1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

That's like believing Snopes, who had to be shamed into posting a correction and admitting that Biden was, in fact, wearing his hardhat backward.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

555 For the cool look you invert the lining to have it right.

This is an opinion piece written by legal scholar Jonathan Turley (see link below)

The facts at this moment are, I believe, that this issue from a legal standpoint is water under the bridge, in other words, the statutes of limitations may have already passed.
In the meanwhile border czar Tom Holman indicated that he will authorize an investigation into the allegations.  
Mr. Turley's point in writing the Op-Ed was to point out that Rep Omar would be within her rights to file a defamation lawsuit, which she has not.  On the flip side, if a defamation lawsuit is filed, then she is open scrutiny in legal discovery.  
"In defamation, truth is a defense. The truth of the matter, however, has never been easy to establish. In fairness to Rep. Omar, a person should not be in a position of having to “prove a negative.” It is not her obligation to prove that she is not a fraud or that she did not marry her brother. Her critics have never produced compelling evidence to support the claim."

So this isn't an open & closed case.  There are allegations which at the present time have not be proven, but Rep Omar has not filed a defamation lawsuit.

Due to the ICE investigation though - well, more will surface as the investigation proceeds.  

https://jonathanturley.org/2025/12/12/border-tsar-holman-announces-investigation-into-rep-omar-a-case-for-fraud-or-defamation/

40 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Other than the allegations being proven true, with supporting evidence. If (and you are not😅) your claim is true and Omar did not marry her brother she will be suing the freebeacon for 100s of millions of $$. Is she doing that?

If she sued the Free Beacon for defamation, then the defendant's lawyers can open an investigation into the allegations and present their findings in court.
If there is actually "fire" where there is "smoke," it probably would be a good idea not to go to court with this issue.  If it is all bunk and she knows it - a defamation suit would clear her name.

DNA.

46 minutes ago, theshu25 said:

He cannot help himself as he is a grub of the lowest order.

Debunking a leftist conspiracy theory makes me a "grub of the lowest order"? Sad how deeply they still trust their "credible sources" after almost every core narrative of their movement has been proven false. Or is it just posturing and fake bravado due to embarrasment?

6 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

DNA.

Again. Take 5 seconds and look at his photo. They could be identical twins. Jeez

 

Do you need a DNA test to know Ilhan is a person of color? Quite

Moved to Political Soapbox

4 hours ago, Dan747 said:

This rumor has been going on in the USA for several years with "Talk and No Action" probably due to a Dual Justice System.

 

...with "Talk and No Action" probably because it's as silly as the birther conspiracy and "Michelle's a man".

 

Anyway, it seems that it's open season on Somali's now. Even the flag-wearing, right-wing knuckle-draggers in England are piling on.

 

How pathetically predictable.

 

56 minutes ago, impulse said:

More tantalizing clues out of the UK (International Business Times). 

 

This echoes claims made by Abdihakim Osman, a Somali community leader who told The Daily Mail in 2020 that Elmi was introduced as Omar's brother upon his arrival in the late 2000s. Osman alleged that the family brought Elmi to Minneapolis from London as a form of 'rehab' because he was living a 'decadent and immoral life' abroad. 'He was very feminine in the way he dressed... People started whispering about him,' Osman claimed, noting that the marriage was allegedly a mechanism to secure Elmi's immigration papers.

 

Three Adults, One Address: A Complicated Domestic Web

 

The logistics of the union have raised significant questions for investigators. Omar legally married Elmi in 2009, yet she continued to have children with her first partner, Ahmed Hirsi. In a bizarre twist, public records indicate that Omar, Elmi, and Hirsi all shared the same address for a period.  During this time, the two men appeared in friendly selfies together, a dynamic that critics find unusual for two men married to the same woman.

 

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ilhan-omar-dirty-dandy-husband-resurfaces-s-africa-trump-rages-over-her-marriage-history-1762302

 

The thick plottens...  Or is that "the noose tightens"?  I found this one poking around in the "dirty dandy" rabbit hole.

 

I hope you had a good hot shower after being down that particular rabbit hole.

1. Flame posts removed.
2. @Will B Good Tread very carefully with criticizing moderation. Post removed. Don't go there.

 

 

The claim that Ilhan Omar “married her brother” is only as strong as the evidence behind it. And when you examine what’s actually presented, the entire case collapses. What is posted is not evidence; it’s a chain of assumptions dressed up as certainty.

