saying they're a citizen is not a high enough bar. ...They are paper citizens...

What's a non-paper citizen? 

 

On 12/11/2025 at 4:56 PM, Peabody said:

Does UK allow non-citizens to vote?

I see you are still ignorant on this basic fact. Yes or no?

Correct me if I am wrong , but Sadiq Khan is hardly an Islamist or an Islamist sympathiser. For example, Ilhan Omar is quite an Islamist and she borders on being an anti-Semite (and according to many, she is one) .

 

And, I highly doubt he would have been elected for office more than once, if he had been (or had been perceived by many as) an Islamist.

17 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

What the hell are you talking about? "Those Muslims" have "laid claim to the capital city"??

It really really bothers you that there's a Muslim mayor doesn't it. It really does. Sorry treacle, Londoners like him.

Where do you live?

 

live in Thailand of course that's why I'm posting here.

3 hours ago, JemJem said:

Correct me if I am wrong , but Sadiq Khan is hardly an Islamist or an Islamist sympathiser. For example, Ilhan Omar is quite an Islamist and she borders on being an anti-Semite (and according to many, she is one) .

 

And, I highly doubt he would have been elected for office more than once, if he had been (or had been perceived by many as) an Islamist.

He's not now because he can't afford to be. Just a wait a little longer and their culture will start to assert itself. Imagine when the British are 10% of the population of London (which will 100% happen faster then you think). Islam will be the dominant religion and they will be the majority of the population. It's already baked in at this point.

On 12/11/2025 at 8:46 PM, NorthernRyland said:

We really need to get our heads around this. Simply giving a person a piece of paper saying they're a citizen is not a high enough bar. Those muslims will never integrate and will forever be a force working against you. They've already made claim to the capital city and created a new category of non-English people called "Londoners". The absolute least you can do is undermine their claim to citizenship. They are paper citizens, frauds and invaders.

So, you still haven't found the answer to my question: "Does UK allow non-citizens to vote?"

What does THE LAW say about making people citizens and giving them a piece of paper to show that?

2 minutes ago, Peabody said:

So, you still haven't found the answer to my question: "Does UK allow non-citizens to vote?"

What does THE LAW say about making people citizens and giving them a piece of paper to show that?

 

I know what you're saying. It's all totally legal. Do you understand my point? Paper citizen and real citizen are not the same and this is illegitimate. This moment is an ahistorical blip in time and will be reversed eventually.

8 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

I know what you're saying. It's all totally legal. Do you understand my point? Paper citizen and real citizen are not the same and this is illegitimate. This moment is an ahistorical blip in time and will be reversed eventually.

??

Change the law.

On 12/11/2025 at 9:09 AM, mikeymike100 said:

 

 

Utter nonsense?

That's rich coming from a Khan apologist peddling half-truths and deflection.

Yeah, U.S. cities have gun horrors, but that's no shield for London's knife-crime plague under Khan – 86% surge since 2016, with 14,000+ incidents in 2023-24.

Bangkok's "safer"? Bull – its homicide rate hit 2.6/100k in 2024, while London's 2024 murders clocked ~1.2/100k (102 killings in 9.8M pop), so if anything, that proves London edges out on murders – but ignores the non-lethal violence exploding under Khan

. "All stats down except shoplifting"? Lie – total crimes jumped 18% to 1.15M in 2024/25, violent offences up to 256K (from 252K), theft from person +23.5%, robbery +8.7%. Shoplifting's 54% explosion (89K cases, +17.5% YoY)?

Blame Tory policy all you want – the £200 threshold deprioritized it in 2014, but Khan's Met has botched enforcement, logging record assaults on retail workers (12% of shops hit, 100 violent incidents/day).

Social media "targeting"? Cry me a river – it's grassroots rage from Londoners sick of 132.6 crimes/1K people (up from 105.8), Met in "special measures" for dysfunction, and housing stalled at 1.1K starts Q1 2025 vs. 88K target. Greatest city? Sure, for tourists dodging pickpockets – but for residents, Khan's a 27% approval flop amid the decay. Fix the knives, not the narrative.

 

 

Khan has no control over the law, sentencing guidlines, prisons, etc .... he merely organises the policing .

 

To put the blame on him on knife crime is ridiculous. 

16 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

Khan has no control over the law, sentencing guidlines, prisons, etc .... he merely organises the policing .

 

To put the blame on him on knife crime is ridiculous. 

 

Khan (Mayor since 2016) oversees the Met Police budget and strategy via MOPAC, so he must bear some responsibility!

Well anecdotal opinion of one ( namely me) Londoner born and bred. It's a multi-cultural city and I love it. Khan has been a great Mayor. There's a good reason he has been elected 3 times now. Knife crime? It's not confined to London. We don't have guns so our nutters have to resort to knives. Not good of course but you can't kill nearly so many with a sabatier as you can with those multi shot military guns everybody and his dog seems to be able to own in US. Trump and his crew should attend to their own country's affairs and keep their nose out of other countries business.