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I can't take it anymore..............

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Chaiyaphum Immigration…..three hour round trip each time.

Application rejected: Photo in front of house doesn’t show the whole front of the house. It is the backdrop, but roof and end walls clipped off.

Back home take a new photo.

Application rejected: You are wearing a different T shirt.

Back home take new photos.

Application rejected: Bank letter is now a day old….off to the bank.

Application rejected: Address on wife’s ID don’t tally with her Tabien Baan

Back home, Amphur, new ID.

Application rejected: You haven’t completed the new Community Attestation form. Back home. Need two villagers, same village to witness documents and consent to copies of IDs.

I am now on my last few days and looking at flights to Manila to avoid an overstay and reapply from there for a new Non-O……or just stay there?

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    I have two Thai wives, so if one does not get me approved for the marriage visa, I have a backup. So far, everything is going well. Maybe it is her nice smile in the house photos. She is missing a few

  • IMHO They are sending you a message....get an agent so they get theirs & your life will be like a unicorn crapping rainbows 😉

  • And yet hundreds of folk do extensions every day based on marriage with zero issues. Let alone resort to rants

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Thanks for another warning about marriage extension.

I could do but it's the absolute last resort.

The house photo stuff is pure harassment.

Didn't know that Chaiyaphum is that bad.

Manila wouldn't be my alternative 😊

Wife not having updated her ID sounds so familiar and a no go for immigration. Typical let it be (ours have "lost/can't find housebook", no hurry to visit amphoe).

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In CM I hand them a bag of photos and they take the ones they want.

Not sure why they try to make repeat extensions so hard.

There must be loads of terrorists trying for repeat marriage extensions.

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I have two Thai wives, so if one does not get me approved for the marriage visa, I have a backup. So far, everything is going well. Maybe it is her nice smile in the house photos. She is missing a few teeth, but as long as the picture is not a dramatic close up, we are calling it a full set.

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IMHO They are sending you a message....get an agent so they get theirs & your life will be like a unicorn crapping rainbows 😉

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3 hours ago, MIke B Bad said:

Chaiyaphum Immigration…..three hour round trip each time.

Application rejected: Photo in front of house doesn’t show the whole front of the house. It is the backdrop, but roof and end walls clipped off.

Back home take a new photo.

Application rejected: You are wearing a different T shirt.

Back home take new photos.

Application rejected: Bank letter is now a day old….off to the bank.

Application rejected: Address on wife’s ID don’t tally with her Tabien Baan

Back home, Amphur, new ID.

Application rejected: You haven’t completed the new Community Attestation form. Back home. Need two villagers, same village to witness documents and consent to copies of IDs.

I am now on my last few days and looking at flights to Manila to avoid an overstay and reapply from there for a new Non-O……or just stay there?

Jeeezus man , I thought I had been messed about the other year on my Retirement renewal , but nothing as petty and absurd as this.

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This is a past post from a few years ago when I was still using the marriage visa, which I now refuse to apply for, having switched to the retirement visa which is infinitely easier.

Recently returned from immigration, after renewing my marriage visa. The upside to this visa, is that only 400,000 is needed as a deposit, and it does not have to stay in the bank, once your visa is granted. The downsides are:

The hurdles you need to jump over, in order to get a marriage visa are stupid, ridiculous, unnecessary, draconian, wasteful, and silly.

I understand the need for them to verify that you are a legitimate couple. Upon the first application.

But, the dumb requirements should not relate to renewals. You should not be required to show fresh images of the house each time, copies of the marriage papers, the house documents, either come with a local Thai witness, or bring a signed affidavit from a local Thai each time, provide new maps to the house, and dozens of other requirements.

I just do not even know what to say about the process. I felt like a very unwanted expat by the time I left. After hours of paperwork, copy after copy after copy, each page having to be signed, and then being grilling by the surly officer, I literally felt like a street dog. The level of disrespect that immigration shows married couples here, and foreigners in general, is totally uncalled for, beyond the pale, and inane. The copy woman, the guy sorting our papers, they were all nice. But, the officers? Such sourpusses.

