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Is Thailand Really a Smart Place to Grow Old?

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2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

And surprisingly good this year too!

Although the Thai government can't control what happens over the borders in Myanmar and Laos - and can't control the wind...

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    It's a dream in the sense that if your into compiling statistics and graphs then it can keep you busy , although the Philippines would also keep me busy in my academic hobby I have had many universit

  • spidermike007
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    Well it certainly is for me. I find everyday here to be rather delightful, and I'm continually amazed at how pleasant the average Thai person is, how wonderful their sense of humor is, how playful the

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    I suppose. But you can rent a house in Thailand. I moved from a U.S. condo to a Thai condo, almost identical space. You can buy or rent bigger than a shoebox condos here, you know? One thing I will s

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9 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

"Land of the forlorn," is a fairly accurate description of a once great country. Americans have endured periods of upheaval in the past, but this time it's different. We have an administration that flouts the Constitution every day and continually lies about anything and everything. My wish is that the "Lion King" falls off of his throne and is replaced be someone that will put an end to all this nonsense.

I love living in Thailand and missed the the Presidency of the old dementia Joe in the White House. I have been out of the good-ol-USA for almost seven years now. But now that President Trump is making America great again, I am ready for a visit and making plans to visit my family. It will be a relief getting on that plane knowing that the U.S. is in great shape and the illegals are being finally prosecuted by ICE. I will stay away from Somalinapolis as it is a lost cause but visit other patriotic parts of the U.S.

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6 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

True, and a nightmare when you don't, which is anywhere you choose to live.You also have to be comfortable where you live, in a place where you can be yourself, enjoying your hobbies, without fear of deportation, driving on the roads, breathing the air, being accosted, and where your children have the prospect of a good future.

So true. has to be the right woman (just started another thread on this).

My 'home country' is much less safe than Thailand, and getting worse everyday. I agree visa hassles are a downer for many, but I'm fortunate to have got PR.

29 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Although the Thai government can't control what happens over the borders in Myanmar and Laos - and can't control the wind...

For some reason when you wrote wind I thought of farting .please excuse a man of my academic background for that ,

3 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

romanticize

I have added this word to my list

Beautiful word I haven't heard before

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30 minutes ago, Screaming said:

I love living in Thailand and missed the the Presidency of the old dementia Joe in the White House. I have been out of the good-ol-USA for almost seven years now. But now that President Trump is making America great again, I am ready for a visit and making plans to visit my family. It will be a relief getting on that plane knowing that the U.S. is in great shape and the illegals are being finally prosecuted by ICE. I will stay away from Somalinapolis as it is a lost cause but visit other patriotic parts of the U.S.

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ICE is not only prosecuting illegals, they are also harassing and brutalizing both naturalized and natural born U.S. citizens. Maybe your family will fill you in on how great America has become. Don't be surprised if you don't hear what you have been led to believe. It may take a while, but you will see for yourself how a once thriving economy is now on stuck in reverse.

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4 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

I would say romanticize Thai family values and respect for the elderly, particularly as to the extent they extend to foreign in-laws at your own peril. 99% of elderly Thais in rural areas who are no longer able to care for themselves end up disappearing into the house, rarely, if ever, to be seen again. They quickly become bed-bound. Physical assistance, therapy, recreational activities are quite limited. Dietary, medicinal and medical access is minimal as well. I'm not suggesting that the elderly are neglected, although by Western standards they, in fact, are. It's just that because of low-incomes and lack of know-how, the standard of care is most often rudimentary. If you want to explore what the realities of elder care in rural Thailand is really like, I suggest seeking out and visiting a family or two in your community who are caring for an elderly relative.

What you say about the elderly being neglected is not a given. I have witnessed elderly abuse in the U.S. and excellent care of the aged in Thailand.