 

### **1. Anonymous forum posts are not evidence**
The entire narrative begins with a deleted SomaliSpot post written by an unnamed user with no verifiable identity, no documentation, and no corroboration. That is not evidence in any investigative, journalistic, or legal sense. It’s gossip.

### **2. Marriage records prove a marriage — nothing more**
The author repeatedly cites Minnesota marriage records. Those records confirm:
- Omar legally married Ahmed Nur Said Elmi in 2009.

They do **not** confirm:
- That Elmi is her biological brother,
- That the marriage was fraudulent,
- That the SomaliSpot allegation is true.

Marriage records do not list parentage. They cannot establish a sibling relationship.

### **3. Social‑media photos and shared names are circumstantial, not proof**
The argument leans heavily on:
- Photos,
- Deleted posts,
- People calling each other “family,”
- Shared Somali naming patterns.

Somali families often use the same patronymic naming structure. “Shared father’s name” is common across unrelated people. Social‑media familiarity is not a DNA test.

### **4. Refusing to answer hostile political questions is not evidence**
The author repeatedly treats Omar’s refusal to engage with him as proof of guilt. That is not how evidence works. Politicians decline interviews all the time, especially when the interviewer is openly adversarial.

Silence is not proof.

### **5. Tax irregularities are not proof of sibling marriage**
Filing joint taxes with one partner while legally married to another is sloppy, possibly unlawful, and absolutely worth scrutiny. But it does not prove a sibling relationship. It proves only that her marital paperwork was a mess.

### **6. “Somali sources” with no names, documents, or testimony are not evidence**
The article relies on:
- Unnamed sources,
- Unverifiable claims,
- Assertions that “everybody knows.”

If the claim were truly “not difficult to track,” someone would have produced:
- A birth certificate,
- An immigration file,
- A school record,
- A sworn statement from a named relative.

None exist in the piece.

### **7. The Star Tribune did not confirm the claim**
The author cites the Star Tribune as if it validated his conclusion. It didn’t. The paper documented inconsistencies and unanswered questions — and explicitly stated it could not verify any sibling relationship.

That is the opposite of proof.

### **8. The conclusion is rhetorical, not evidentiary**
The author repeatedly uses courtroom language (“beyond a reasonable doubt”) without providing courtroom‑grade evidence. He substitutes:
- Suspicion for documentation,
- Interpretation for verification,
- Certainty for proof.

This is argumentation, not evidence.

---

## **Bottom line**
What the post contains:

- Real documents showing a confusing marital history,
- Real tax irregularities,
- Real evasiveness from Omar’s campaign.

 

But **none** of that proves she married her brother. The leap from “messy and suspicious” to “proven sibling marriage” is unsupported by any direct, verifiable evidence.

 

It’s a theory built on circumstantial fragments and political hostility — not a documented fact.

 

4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

"I’m talking about Omar’s marriage to her brother, Ahmed Nur Said Elmi. Trump may have garbled the specifics, but he got the upshot of the story right. Omar’s family brought Elmi over from London in 2009 to try to extract him from a gay lifestyle, and that is the context in which the congresswoman tied the knot with him."

https://freebeacon.com/democrats/yes-ilhan-omar-married-her-brother/

 

Well nice to get this "conspiracy theory" confirmed as true and fact. The narrative here is it is one of Trumps "lies" but as we know it was not Trump lying. So, should she get sent back home for immigration fraud? Is everyone equal under the law?

Bad day for Ilhan. Will she sue for defamation? If not she is in deep doodoo

 

Btw which poster had just suggested a day or 2 ago that everyone should google the husband/brothers name and you will see he is openly gay? Yes, that was me. Takes a bow🤣

 

More sh*t show to entertain the people. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

4 hours ago, Dan747 said:

This rumor has been going on in the USA for several years with "Talk and No Action" probably due to a Dual Justice System.

 

...with "Talk and No Action" probably because it's as silly as the birther conspiracy and "Michelle's a man".

 

Anyway, it seems that it's open season on Somali's now. Even the flag-wearing, right-wing knuckle-draggers in England are piling on.

 

 

Speaking of "open season on Somalis", are you claiming this guy's a liar?

 

This echoes claims made by Abdihakim Osman, a Somali community leader who told The Daily Mail in 2020 that Elmi was introduced as Omar's brother upon his arrival in the late 2000s.

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Speaking of "open season on Somalis", are you claiming this guy's a liar?

 

This echoes claims made by Abdihakim Osman, a Somali community leader who told The Daily Mail in 2020 that Elmi was introduced as Omar's brother upon his arrival in the late 2000s.

 

No I'm not. Why would you think that?