The woman who was helping us was so difficult to work with, when she finally rejected us over the tiniest thing she did not like, after nearly an hour of reviewing every document with a microscope, so to speak, and said no, I responded by saying YES, YES, you are going to do this. YES , you are going to do this right now. YES, you are going to stop saying NO to me right now. This ends now. I was so angry I was screaming at her, so everybody in the immigration office turned and looked at what was going on including the manager. She looked at me and did not know what to say, as I had totally shut down her ridiculousness. I asked for the manager. The big boss came over, I explained the abuse we had been getting, and we had it sorted in 30 minutes. Took nearly 3 hours total. And as usual, it was a month, until I had final approval. Is it worth it? NO. Was that my last marriage visa. Yes. I will go back to a retirement visa next year, or leave the country, before I subject myself to that abuse one more time.

Frankly, I think at least some of this comes from the rather extreme level of xenophobia and the toxic racism of the government. It filters down throughout the government. I do not think they want us here. And making these procedures difficult is one way of expressing that. 

 

Fortunately, I feel very little of that sentiment from the non governmental Thai people. 

 

I still love it here. The extreme heat in the hot season and the horrific air quality in the cool season are definitely issues for me. If I had the required cash, I would likely buy a farm with 20 rai of land in SW Italy, and spend 5 months of the year there, a few months traveling, a month in the US (family and work), and two to three months of the year here. But I don't have the budget for that and my life here is quite good, so I'm here to stay.

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56 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

....I responded by saying YES, YES, you are going to do this. YES , you are going to do this right now. YES, you are going to stop saying NO to me right now. This ends now. I was so angry I was screaming at her, so everybody in the immigration office turned and looked at what was going on including the manager

And yet hundreds of folk do extensions every day based on marriage with zero issues.

Let alone resort to rants

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2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

And yet hundreds of folk do extensions every day based on marriage with zero issues.

Let alone resort to rants

Some people are more patient than others, and after many years of abuse my patience ran short when it comes to immigration. Zero tolerance for nonsense these days.

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8 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Some people are more patient than others, and after many years of abuse my patience ran short when it comes to immigration. Zero tolerance for nonsense these days.

Replaced "Immigration" with "Spidey" in your comment.

Fully agree now.🙃🙃

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4 minutes ago, Lucky Bones said:

Replaced "Immigration" with "Spidey" in your comment.

Fully agree now.🙃🙃

There is always room for humor, so kudos to you for bringing a smile to my face.

Somebody pissed someone off at Imm Office.

25+ yrs, and none that picky about anything, during marriage, support of Thai or retirement extensions at Nong Khai, Udon Thani or Hua Hin IOs. Along with letting a few things slide, that they didn't have to, knowing I travelled a bit to get there.

22 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

There is always room for humor, so kudos to you for bringing a smile to my face.

Cheers Spidey.😀

Have a good one.🙃🙃

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5 hours ago, MIke B Bad said:

Chaiyaphum Immigration…..three hour round trip each time.

Application rejected: Photo in front of house doesn’t show the whole front of the house. It is the backdrop, but roof and end walls clipped off.

Back home take a new photo.

I know it is too late for you now but in future I would suggest to everyone that when IO gives a rejection you don't just get up and walk away to fix that one item but get the IO to go through ALL the docs there and then and prevent the return visits!

Got mine this week, went in there today to check if anything has changed or anything new needed. Whats the odds the one that said NO, all same- got it right ?

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9 hours ago, NE1 said:

Jeeezus man , I thought I had been messed about the other year on my Retirement renewal , but nothing as petty and absurd as this.

Close to tears......so glad the wife won't let me have a gun......555

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11 hours ago, BritManToo said:

In CM I hand them a bag of photos and they take the ones they want.

Not sure why they try to make repeat extensions so hard.

There must be loads of terrorists trying for repeat marriage extensions.

That's what crossed my mind to do.....!!! Every conceivable angle....fill your boots take what you want.

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11 hours ago, blaze master said:

Nice to see you back will. Hows the daeng?

Exciting as ever.....in BKK now facing another nightmare.....Bangkok Bank closed down app and online purchasing and applying for wife's UK visa.......never rains, but it pours.

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9 hours ago, mania said:

IMHO They are sending you a message....get an agent so they get theirs & your life will be like a unicorn crapping rainbows 😉

Had a look that......can't find any advertising.....might have to actually ask them!!!!