My farang neigbors seemed to end up in hospital with lung diseases ,not sure if they were Covid or something else we could never find out ,but they never came out of hospital alive.also extreme heat and pollution can end your life..los not good for the elderly imo

4 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

I would say romanticize Thai family values and respect for the elderly, particularly as to the extent they extend to foreign in-laws at your own peril. 99% of elderly Thais in rural areas who are no longer able to care for themselves end up disappearing into the house, rarely, if ever, to be seen again. They quickly become bed-bound. Physical assistance, therapy, recreational activities are quite limited. Dietary, medicinal and medical access is minimal as well. I'm not suggesting that the elderly are neglected, although by Western standards they, in fact, are. It's just that because of low-incomes and lack of know-how, the standard of care is most often rudimentary. If you want to explore what the realities of elder care in rural Thailand is really like, I suggest seeking out and visiting a family or two in your community who are caring for an elderly relative.

Excellent post ...

7 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

ICE is not only prosecuting illegals, they are also harassing and brutalizing both naturalized and natural born U.S. citizens. Maybe your family will fill you in on how great America has become. Don't be surprised if you don't hear what you have been led to believe. It may take a while, but you will see for yourself how a once thriving economy is now on stuck in reverse.

Oh please they are stopping illegal people who may need assistance

3 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

What you say about the elderly being neglected is not a given. I have witnessed elderly abuse in the U.S. and excellent care of the aged in Thailand.

11 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

My farang neigbors seemed to end up in hospital with lung diseases ,not sure if they were Covid or something else we could never find out ,but they never came out of hospital alive.also extreme heat and pollution can end your life..los not good for the elderly imo

Unless they smoked when they were younger ?

18 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

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I lived in Thailand for 6 years before.I will not move back again.Holidays is enough for me.

That said i think Thailand is NOT a good place to getting old in.I meet many foreigners and almost everyone tell what a great life..great wife..and so on.After a few beers the story change 180 degree.Many get lonely and drink everyday.Many lost all contact with their family.The worst person u could lie to is urself.

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14 minutes ago, John Drake said:

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18 minutes ago, norsurin said:

I lived in Thailand for 6 years before.I will not move back again.Holidays is enough for me.

That said i think Thailand is NOT a good place to getting old in.I meet many foreigners and almost everyone tell what a great life..great wife..and so on.After a few beers the story change 180 degree.Many get lonely and drink everyday.Many lost all contact with their family.The worst person u could lie to is urself.

I agree

I have met a many as the saying goes ...met a many particularly in Pattaya who regretted their decision because the lonilessness set in

Oh it's all fine and dandy the first few months , going out to bars etc living in your own condo ...oh what a life you tell yourself...THEN ..maybe 6 months down the track ,maybe more , you come to realise you really have NO friends at the bars you go to every night ....the ladies are there for your money and you MISS life back in farangland

No one gives a hoot if your in hospital,no one from the bar visits you

All your friends and even family are in farangland, the club's you went to ,the work you went to , the house you lived in,it's all back home !

And home is where you grew up

But you plodder on ....yes a new word I learnt .plodder ...so you plodder on tricking yourself that it's a great life here and you even tell family back in your home country it's great here in having the time of my life

Back to the bar to see old Les ,Des and shez for your weekly drinking session then back to the condo

So you get lonely you try to hook up with a Thai girl to be a support person, who you end up actually paying but you can pretend it's love because you NEED someone to pretend to CARE for you

Oh what a life

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27 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

What you say about the elderly being neglected is not a given. I have witnessed elderly abuse in the U.S. and excellent care of the aged in Thailand.

My comments were not a general comment about all of Thailand. Of course, the quality of care in more urban or wealthier areas is going to be of a higher quality. My comments addressed the quality of care in rural Thailand which is where the poster I was responding to lives. What I said was: "I'm not suggesting that the elderly are neglected, although by Western standards they, in fact, are. It's just that because of low-incomes and lack of sophistication about elder care, the standard of care is most often rudimentary.