 

The New York Post cites Somali community figure Abdihakim Osman, who told the Daily Mail in 2020 that Omar once referred to Elmi as her brother who needed "papers." These claims, however, have not been independently verified and contradict documentation Omar has provided. No federal agency has ever filed charges of marriage fraud against Omar or Elmi.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ilhan-omars-former-husband-surfaces-in-south-africa-amid-trumps-attacks-report/ar-AA1Sb9Wv?ocid=BingNewsBrowse

3 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

5 minutes ago, impulse said:

Speaking of "open season on Somalis", are you claiming this guy's a liar?

 

This echoes claims made by Abdihakim Osman, a Somali community leader who told The Daily Mail in 2020 that Elmi was introduced as Omar's brother upon his arrival in the late 2000s.

 

No I'm not. Why would you think that?

 

Well, either she married her brother, or the guy's lying.  Which is it?

5 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

The claim that Ilhan Omar “married her brother” is only as strong as the evidence behind it. And when you examine what’s actually presented, the entire case collapses. What is posted is not evidence; it’s a chain of assumptions dressed up as certainty.

 

### **1. Anonymous forum posts are not evidence**
The entire narrative begins with a deleted SomaliSpot post written by an unnamed user with no verifiable identity, no documentation, and no corroboration. That is not evidence in any investigative, journalistic, or legal sense. It’s gossip.

### **2. Marriage records prove a marriage — nothing more**
The author repeatedly cites Minnesota marriage records. Those records confirm:
- Omar legally married Ahmed Nur Said Elmi in 2009.

They do **not** confirm:
- That Elmi is her biological brother,
- That the marriage was fraudulent,
- That the SomaliSpot allegation is true.

Marriage records do not list parentage. They cannot establish a sibling relationship.

### **3. Social‑media photos and shared names are circumstantial, not proof**
The argument leans heavily on:
- Photos,
- Deleted posts,
- People calling each other “family,”
- Shared Somali naming patterns.

Somali families often use the same patronymic naming structure. “Shared father’s name” is common across unrelated people. Social‑media familiarity is not a DNA test.

### **4. Refusing to answer hostile political questions is not evidence**
The author repeatedly treats Omar’s refusal to engage with him as proof of guilt. That is not how evidence works. Politicians decline interviews all the time, especially when the interviewer is openly adversarial.

Silence is not proof.

### **5. Tax irregularities are not proof of sibling marriage**
Filing joint taxes with one partner while legally married to another is sloppy, possibly unlawful, and absolutely worth scrutiny. But it does not prove a sibling relationship. It proves only that her marital paperwork was a mess.

### **6. “Somali sources” with no names, documents, or testimony are not evidence**
The article relies on:
- Unnamed sources,
- Unverifiable claims,
- Assertions that “everybody knows.”

If the claim were truly “not difficult to track,” someone would have produced:
- A birth certificate,
- An immigration file,
- A school record,
- A sworn statement from a named relative.

None exist in the piece.

### **7. The Star Tribune did not confirm the claim**
The author cites the Star Tribune as if it validated his conclusion. It didn’t. The paper documented inconsistencies and unanswered questions — and explicitly stated it could not verify any sibling relationship.

That is the opposite of proof.

### **8. The conclusion is rhetorical, not evidentiary**
The author repeatedly uses courtroom language (“beyond a reasonable doubt”) without providing courtroom‑grade evidence. He substitutes:
- Suspicion for documentation,
- Interpretation for verification,
- Certainty for proof.

This is argumentation, not evidence.

---

## **Bottom line**
What the post contains:

- Real documents showing a confusing marital history,
- Real tax irregularities,
- Real evasiveness from Omar’s campaign.

 

But **none** of that proves she married her brother. The leap from “messy and suspicious” to “proven sibling marriage” is unsupported by any direct, verifiable evidence.

 

It’s a theory built on circumstantial fragments and political hostility — not a documented fact.

 

You should offer her legal counsel.    There are allegations.  Is there proof?  That's debatable. Where this goes will probably depend on Tom Homan's investigation.  

Ilhan Omar Under Investigation for Immigration Fraud: Trump Border Czar

updated

Dec 11, 2025 at 02:39 PM EST

 

Tom Homan, President Donald Trump’s border czar, said during a Newsmax appearance on Monday that the administration is investigating Representative Ilhan Omar for alleged immigration fraud. 

 

“I just got advised by a fraud investigator the other day on that. I asked the question, can we review the files? You know, there was immigration fraud involved,” Homan said on Newsmax. “The statute of limitation became an issue in the last four years when this was first brought up.” 

