Seems like Trump is not a negotiator as i suspected

3 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

There will be no regime change as long no israeli or u.s. boots are on the ground in Iran.

That‘s just the way it is.

I keep reminding my fellow Americans of this and know nothing good can come of this War.

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the dear leader ayatollah didnt have any nukes at the ready to deter US. som nam na

1 hour ago, connda said:

I personally don't support war in any form by any country against another. This current war of aggression against Iran is needless. I understand "why" it's happening. It has nothing to do with nuclear enrichment or ICBM or women wearing hijabs. It has everything to do with the 1979 Islamic Revolution which was a direct response to the 1953 British/US intelligence overthrow of Iranian Prime Minister, Mohammad Mossadegh for the benefit of British Petroleum.
This current war is for the same purposes as the 1953 overthrow of the Iranian government with the same goals in mind. All US/Western wars of aggression are imperial and colonial in nature: tie up land and resources for the benefit of Western corporations. And here we are again.

This will not end well for anyone, and those who are cheer-leading the war and the assassination are fools.

Of course you are, dear person.

Adolf Hitler publicly “predicted” the destruction of the Jews of Europe before the mass extermination began. I looked it up... The most well-known statement is from a speech he gave to the Reichstag on January 30, 1939.

From CHATGPT: Hitler quoted...

“If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the Bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation (Vernichtung) of the Jewish race in Europe.”

Hmmm. Imagine that. NOBODY WANTED TO SUPPORT A WAR IN ANY FORM AGAINST ANY COUNTRY AGAINST ANOTHER. 😇

By 1942, Auschwitz was operating at capacity. 😱

The islamists in Iran have pushed a public threat of Jewish genocide that has built momentum for decades. Do you think the ayatollah, who now rests in pieces, and all his true believers would never use nuclear extortion or even physically nuke Israel to bring their islamic savior into the world? Yeah. Check it out yourself. Something about the last imam or something like that. Oh, I'll just give it to you and I'm not denigrating anything, just quoting.

Regarding Imam al-Zaman (Imam of the Age):

“The Hour will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say: O Muslim, O servant of God, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him — except the gharqad tree…”

Sahih al-Bukhari

And yes — Ruhollah Khomeini, the ayatollah of rock and rollah, Supreme Leader of Iran, absolutely believed in Imam al-Zaman, who in Twelver Shia Islam is Muhammad al-Mahdi, the Hidden Imam.

Iran’s Revolutionary Guards (IRGC) commander said as recently as February 2026 that “We will destroy Israel,” explicitly invoking the goal of eliminating the Israeli state.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202602246511

So for 47 years of death threats against Jews and Israel, along with real action towards that end, it takes the 47th President to punch the out of control bully hard in the nose to stop the dangerous and inevitable islamic solution to the "Jewish" problem. No. I don't see it from your point of view. Human nature is intrinsically fallen and corrupted and will always be problematic. To stay alive, PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH works.

3 hours ago, riclag said:

rtThe good ole days before religious fanatics turned terrorist sponsors took control

google ai overview:

"Before the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Iran underwent a rapid modernization process under Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, aiming to turn the nation into a secular, Western-oriented, and industrialized power. This period, often remembered nostalgically, was characterized by significant, though uneven, economic growth, expanded rights for women, and, for the urban middle class, a lifestyle similar to that of Western nations".

Let's not try to rewrite history and portray the Shah as some sort of popular hero. In reality, he was a weak, authoritarian, anti-democratic narcissist, who came to power via a coup and was deposed as a result of a popular uprising.

What followed was worse, but Iran was no beacon to the world under the Shah's rule either.

20 minutes ago, RayC said:

Let's not try to rewrite history and portray the Shah as some sort of popular hero. In reality, he was a weak, authoritarian, anti-democratic narcissist, who came to power via a coup and was deposed as a result of a popular uprising.

The Islamists and the Marxists joined forces to depose him.

And Israel is just starting to get some of it‘s own medicine…

Rocket hits Tel Aviv – “completely destroyed house here” +++

Ballistic missiles struck Israel in four different locations. Increasingly large salvos were fired in retaliatory attacks, overwhelming Israeli air defenses in some areas. One woman died from her injuries.

What a great idea of Trump to start war without reason.

Emmm, sorry, I forgot

Trump - Epstein

2 hours ago, Schoggibueb said:

The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps pledges revenge and says it has launched attacks on 27 bases hosting US troops in the Middle East, as well as Israeli military facilities in Tel Aviv. Explosions continue to be heard in Qatar and the UAE.

Source: Al Jazeera

Nothing found so far. But if Iran can keep up the pace there will be sooner or later.

Might be a good idea for David Letterman to lay low for a while…

15 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

The Islamists and the Marxists joined forces to depose him.

The uprising certainly included Marxists and Islamists, but it also included peasants, merchants, academics, etc.

Basically, the Shah was despised by all the Iranian population except for his favoured few.

12 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Dead as a doornail. Its all over but the shouting.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/irans-supreme-leader-ali-khamenei-dead-after-idf-strike-hits-tehran-compound-israeli-source-confirms

Payback is a biatch

The Ayatollah Khamenei, who ruled since 1989, issued a religious fatwa in the mid-1990s and reaffirmed in 2003, declaring the production, stockpiling, and use of nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction as haram, or forbidden under Islamic law.