The issue about the extent to which a foreigner would receive top quality care from the extended family is really a non-starter for me. This is based on the rudimentary level of care provided by Thais to other Thais which I have observed on multiple occasions over the years provided to even the most beloved and revered members of the family, due to lack of resources and lack of sophistication about elder needs. That standard of Thai-to-Thai care has to be treated as the benchmark for whatever care a foreigner would receive.

Now, if a foreigner had the funds to buy a wheel chair lift transport van to transport himself to Bangkok's top rated hospitals, buy all manner of convalescent equipment, pay for at home nursing and physiotherapy, the latest medications, recreational outings, etc., and retained the ability to direct his or her level of care throughout his convalescence, well, that would be a different story, but in my experience, that is rarely the case.

I am also strongly of the opinion that family values and intergenerational ties have eroded significantly in the past half century in Thailand, and the notion that the elderly are cherished above all else is nowadays more often an aspirational cultural value than one which is vigorously practiced. I furthermore have seen little evidence that foreigners enjoy anything more than muted benefit from this value, especially, as it is sometimes claimed, from the extended family. I have seen marketing material from assisted living facilities in Thailand which claim that the staff have culturally engrained nurturing instincts, and I think this is mostly outdated BS.

21 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

My comments were not a general comment about all of Thailand. Of course, the quality of care in more urban or wealthier areas is going to be of a higher quality. My comments addressed the quality of care in rural Thailand which is where the poster I was responding to lives. What I said was: "I'm not suggesting that the elderly are neglected, although by Western standards they, in fact, are. It's just that because of low-incomes and lack of sophistication about elder care, the standard of care is most often rudimentary.

The issue about the extent to which a foreigner would receive top quality care from the extended family is really a non-starter for me. This is based on the rudimentary level of care provided by Thais to other Thais which I have observed on multiple occasions over the years provided to even the most beloved and revered members of the family, due to lack of resources and lack of sophistication about elder needs. That standard of Thai-to-Thai care has to be treated as the benchmark for whatever care a foreigner would receive. If a foreigner had the funds to buy a wheel chair lift transport van to transport himself to Bangkok's top rated hospitals, buy all manner of convalescent equipment, pay for at home physiotherapy, the latest medications, recreational outings, etc., as well as retaining the ability to direct his or her level of care, well that would be a different story, but in my experience, that is rarely the case.

I am also strongly of the opinion that family values and intergenerational ties have eroded significantly in the past half century in Thailand, and the notion that the elderly are cherished above all else is nowadays more often an aspirational cultural value than one which is vigorously put into practice. I furthermore have seen little evidence that foreigners enjoy at best a muted benefit of this value, especially, as it is sometimes claimed, from the extended family. I have seen marketing material from assisted living facilities in Thailand which claim that the staff have culturally engrained nurturing instincts, and I think this is mostly outdated BS.

I have seen neglectful behavior here and heard about it in the US, although you won't get away with it long there.

Interacting with a few Thai families here for the last 8 years, the elderly that are bed bound or close are fed and given some kind of care, but they are just part of the rest of the family, where everyone eats dinner on the floors and for the most part they are largely forgotten. Of course this is what I've observed, and like you mentioned, isn't all of what happens here.

Until the selfies are made when they visit home a few times a year, and posted on Facebook, showing off when they're with grandma or grandpa, then they leave and go back to their own little worlds in the large cities or tourist areas, a good percentage of children left behind at the old house, with those grandmas and grandpas, and sometimes younger siblings who do the cooking and cleaning, bringing them to school, or allowing them to drive themselves all over, from age 8 on, on scooters without helmets.

The society here had always been take care of the elderly, which is something not done all the time in the west, where many are put in care facilities and forgotten by many. This is becoming less and less here, with the younger generation more interested in media and such, with a large amount of fatherless homes. The girls in the family are supposed to take care of the elderly parents when they can't themselves, with the boys not doing much at all there, let alone with their own families.