 

He continued, “Pulling the records now, pulling the files, and we’re looking at it. But this fraud investigator, who I know personally, one of the best fraud investigators in HSI, Homeland Security Investigations, said there’s no doubt he’d review the file. So, I’m running that down this week as a matter of fact, and we’ll see.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/ilhan-omar-under-investigation-for-immigration-fraud-trump-border-czar-11197141

For those among us that revel in pig wrestling...

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15368097/ilhan-omar-trump-brother-marriage-somalia.html

2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

For those among us that revel in pig wrestling...

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15368097/ilhan-omar-trump-brother-marriage-somalia.html

If this is all nonsense, then Rep Omar should be worth $100 million or so in criminal defamation lawsuit awards over the next couple of years.  Go get them sister!  

27 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

The claim that Ilhan Omar “married her brother” is only as strong as the evidence behind it. And when you examine what’s actually presented, the entire case collapses. What is posted is not evidence; it’s a chain of assumptions dressed up as certainty.

 

### **1. Anonymous forum posts are not evidence**
The entire narrative begins with a deleted SomaliSpot post written by an unnamed user with no verifiable identity, no documentation, and no corroboration. That is not evidence in any investigative, journalistic, or legal sense. It’s gossip.

### **2. Marriage records prove a marriage — nothing more**
The author repeatedly cites Minnesota marriage records. Those records confirm:
- Omar legally married Ahmed Nur Said Elmi in 2009.

They do **not** confirm:
- That Elmi is her biological brother,
- That the marriage was fraudulent,
- That the SomaliSpot allegation is true.

Marriage records do not list parentage. They cannot establish a sibling relationship.

### **3. Social‑media photos and shared names are circumstantial, not proof**
The argument leans heavily on:
- Photos,
- Deleted posts,
- People calling each other “family,”
- Shared Somali naming patterns.

Somali families often use the same patronymic naming structure. “Shared father’s name” is common across unrelated people. Social‑media familiarity is not a DNA test.

### **4. Refusing to answer hostile political questions is not evidence**
The author repeatedly treats Omar’s refusal to engage with him as proof of guilt. That is not how evidence works. Politicians decline interviews all the time, especially when the interviewer is openly adversarial.

Silence is not proof.

### **5. Tax irregularities are not proof of sibling marriage**
Filing joint taxes with one partner while legally married to another is sloppy, possibly unlawful, and absolutely worth scrutiny. But it does not prove a sibling relationship. It proves only that her marital paperwork was a mess.

### **6. “Somali sources” with no names, documents, or testimony are not evidence**
The article relies on:
- Unnamed sources,
- Unverifiable claims,
- Assertions that “everybody knows.”

If the claim were truly “not difficult to track,” someone would have produced:
- A birth certificate,
- An immigration file,
- A school record,
- A sworn statement from a named relative.

None exist in the piece.

### **7. The Star Tribune did not confirm the claim**
The author cites the Star Tribune as if it validated his conclusion. It didn’t. The paper documented inconsistencies and unanswered questions — and explicitly stated it could not verify any sibling relationship.

That is the opposite of proof.

### **8. The conclusion is rhetorical, not evidentiary**
The author repeatedly uses courtroom language (“beyond a reasonable doubt”) without providing courtroom‑grade evidence. He substitutes:
- Suspicion for documentation,
- Interpretation for verification,
- Certainty for proof.

This is argumentation, not evidence.

---

## **Bottom line**
What the post contains:

- Real documents showing a confusing marital history,
- Real tax irregularities,
- Real evasiveness from Omar’s campaign.

 

But **none** of that proves she married her brother. The leap from “messy and suspicious” to “proven sibling marriage” is unsupported by any direct, verifiable evidence.

 

It’s a theory built on circumstantial fragments and political hostility — not a documented fact.

 

A+ for effort.  You've outdone yourself  here.

What a ridiculous MAGA claim! 🤣🤣🤣

When Trump issued the claim in 2019, The New York Times delved into the allegations, finding that “no proof has emerged substantiating these claims."

https://www.al.com/politics/2025/12/trump-claims-democratic-congresswoman-married-her-brother-let-her-go-back-to-somalia.html

They're eating our pets.

Obama was born in Africa.

They're coming for our guns.

Hilary is eating children.

 

All lies but people want to believe.

5 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So, should she get sent back home for immigration fraud?

Her home is the US where she has been a citizen since she was seventeen, a status not connected to her brother.  

