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Man shot dead by federal agents in Minneapolis

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1 minute ago, mikeymike100 said:

Exactly!

Many folks in the US own guns, over 30%, as is their right, but most of them use their guns at a range, so sport shooting, or for hunting, or purely as home defense, so protection.

What they don't do is carry their weapons to protests, where ICE agents are operating knowing that tensions are high , things can go wrong and people might get hurt, its just plain stupid!

Well, it seems ICE having guns is stupid, they kill USA civilians, give them tasers, though they might be a bit too complicated for them....😒

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1 hour ago, stevenl said:

If true, your source doesn't sound very reliable, totally irrelevant to the murder.

It wasn't a murder and it is relevant. Things only went sideways when one of the agents said something like he has a gun.

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4 hours ago, Purdey said:

Resisting ice is not a capital offence.

He was being pushed back by the ICE thug when he had the camera in his hand. They disarmed him and murdered him, shooting him 10 times when he was unarmed and on the ground........that is plain murder and is disgraceful.

Now wait for the lies to come from the White House, which will try to lay the blame elsewhere. Disgusting and disgraceful, but following the Orange clown's playbook to try to stay in power.

Americans should be ashamed as this is no more than part of a plan to keep the GOP in power.

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Not sure the Trump Abteilung will be able to escape being held accountable, this time.

Judge grants temporary restraining order to protect evidence in fatal shooting of Alex Pretti

A federal judge in Minnesota has granted a temporary restraining order blocking federal agencies from destroying or altering evidence related to the fatal shooting of 37-year-old Alex Pretti by a federal agent in Minneapolis

https://www.cnn.com/webview/us/live-news/ice-minneapolis-shooting-01-24-26?cid=android_app

2 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

$1500 rig

That ain't no squirt gun

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1 hour ago, CFCjeff said:

Zero sympathy for this guy, he went looking for trouble he found it. Good work ICE, keeping the streets safe from rapists, paedos, and unhinged left wing retards.

When they're coming for you guys and your guns I will cheer them on.thumbsup

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Pretti’s family released a statement on Saturday evening in which they said they were “heartbroken but also very angry” after Donald Trump and his officials referred to Pretti as a “gunman” who had approached US border patrol officers.

The sickening lies told about our son by the administration are reprehensible and disgusting. Alex is clearly not holding a gun when attacked by Trump’s murdering and cowardly ICE thugs. He has his phone in his right hand and his empty left hand is raised above his head while trying to protect the woman ICE just pushed down all while being pepper sprayed,” the family statement said. “Please get the truth out about our son. He was a good man.”

Two witnesses to the killing have said in sworn testimony that the intensive care nurse was not brandishing a weapon when he approached federal agents in Minneapolis on Saturday.

One witness, who filmed the shooting from right behind Pretti, said federal agents tackled him after he came to help someone whom they had pushed to the ground.

Footage from the scene supports the assertion that Pretti is holding a phone, not a gun, when he was tackled and shot.

Minneapolis shooting: Parents of Alex Pretti say Trump officials are telling 'sickening lies'

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Other than breaking the law. Why he was shot is still speculation. What can't be denied is he went there armed and physically resisted/took on armed ICE officers.

Correct, it seems facts don't matter to some individuals?

This tragedy could of easily been avoided.

Going to protest or record what ICE are doing is one thing, but taking firearms along and resisting is another.

Did ICE over react when one of the agents shouted he has a gun, possibly, even likely, but until the investigation is complete we won't know.

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2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Well done indeed for inflaming a situation that has now cost two lives and taken the attention away from a possible $19,000,000,000 fraud scam under your watch.

The Epstein files isn't a fraud. And why do you care about fraud? Do you know how many convicted fraudsters Trump has pardoned the last year??😆

1 minute ago, bannork said:

Pretti’s family released a statement on Saturday evening in which they said they were “heartbroken but also very angry” after Donald Trump and his officials referred to Pretti as a “gunman” who had approached US border patrol officers.

The sickening lies told about our son by the administration are reprehensible and disgusting. Alex is clearly not holding a gun when attacked by Trump’s murdering and cowardly ICE thugs. He has his phone in his right hand and his empty left hand is raised above his head while trying to protect the woman ICE just pushed down all while being pepper sprayed,” the family statement said. “Please get the truth out about our son. He was a good man.”