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6 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

I know it is too late for you now but in future I would suggest to everyone that when IO gives a rejection you don't just get up and walk away to fix that one item but get the IO to go through ALL the docs there and then and prevent the return visits!

Spot on...words of wisdom that I don't possess..

1 minute ago, MIke B Bad said:

Spot on...words of wisdom that I don't possess..

You do now!

😅

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43 minutes ago, MIke B Bad said:

Had a look that......can't find any advertising.....might have to actually ask them!!!!

Most agents do not deal with marriage extensions. They will just switch you to retirement extension.

With such an incomplete and incorrect set of documents, what else did you expect.

First extension application?

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In challenging moments like these one must consult the ancient expat rulebook, which clearly states that every foreigner related problem in Thailand begins with boarding the plane.

The same rulebook also notes that if you submit the same documents five times and receive five different outcomes, the real mistake was expecting the same answer twice.

18 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Recently returned from immigration, after renewing my marriage visa. The upside to this visa, is that only 400,000 is needed as a deposit, and it does not have to stay in the bank, once your visa is granted. The downsides are:

The hurdles you need to jump over, in order to get a marriage visa are stupid, ridiculous, unnecessary, draconian, wasteful, and silly.

I understand the need for them to verify that you are a legitimate couple. Upon the first application.

But, the dumb requirements should not relate to renewals. You should not be required to show fresh images of the house each time, copies of the marriage papers, the house documents, either come with a local Thai witness, or bring a signed affidavit from a local Thai each time, provide new maps to the house, and dozens of other requirements.

I just do not even know what to say about the process. I felt like a very unwanted expat by the time I left. After hours of paperwork, copy after copy after copy, each page having to be signed, and then being grilling by the surly officer, I literally felt like a street dog. The level of disrespect that immigration shows married couples here, and foreigners in general, is totally uncalled for, beyond the pale, and inane. The copy woman, the guy sorting our papers, they were all nice. But, the officers? Such sourpusses.

The woman who was helping us was so difficult to work with, when she finally rejected us over the tiniest thing she did not like, after nearly an hour of reviewing every document with a microscope, so to speak, and said no, I responded by saying YES, YES, you are going to do this. YES , you are going to do this right now. YES, you are going to stop saying NO to me right now. This ends now. I was so angry I was screaming at her, so everybody in the immigration office turned and looked at what was going on including the manager. She looked at me and did not know what to say, as I had totally shut down her ridiculousness. I asked for the manager. The big boss came over, I explained the abuse we had been getting, and we had it sorted in 30 minutes. Took nearly 3 hours total. And as usual, it was a month, until I had final approval. Is it worth it? NO. Was that my last marriage visa. Yes. I will go back to a retirement visa next year, or leave the country, before I subject myself to that abuse one more time.

Frankly, I think at least some of this comes from the rather extreme level of xenophobia and the toxic racism of the government. It filters down throughout the government. I do not think they want us here. And making these procedures difficult is one way of expressing that. 

 

Fortunately, I feel very little of that sentiment from the non governmental Thai people. 

 

I still love it here. The extreme heat in the hot season and the horrific air quality in the cool season are definitely issues for me. If I had the required cash, I would likely buy a farm with 20 rai of land in SW Italy, and spend 5 months of the year there, a few months traveling, a month in the US (family and work), and two to three months of the year here. But I don't have the budget for that and my life here is quite good, so I'm here to stay.

Why visa and not extension ?

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19 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

And yet hundreds of folk do extensions every day based on marriage with zero issues.

Let alone resort to rants

And with a quote like that. you don't stay in Thailand on a marriage extension.

Do You?

Just because many, many folk don't get on AN and complain doesn't mean ist's not a problem for foreigners

29 minutes ago, ozfarang said:

Just because many, many folk don't get on AN and complain doesn't mean ist's not a problem for foreigners

What I do read on AN is many many reports of extension marriage with zero issues.

No doubt there are some recalcitrant immigration officers and that's an issue. However with 75+ offices suggest most have simple set rules to meet.

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I did my marriage renewal 2 days ago. Rejected house photo due to not getting whole house in. Luckily Im only 15 minutes away from immigration

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