12 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Her home is the US where she has been a citizen since she was seventeen, a status not connected to her brother.  

Cheers Lou, I know you are a sensible and well informed poster here - Just wondering if considering her actions with her brusband, her never ending negative and damaging comments about the US, and this unprecedented fraud that revoking her citizenship and returning to sender could be possible. Just look how wound up she got democrats on here - she is major bad news all round and does nothing whatsoever to benefit the country that gave her refugee status.

6 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

"I’m talking about Omar’s marriage to her brother, Ahmed Nur Said Elmi. Trump may have garbled the specifics, but he got the upshot of the story right. Omar’s family brought Elmi over from London in 2009 to try to extract him from a gay lifestyle, and that is the context in which the congresswoman tied the knot with him."

https://freebeacon.com/democrats/yes-ilhan-omar-married-her-brother/

 

Well nice to get this "conspiracy theory" confirmed as true and fact. The narrative here is it is one of Trumps "lies" but as we know it was not Trump lying. So, should she get sent back home for immigration fraud? Is everyone equal under the law?

Bad day for Ilhan. Will she sue for defamation? If not she is in deep doodoo

 

Btw which poster had just suggested a day or 2 ago that everyone should google the husband/brothers name and you will see he is openly gay? Yes, that was me. Takes a bow🤣

 

5 hours ago, Dan747 said:

This rumor has been going on in the USA for several years with "Talk and No Action" probably due to a Dual Justice System.

She might of had Super powers, CIA , hench no actions toward her .

 

Google ai overview:

In 2019, a witness in a Florida court case, Kuwaiti-born Canadian businessman Alan Bender, claimed in a sworn deposition that U.S. Representative Ilhan Omar had been recruited by the foreign government of Qatar. Bender alleged that Qatari officials described Omar as their "jewel in the crown" and that she received cash payments and passed sensitive U.S. information to Qatar, which was then relayed to Iran.

 

https://www.fox13news.com/news/pasco-co-residents-lawsuit-leads-to-claims-rep-omar-was-recruited-funded-by-qatari-government

1 minute ago, riclag said:

 

She might of had Super powers, CIA , hench no actions toward her .

 

Google ai overview:

In 2019, a witness in a Florida court case, Kuwaiti-born Canadian businessman Alan Bender, claimed in a sworn deposition that U.S. Representative Ilhan Omar had been recruited by the foreign government of Qatar. Bender alleged that Qatari officials described Omar as their "jewel in the crown" and that she received cash payments and passed sensitive U.S. information to Qatar, which was then relayed to Iran.

 

https://www.fox13news.com/news/pasco-co-residents-lawsuit-leads-to-claims-rep-omar-was-recruited-funded-by-qatari-government

Is that how she went from having almost zero assets when she entered congress to now having between 4 and 30 MILLION $$. I expect it will be from the Somali fraud that Minnesota has become famous for but maybe not in light of your post. Nice find.

6 hours ago, Dan747 said:

This rumor has been going on in the USA for several years with "Talk and No Action" probably due to a Dual Justice System.

come on matte, don't take the fun out of him, the guy is so desperate for attention, obtuse as well,  that he will post anything

4 hours ago, cdemundo said:

So OP thinks that the assertion that Omar's brother is openly gay supports the assertion that she married him?

typical Trump post without any reliable supporting evidence

3 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

This claim about Ilhan Omar marrying her brother, Ahmed Elmi, has been around since 2016 and remains unproven after multiple investigations, including by the Minnesota Campaign Finance Board, AP, and fact-checkers like Snopes and PolitiFact.

 

The Free Beacon piece recycles old circumstantial stuff—like shared addresses and social media chatter—but no birth records, DNA, or official docs confirm they're siblings or that it was fraud; Omar calls it a baseless smear rooted in Islamophobia.

 

She did get fined for tax filing mix-ups tied to her messy (but legal) marriages, but that's it—no deportation or resignation warranted without real evidence.

 

Trump's recent revival amps the noise, but facts haven't changed

they are just diverting from the Epstein released files, maybe they want to buy some of $4.50 USD Trump's condoms and his sex toys

The problem for Mr. Homan is -- should it ever get that far -- if Ms. Omar is to be charged with criminal immigration fraud in any manner, she could not be compelled to provide DNA sample as it would be 5th amendment banned. And her 'brother' is in South Africa.
 

4 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

 she could not be compelled to provide DNA sample 
 

even Stevie Wonder can see a DNA test is not needed.😅

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11878192/did-ilhan-omar-marry-her-brother-and-what-did-the-fbi-say/