Two witnesses to the killing have said in sworn testimony that the intensive care nurse was not brandishing a weapon when he approached federal agents in Minneapolis on Saturday.

One witness, who filmed the shooting from right behind Pretti, said federal agents tackled him after he came to help someone whom they had pushed to the ground.

Footage from the scene supports the assertion that Pretti is holding a phone, not a gun, when he was tackled and shot.

Minneapolis shooting: Parents of Alex Pretti say Trump officials are telling 'sickening lies'

Indeed. He was not brandishing his weapon. His weapon was concealed. Why did he go to agitate with a concealed weapon, two extra clips and no ID? This seems to be a question not being asked.

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2 hours ago, xylophone said:

Disgusting by ICE and trump is the idiot clown behind it all.

Don't forget the idiots enabling him.

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8 hours ago, KhunLA said:

in case above gets deleted for no source ...

Reported in news elsewhere, he was carrying 9mm ...

... with 2 extra mags of ammo.

Who does that unless .... you plan on having a shoot out ... IMHO

You got 10-15 rounds, do you really need 20-30 more.

Guess you're right. ICE only needed TEN GODDAMN ROUNDS to unalive him AFTER he was disarmed, with 7 goons pinning him to the ground.

4 hours ago, stevenl said:

Apparently Bondi disagrees with you. It's about voter files.

Just throw this impeachable offence on the pile with the rest of them.

US Senator Chris Murphy states that ICEs purpose is to rig and steal the election. Pam Bondi wants Minnesota’s voter rolls in exchange for ICE leaving.


https://youtube.com/shorts/4-bwVJJq7eY?si=rr5mm-IZYzyjdA9j

10 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

dinsdale posted

Well done indeed for inflaming a situation that has now cost two lives and taken the attention away from a possible $19,000,000,000 fraud scam under your watch.

What is this "$19,000,000,000 fraud of which the hedgehog speaks??

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1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

How is it irrelevant? He was carrying concealed. He should have made this clear to the agents. He was licenced to carry concealed yet he didn't havehis licence or it seems any ID on him which by law he was required to have. This is not irrelevant? Had he disclosed he was carrying concealed and cooperated rather than resisting aggressively this thread wouldn't exist.ng concealed and cooperated rather than resisting aggressively this thread wouldn't exist.


The lack of ID is a legal excuse the Feds will be using to make the victim look suspicious to get themselves off the hook, not that they need any help as the corrupt Executive Office are spewing lies about the event even when we can see with our own eyes a different story. Unlike the White House view, the videos make his death look like an excessive use of force and murder with several bullets pumped into him after he had his weapon removed that was never brandished to start with.

1 minute ago, xylophone said:

What is this "$19,000,000,000 fraud of which the hedgehog speaks??

Just lame, pathetic diversions. It's all they've got and they're getting shriller and shriller by the day.

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Even Fox have had to admit what's plain for all to see.

Walz's National Guard is mobilized.....whats next Trump's 82nd Airborne drops in ?? Looks like that Trump speech given to all the Top US Military Generals and Admirals that gathered from around the globe is knocking at the door so to speak...........incredibly shocking USA.............

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More lefty lies.

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As usual, I am going to give this 24 hours before making any definitive assertions. From what IS available, Pretti was, as many protesters are wont to do, blocking the street and trying to direct traffic. Video shows this. Hence ICE agents shoving him off the road. And then...... let's wait and see.


In general, these tragedies could easily be avoided if there was any competent leadership at the local or state level. Both the mayor and governor speak out of both sides of their mouth. First, they say ICE agents are dangerous and untrained thugs. Second, they encourage protesters to get in the agents' faces and be aggressive. A recipe for disaster.

How about, I dunno, co-operating with federal law enforcement? In this particular operation, ICE was going after an illegal with a criminal record for assault, robbery, etc. The kind of guy the city should WELCOME being deported. Yet in their rush to be a sanctuary for these types of scumbags, they don't care. And leave such predators at large. Shame.

Whatever is actually going on (and I believe much of this is crisis acting and not actually occurring) the end result is a foregone conclusion. The Insurrection Act. Trump has told us so directly.