I'm thinking the more Thailand becomes "westernized", the more this will occur. Many leave the homestead as soon as possible, as my ex and her 10 siblings did, with only 3 remaining with grandma. Two very disturbed and one who has brain damage from a scooter accident decades before. My ex has stated many times she hates her mother, and puts on a face when around her, but not always, as they too get into it occasionally. This behavior has trickled on down to my ex, who is as violent as any woman you could see at times. Of course this doesn't reflect on all households here, as I've seen quite a few that are close, but the "fakeness" is evident in many the longer you live here.

20 hours ago, Kyoto Kyle said:

This is a genuine question and not an attack on anyone who already lives here or loves it. But is Thailand really a smart place to spend the last third of your life?

Thailand gets talked about nonstop as a dream retirement destination. Cheap living. Easy food. Beaches. Warm weather. Services available for just about anything. Basically a soft landing for men with a bit of cash who are tired of the West and want an easier daily life.

But the older I get the more I wonder if people are only looking at the upside and ignoring the stuff that actually matters once your body is no longer forgiving.

When you are young or even middle aged you can shrug things off. Heat is annoying but manageable. Air pollution is just a bad month or three. Traffic is chaotic but you stay alert. Medical costs are hypothetical.

That changes later on.

A few things I keep coming back to.

Thailand consistently ranks at or near the top globally for road deaths. As reflexes slow and eyesight fades, is this really the environment you want to be navigating daily?

Air pollution is not just an inconvenience. For older lungs and hearts it can mean chronic breathing issues or worse. Burning season is not a meme when you are seventy.

Heat tolerance drops as you age. Long humid days that feel merely uncomfortable at fifty can become exhausting and dangerous later on.

Private hospitals are excellent but also brutally expensive if you do not have top tier international insurance. Public hospitals are another story and not always reassuring for complex age related care.

Social safety nets are thin. If things go wrong financially or medically, you are largely on your own in a foreign system as a second class citizen.

Long term care is rarely discussed. Assisted living, dementia care, and end of life support are not cheap or straightforward here.

None of this means Thailand is bad. It clearly works very well for a lot of people right now.

The question is whether it still works when you are no longer mobile, independent, or resilient. When the margin for error shrinks.

Is Thailand really a place to grow old in or is it a place that works best only while you are still healthy enough to enjoy the advantages?

Man, I thought you were going to bring up some serious stuff when I read the title.

It all needs to be weighed against what you have and what you expect to have (last) in your home country.

The only thing I am concerned about is hospitalization. Yet, any serious hospitalization, serious chronic illness would bankrupt me in US as well. I'm healthy at 65.

While Thailand has doubled in price in the last twenty years it's still miles cheaper than price gouging USA

I have a lovely wife and a good life here. I love the food, markets, malls and all the pretty girlies everywhere...side chicks 🧨

It's far better base to travel internationally than California

Most everything is very convenient and you can get things done fast and cheap.

I love my simple life

I'm a dead ender. Hopefully, by 70 I'll never need to go back.

Not to mention I'd given up on the place decades before. Saw all the anti white, anti male rubbish coming like a freight train.

California ffs. First filled up with nasty people from East Coast and then immigrants with no intention of assimilation unlike say the immigrants of the 60-70s.

I'm getting a great pension for what I'd paid in and that's the way it was planned. I knew it wasn't going to last decades ago.

So long suckers and thanks for the fish.

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Some posters may know that I recently returned to live in the UK, partly because I had hit my UK state pension age, and partly because I had recently been deported from Laos! (for enjoying my 100% legal ham radio hobby, but that's another story..)

Anyway, I considered all the factors that the OP mentioned, and made a judgement call that in my old age I would be better off in the UK - so I jumped on a plane and headed back to the west country (Somerset).

