How to win a war.

- During WW2 allied forces realised that the Nazi-regime could not be eliminated by massive bombardment alone.

- Vietnam war: The most massive Air-Strikes in history. 500.000 US troops on the gound, but the South Vietnamese "boots on the ground" were never really sure why they should shoot at their northern countrymen.

And today? Once more, aireal supremacy should "win a war". A highly flawed and expensive project that has not worked in the past.

To "take out" the true rulers of Iran (the revolutiony guards) it would take "boots on the ground".

The closer the mid-term elections come, eventually Donald will declare "victory" and pull out, leaving an impoverished country behind, while the "revolutionary guuards" remain in power as before. (The real rulers of the coutry, never mind the Mullahs).

Them resuming their "nuclear ambitions" as before. A bit delayed maybe as the only result. 5 years at the most. After that, all over again, granted that the US electorate agrees and is willing to pay for it to "subdue" future Iranian "nuclear visions". An eternal 5 year cycle evolving. "Air power" alone not changing anything.

You dont understand modern airpower

30 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You dont understand modern airpower

What's to "understand" about "modern airpower"? Please enlighten us.

PS: try not to deflect.

22 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You dont understand modern airpower

The question is: Do you understand the fact that superior "air dominance" has never been a deciding factor in modern day warefare so far?

I've just seen on the news 5000 US marines are being sent. Hasn't America seen enough bodybags.

I hope the MAGA morons are proud of themselves because nobody else is nor will the families of the dead servicemen be.

13 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

What's to "understand" about "modern airpower"? Please enlighten us.

PS: try not to deflect.

Have you been watching the video? Do you read the publicly accessible reports? Do you understand how accurate they are?

11 minutes ago, swissie said:

Do you understand the fact that superior "air dominance" has never been a deciding factor in modern day warefare so far?

Well it was in Japan, but thats a digression. Remember the goals of this operation,

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Have you been watching the video? Do you read the publicly accessible reports? Do you understand how accurate they are?

Accurate? Blowing up a school and killing children was accurate?

8 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Accurate? Blowing up a school and killing children was accurate?

...............................and what about all the other missiles and bombs ?

I see a lot of people here on AN posting a lot of crap. The nearest they have ever come to war is their playstation or xbox.

War is not a game people die some horrifically peoples lives are destroyed not just the ones that die.

Some wars aren't even called wars and most people have long forgotten like Borneo Aden Oman but if you were there it would have sure felt like it.

Perhaps some people feel that if the enemy die it doesn't matter they don't count but people are pretty much the same the world over.

They have the same feelings aspirations and love for their family and friends no matter where they come from what language they speak what colour they are or what religion they believe in or don't believe.

The things that stay with me most are not just friends and colleges I lost but the grief on the faces of their families and the guilt I felt and still feel 60yrs later.

Guilt not because I could have done anything to prevent their death but because I lived and they didn't.

This latest war (because that is what it is no matter what it may be called) is and was totally unnecessary and should never have been started.

Those responsible should be put up against a wall and shot or hanged, but that will never happen only the poor sods who are sent to feed their perverse ego's will be the ones to suffer along with the thousand of innocent civilians who just want to live a normal peaceful life.

When will we ever learn to stop the madmen.

The US is expected to send a marine unit and more warships to the Middle East, two officials tell the BBC's US partner CBS news

Plans have not been confirmed but the unit, which can carry out amphibious raids, is typically made up of up to 5,000 Marines and sailors across several warships.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c4gqjyk0vx3t

24 minutes ago, bannork said:

Plans have not been confirmed but the unit, which can carry out amphibious raids, is typically made up of up to 5,000 Marines and sailors across several warships.

Kharg Island obviously.

5 hours ago, swissie said:

And today? Once more, aireal supremacy should "win a war". A highly flawed and expensive project that has not worked in the past.

Come now, surely you are not doubting the "putting a bomb in a pickle barrel" claim which has been around since the 1930s. An article of faith for those magnificent men in their flying machined (not just those of the various US air arms to be fair). Just because it didnt work in World War 2, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and now the pickle barrel in Iran is proving to be illusive, doesnt mean that bombing the living daylights out of a civilian population, with massive air delivered firepower is not an effective way of convincing them of the righteousness of your cause, nor a means of ensuring democracy and peace for generations to come!

Besides it makes for some great TV for the more atavistic!

Have faith...

5 hours ago, Yagoda said:

You dont understand modern airpower

And you understand war? Not typewriter wars, but real wars? Wars that involves human beings?

You can bomb a city, but you cant hold a city with bombs. You can hold a city, but you cant take over a country! A winner of a war controls infrastructure and logistics as a few key elements, and next is the people. Big Satan will always be Usa and Israel for Irani people. Good luck with that mentality.

Invasion wars is difficult if you do not win over the people straight away, almost a good blue print was Iraq, but still 50% is not happy, and also why Isis became a real problem.

If Irani falls, and you think Isis was bad, just wait and see, there is so many who are ready to pick up arms all over middle east, and restart what was once a new Islam state. Count the countries bombed and intervened by Uk, Usa and Israel the last 4 decades, and you will have an estimate for what will happen. Now all this countries have their people spread out all over the world, ready to finance and support, as well do a little terror here and there just to keep us busy.