You can believe what you will about Trump's motivations for leading us down this path, but there is no point in ignoring where we're headed. The optics of insurrection will continue and spread in order to facilitate bringing in the military to do what local governments are unwilling to do. One way or another, we're about to move out of the darkness of espionage warfare and into the time of overt militarism and exposure of whatever the agenda has been for the last 9 years.

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11 minutes ago, uncletiger said:

Whatever is actually going on (and I believe much of this is crisis acting and not actually occurring) the end result is a foregone conclusion. The Insurrection Act. Trump has told us so directly.

You can believe what you will about Trump's motivations for leading us down this path, but there is no point in ignoring where we're headed. The optics of insurrection will continue and spread in order to facilitate bringing in the military to do what local governments are unwilling to do. One way or another, we're about to move out of the darkness of espionage warfare and into the time of overt militarism and exposure of whatever the agenda has been for the last 9 years.

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That nonsense and rubbish about stolen money, coming from trump will fool the MAGAs, but not those people with a brain.

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I agree with comments that it isn't advisable to bring a gun to a protest. Then again, many deriding Alex Pretti wrote well of Kyle Rittenhouse after he shot three men in Kenosha, Wisconsin, two fatally, in August 2020, during protests there. In this case, the gun was legally being carried. The ICE officer who started shooting over reacted upon seeing it. Back in 2020 the police officers did nothing while seeing a long-gun.

I am repeatedly sickened by the lust for ICE violence and falsehoods spread by the Trump supporters on this forum. Like with Renee Good, the video exposes the DHS responses as cover-ups and lies rapidly issued to stem a story. More to blame, the same media channel that settled a lawsuit from the lies told during the 2020 election usually backs the DHS lies. This amplifies the divisiveness in the nation, but keeps their views/ their business cash flow strong.

In this case Alex Pretti's family issued this statement: "The sickening lies told about our son by the administration are reprehensible and disgusting," the family wrote in a statement obtained by the AP. "Alex is clearly not holding a gun when attacked by Trump’s murdering and cowardly ICE thugs. He has his phone in his right hand and his empty left hand is raised above his head while trying to protect the woman ICE just pushed down all while being pepper sprayed. Please get the truth out about our son. He was a good man. Thank you."


Here is another analysis:

Video from the scene shows Pretti directing traffic on a street out of an area with agents around, then trying to help another person get up after she had been pushed to the ground by the agents. The agents then surround Pretti and shoot pepper spray into his face, then pull him to the ground from behind and hit him as he appears to be trying to keep his head off the ground. An agent appears to take a gun out of Pretti’s waistband during the struggle, then turns and leaves with it. A shot then stops Pretti’s movements, appearing to kill him, before nine more shots ring out, apparently as agents continued to fire into his body.

1 hour ago, uncletiger said:

Whatever is actually going on (and I believe much of this is crisis acting and not actually occurring) the end result is a foregone conclusion. The Insurrection Act. Trump has told us so directly.

You can believe what you will about Trump's motivations for leading us down this path, but there is no point in ignoring where we're headed. The optics of insurrection will continue and spread in order to facilitate bringing in the military to do what local governments are unwilling to do. One way or another, we're about to move out of the darkness of espionage warfare and into the time of overt militarism and exposure of whatever the agenda has been for the last 9 years.

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Do you believe everything Trump says? 😁

Unfortunately we need more of that..

10 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Why bring a firearm to a peaceful protest where law enforcement are confronted? Yes, he had a permit to carry, but why take a handgun to a protest Another needless gun related death. The USA is tearing itself apart.

ICE carry, so why wouldn't an ICU nurse?

10 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Here's a good idea. I'll take this with me and go and get in the face of armed ICE officers. I'd better take an extra two high capacity clips with me for good measure.

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This from some rooftop would be more indicate, it goes through vests..

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Had this guy managed to kill a few ICE agents, he'd have been a hero to the left.

I think it's great that the dumba** protestors start carrying guns and waving them at ICE.

10 hours ago, KhunLA said:

They are not good neighbors, they are criminals.

Was that five year old child armed?

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7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I think it's great that the dumba** protestors start carrying guns and waving them at ICE.

Oh, they're waving them at ICE? Do tell (and show). Or are you just flapping your lyin' lips again?thumbsup

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