After 23 years living in south-east Asia, of course I experienced reverse-culture shock, but I rapidly regreted my decision to return back to the UK. Although I have sufficient funds to live OK (I have my state pension and I still teach science online), I realised that the the UK had 'moved on' in those 23 years and left me 'behind', because I had spent many of those years teaching in rather remote regions of Burma and Laos, where diversity and political correctness were foreign words :)

I'm happy to welcome contributing foreigners to the UK (just as I am a foreigner in Laos etc), but when one looks at the stats and social welfare costs, it all looks a bit mad. I'm able to afford healthy food from the supermarkets etc, but (presumably because of the high business rates), eating out or enjoying a few beers with friends in a pub will rapidly reduce my monthly income. I won't talk about my house rent, other to say that it is a 100% financial rip-off!

I cam back to the UK because of concerns of my health, but now that I'm back I feel like I'm just waiting to die, in that at 66 years old I could be 'waiting to die' for another 30 years!! Thinking about this, I would rather continue my educational charity efforts in lower-cost south-east Asia, and face illness or accident if/when it raises its head.

Cancer/long-term illnesses would allow one to return permanently to the UK for NHS (or BUPA) care - my UK BUPA monthly fee is reasonably low.

Sudden illness (heart attack/stroke) is covered by my expat insurance policy that also has emergency evacuation etc). If such an event occured in Myanmar, it's probably time to meet my maker, since hospitals are few and far between.

Accidents (motorbike) - the risk of these can be minimsed by not riding a motorbike, or riding only during the day, slowly and with a good crash helmet.

So... the bottom line that I'm suggesting is 'Put some money away for that final trip back to your home country - but don't put your life on hold as you age. Stay fit and healthly and enjoy your life, because regardless of which country you're living in, tomorrow that #28 bus might come along and squash you!'

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17 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Some posters may know that I recently returned to live in the UK, partly because I had hit my UK state pension age, and partly because I had recently been deported from Laos! (for enjoying my 100% legal ham radio hobby, but that's another story..)

Anyway, I considered all the factors that the OP mentioned, and made a judgement call that in my old age I would be better off in the UK - so I jumped on a plane and headed back to the west country (Somerset).

After 23 years living in south-east Asia, of course I experienced reverse-culture shock, but I rapidly regreted my decision to return back to the UK. Although I have sufficient funds to live OK (I have my state pension and I still teach science online), I realised that the the UK had 'moved on' in those 23 years and left me 'behind', because I had spent many of those years teaching in rather remote regions of Burma and Laos, where diversity and political correctness were foreign words :)

I'm happy to welcome contributing foreigners to the UK (just as I am a foreigner in Laos etc), but when one looks at the stats and social welfare costs, it all looks a bit mad. I'm able to afford healthy food from the supermarkets etc, but (presumably because of the high business rates), eating out or enjoying a few beers with friends in a pub will rapidly reduce my monthly income. I won't talk about my house rent, other to say that it is a 100% financial rip-off!

I cam back to the UK because of concerns of my health, but now that I'm back I feel like I'm just waiting to die, in that at 66 years old I could be 'waiting to die' for another 30 years!! Thinking about this, I would rather continue my educational charity efforts in lower-cost south-east Asia, and face illness or accident if/when it raises its head.

Cancer/long-term illnesses would allow one to return permanently to the UK for NHS (or BUPA) care - my UK BUPA monthly fee is reasonably low.

Sudden illness (heart attack/stroke) is covered by my expat insurance policy that also has emergency evacuation etc). If such an event occured in Myanmar, it's probably time to meet my maker, since hospitals are few and far between.

Accidents (motorbike) - the risk of these can be minimsed by not riding a motorbike, or riding only during the day, slowly and with a good crash helmet.

So... the bottom line that I'm suggesting is 'Put some money away for that final trip back to your home country - but don't put your life on hold as you age. Stay fit and healthly and enjoy your life, because regardless of which country you're living in, tomorrow that #28 bus might come along and squash you!'

Rather than spending a fortune on UK rental costs and eating out, couldn't you get good health insurance and continue the teaching work in Asia?

I'm not planning on going back to UK for my final year's, it's too cold, miserable and woke/islamic for me.