With the successful assassination of Khamenei, so goes the fatwa. Don't be surprised if his predecessor chooses a different path regarding nuclear weapons considering the unending Israeli and US aggression against Iran. Does any Western nation attack North Korea? No. There is a reason.

As the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for. You may get it.

4 minutes ago, connda said:

The Ayatollah Khamenei, who ruled since 1989, issued a religious fatwa in the mid-1990s and reaffirmed in 2003, declaring the production, stockpiling, and use of nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction as haram, or forbidden under Islamic law.

With the successful assassination of Khamenei, so goes the fatwa. Don't be surprised if his predecessor chooses a different path regarding nuclear weapons considering the unending Israeli and US aggression against Iran. Does any Western nation attack North Korea? No. There is a reason.

As the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for. You may get it.

Aha. So you're the one that believed that!

12 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

And Israel is just starting to get some of it‘s own medicine…

Rocket hits Tel Aviv – “completely destroyed house here” +++

Ballistic missiles struck Israel in four different locations. Increasingly large salvos were fired in retaliatory attacks, overwhelming Israeli air defenses in some areas. One woman died from her injuries.

What a great idea of Trump to start war without reason.

Emmm, sorry, I forgot

Trump - Epstein

He has his reasons but they are different than what he has said.

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

He has his reasons but they are different than what he has said.

Since when did he ever tell the truth about the reason what he is - or has been - doing?

We all know that only lies come out of his mouth as soon as he opens it.

Just now, Schoggibueb said:

Since when did he ever tell the truth about the reason what he is - or has been - doing?

We all know that only lies come out of his mouth as soon as he opens it.

This is a weird case though. There might (probably not) ultimately be a good result from this for the people of Iran and it's also a good thing in general for the Iranian military to be weakened. So sometimes people do good things for bad reasons.

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Joy in the streets of Tehran!!!!!

But this is only the (very dangerous) beginning of nobody yet knows what.

I can understand that. Imagine the tens of millions of patriotic Americans who would celebrate a move by Canada or Denmark or another former ally to take out the US' self-proclaimed 'supreme leader' ("Article 2 says I can do whatever I want").

1 minute ago, Wingate said:

I can understand that. Imagine the tens of millions of patriotic Americans who would celebrate a move by Canada or Denmark or another former ally to take out the US' self-proclaimed 'supreme leader' ("Article 2 says I can do whatever I want").

I don't want to go there but there is no doubt that when Trump is out of power however that happens the majority of Americans will be in a happy place.

Just now, Jingthing said:

I don't want to go there but there is no doubt that when Trump is out of power however that happens the majority of Americans will be in a happy place.

Or there's always the ballot box. You know, to democratically remove a leader the majority dont want. Worth a try? Better than continued lefty assassination porn.

1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Or there's always the ballot box. You know, to democratically remove a leader the majority dont want. Worth a try? Better than continued lefty assassination porn.

Trump as you know is against democracy if he doesn't like the result. Anyway he can't run for a third term. His time in power will end, one way or another.

2 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Better than continued lefty assassination porn.

Could you explain your last scentence?

…“lefty assassination porn“.

Jeez, from what kinda handbook you got such an expression?

Domestic Antifa terrorists maybe?! Or MAGA related?

Just asking for a friend.

Analysts were a bit surprised that this attack started in daylight hours. Now we know why. The senior leadership were taken out right here. Big time intelligence operation in real time. Mossad with possibly CIA involvement. I still can't believe the senior leadership would be foolish enough to all meet together in one big targetable and easily taken out site.

Worst case scenario the IRGC takes control in a military coup.

Missile and drone attack.

https://www.tzevaadom.co.il/en/

11 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Iran hasn't confirmed but it seems to be the case. I find it incomprehensible that he wasn't hiding deep underground rather than being in his compound.

Time for the left now to start screaming this was ILLEGAL.

a dictator's move without congress approval that's how the left is looking at

8 hours ago, riclag said:

good point ! Is it because the EU countries have created a hotbed of anti western terror insurgence attacks?

I do think it's all Biden's fault.... but I could be wrong

1 minute ago, Mavideol said:

a dictator's move without congress approval that's how the left is looking at

Same old misconception but the left will run with it along with breaking intenational law.. Doesn't need Congessional approaval just as he didn't for Venezuela and Midnight Hammer.

5 hours ago, khaosokman said:

You must have lost your marbles. Israel is much stronger than your terrorist pals.

stop for a minute and think about how strong Israel would be without US support... think again to make sure you got it

3 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

stop for a minute and think about how strong Israel would be without US support... think again to make sure you got it

Noted but on the other hand if Israel hadn't had that alliance they could have developed other paths. Like Ukraine. The USA under Putin lover Trump cut their aid to zero. It was a shock but they've managed to hang on anyway. Israel has very skilled people, as does Ukraine.

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Analysts were a bit surprised that this attack started in daylight hours. Now we know why. The senior leadership were taken out right here. Big time intelligence operation in real time. Mossad with possibly CIA involvement. I still can't believe the senior leadership would be foolish enough to all meet together in one big targetable and easily taken out site.

Honestly, have you ever thought in your lifetime that the international left would support autocracy similar to the Ayatollah, these dictators all have something in common, Xi, Hitler, Mao, Stalin ,over a democratically elected system?

This is how terrorists wage war.