33 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Some posters may know that I recently returned to live in the UK, partly because I had hit my UK state pension age, and partly because I had recently been deported from Laos! (for enjoying my 100% legal ham radio hobby, but that's another story..)

Anyway, I considered all the factors that the OP mentioned, and made a judgement call that in my old age I would be better off in the UK - so I jumped on a plane and headed back to the west country (Somerset).

After 23 years living in south-east Asia, of course I experienced reverse-culture shock, but I rapidly regreted my decision to return back to the UK. Although I have sufficient funds to live OK (I have my state pension and I still teach science online), I realised that the the UK had 'moved on' in those 23 years and left me 'behind', because I had spent many of those years teaching in rather remote regions of Burma and Laos, where diversity and political correctness were foreign words :)

I'm happy to welcome contributing foreigners to the UK (just as I am a foreigner in Laos etc), but when one looks at the stats and social welfare costs, it all looks a bit mad. I'm able to afford healthy food from the supermarkets etc, but (presumably because of the high business rates), eating out or enjoying a few beers with friends in a pub will rapidly reduce my monthly income. I won't talk about my house rent, other to say that it is a 100% financial rip-off!

I cam back to the UK because of concerns of my health, but now that I'm back I feel like I'm just waiting to die, in that at 66 years old I could be 'waiting to die' for another 30 years!! Thinking about this, I would rather continue my educational charity efforts in lower-cost south-east Asia, and face illness or accident if/when it raises its head.

Cancer/long-term illnesses would allow one to return permanently to the UK for NHS (or BUPA) care - my UK BUPA monthly fee is reasonably low.

Sudden illness (heart attack/stroke) is covered by my expat insurance policy that also has emergency evacuation etc). If such an event occured in Myanmar, it's probably time to meet my maker, since hospitals are few and far between.

Accidents (motorbike) - the risk of these can be minimsed by not riding a motorbike, or riding only during the day, slowly and with a good crash helmet.

So... the bottom line that I'm suggesting is 'Put some money away for that final trip back to your home country - but don't put your life on hold as you age. Stay fit and healthly and enjoy your life, because regardless of which country you're living in, tomorrow that #28 bus might come along and squash you!'

Yeah I thought so. Nobody likes the UK now except immigrants. Asia is way better.

7 hours ago, kinyara said:

As I enter my 60's I've been lucky enough to spend the majority of the last 25 years based/living in Thailand. Sadly I reached the point last year where I felt it was no longer the place I wanted to grow old. Not an instant decision or a reflection on my values or needs changing significantly, more a gradual decline in the quality of the environment around me and third party factors outside of my control.

I genuinely think Thailand has gone steadily backwards since the military took control a decade ago. I think this is borne out in economic performance and many other benchmarks you care to look at. While you could argue politics doesn't directly us as foreigners, a happy and economically prosperous populace led by a competent forward looking government and system acting in the interests of the majority does in so many ways. Unfortunately I see little hope for a country where the future majority of that country are having their wishes ignored by a corrupt entrenched self interested elite.

Will today mark a turning point for the better or will Thailand continue on its downward path while its neighbours move further ahead or catch up. I'm not optimistic and prefer to appreciate the good times I had but accept I need to move on given time is a precious commodity now more than ever at my stage of life.

I'm not sure economic success is necessarily good for us ageing expats?

Just imagine if Thailand developed up to the standard of Singapore? We'd struggle to afford to live here, and the low cost labour (and women) we appreciate would 'appreciate' out of reach.

On 2/7/2026 at 7:57 PM, Alpha84 said:

Good points. Also many dangerously low overhangs in front of local shops and lots of dangling live electrical wires on the streets. It certainly is not as bad as it was decades ago. But it still can be something very difficult to navigate for somebody elderly.

The dangling line are not electical but internet lines. When you get a new upgrade or a new internet server the old lines are not taken down. Blame the internet people not the electric ones.

7 hours ago, simon43 said:

Although the Thai government can't control what happens over the borders in Myanmar and Laos - and can't control the wind...

But most of the local pollution is local. Thais are doing a much better job at reducing burning at the village level and this year and last have been wonderful. One home burning trash or whatever throws the PMI over 200 for hours for all the homes within 300 meters. Huge fines this year and the burners are waiting to see what happens. Only takes a couple 20k fines ( burning along any road in my province) to stop it.

if you got the money to pay for hospital and an elderly home, then thailand is simply the best,

otherwise it just isnt. i had to give up my hope of spending my last years in thailand

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4 hours ago, Nurf said:

The only thing I am concerned about is hospitalization. Yet, any serious hospitalization, serious chronic illness would bankrupt me in US as well. I'm healthy at 65.

Something I wonder about is this. And this is just a hypothetical, but if someone is a foreigner (not a Thai citizen) in Thailand has no medical insurance and the hospital is aware that the person is say a tourist or a retired pensioner on a small retirement income and has no real cash saved or assets in Thailand and suffers a heart attack, what actually happens?

If it is a medical emergency, the person would likely be taken to an emergency room and their life would be saved. Most likely this would be at a government hospital and no questions would be asked at the time.

But now assume that while doctors are saving the person’s life, they discover that the patient also needs emergency heart surgery within the next two or three days or the person could die. If the patient has no medical insurance and no ability to pay for the life saving surgery, what happens next in Thailand? Would the hospital still perform the surgery even if there is no prospect or guarantee that the bill will ever be ever be paid either in part or at all?

Now assume the same exact scenario happens in the United States. Most likely the hospital would still perform the surgery rather than let the person die. Afterward, the patient would be hit with a massive bill and the hospital would try to collect later through legal means, possibly forcing the person to sell assets or face long term debt.

I actually know someone this happened to in the United States. They had a heart attack and had no health insurance, but their life was saved in the hospital, and when they woke up they were presented with a bill of something like one million dollars. The person had no money and no assets to pay it. They walked out of the hospital and never paid anything. I am not sure if the hospital ever pursued it further, but I don't think the hospital ever collected anything from the person.

Trump, USA, UK, left, right, ICE ...

... FFS when will it end. Moving to TH is a smart move, (if for you), once here, ignore AN, and avoid all expats. You'll have a much more enjoyable life here.

16 minutes ago, mordothailand said:

if you got the money to pay for hospital and an elderly home, then thailand is simply the best,

otherwise it just isnt. i had to give up my hope of spending my last years in thailand

Very interesting

Some I know would disagree and I have seen it written before

May I ask kind Sir Is it a medication reason?

26 minutes ago, atpeace said:

But most of the local pollution is local. Thais are doing a much better job at reducing burning at the village level and this year and last have been wonderful. One home burning trash or whatever throws the PMI over 200 for hours for all the homes within 300 meters. Huge fines this year and the burners are waiting to see what happens. Only takes a couple 20k fines ( burning along any road in my province) to stop it.

Oh please don't rejoice at this news!

It's a cultural thing that has always been done ,why try and stop this ,it's a bit like when we complain of immigration

21 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Yeah pollution is seriously bad north of Bangkok.

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But not always in the northeast. This is tonight's PM2.5 display. The northeast (I'm at the gold bell icon) enjoys a good north-easterly breeze at this time of the year. Air pollution isn't an issue here.

5 hours ago, Kinnock said:

Rather than spending a fortune on UK rental costs and eating out, couldn't you get good health insurance and continue the teaching work in Asia?

I'm not planning on going back to UK for my final year's, it's too cold, miserable and woke/islamic for me.

I'm in the UK now, and my 6 weeks experience of the UK has persuaded me to return back to south-east Asia!

Yes, I have a $400k medical insurance policy for south-east Asia.

29 minutes ago, simon43 said:

I'm in the UK now, and my 6 weeks experience of the UK has persuaded me to return back to south-east Asia!

Yes, I have a $400k medical insurance policy for south-east Asia.

What about the rental contract you signed ?

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