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Do expats in Thailand see relationships differently over time?

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7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

You've told us all, many times, about your life and what you've done.

And it's always turned out to be an epic fail, even with God's help.

Almost all relationships end, so it's not all about failing but not being the right one for the long term. That I had children that are now here and doing well, is hardly a failure.

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    Sounds like another thinly veiled rent versus own topic. Certainly not the first and definitely won't be the last.

  • BilllyGOAT
    BilllyGOAT

    I don't think I've ever bonked a woman that age. I'd be surprised if I could rise to the occasion, unless of course I viewed it as being some kind of kinky fetish. Like cougar porn. 😬🤣

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    Damaged goods. Sounds wonderful. Send me a postcard from heaven. 🤣 Here is my mailing address: 69 Soi Nana, Bang-Kok, Thailand 10110

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8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

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You’re talking about women in the plural, but how long do they actually stay with you? Do you get tired of them, or do they eventually realize you’re not bringing anything meaningful to the table?

It sounds more like you’re exploiting women who, culturally, may be raised to depend on a strong man. You seem stuck in the same pattern. No matter what alias you use, you bring this up in every thread about relationships.

Maybe it’s time to reinvent yourself. You’re not married. You only have a girlfriend, and at this stage she may not expect much from you yet. But can you step up when it really matters?

Can you become a responsible man and a real future partner for a woman?

I mentioned eleven years earlier. Is that long enough for you?

No we aren't tired of each other, but continually discovering new things.

If it sounds like I'm exploiting women, that's simply a creation of your own. Perhaps you can think about why you have created that, for yourself.

What pattern is it that you feel that I have created? Long term relationships, not based on money. One that continuously supports and grows. If that's a pattern, would you not agree that it is a positive one?

No need for me to be married. If there was some benefit for us, then we would consider that, as a team.

I 'step up' every day. My partner can answer that for you. She's right here.

I am already a responsible man and a partner right now. Future is now.

Answered all your questions or do you have more?

I should add, for the purposes of disclosure, that my partner is a qualified counsellor, amongst other qualifications, so she will have her own opinion on the behaviour of some here.

12 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

I mentioned eleven years earlier. Is that long enough for you?

No we aren't tired of each other, but continually discovering new things.

Fred only ever managed 8 years!

Sounds like he should be listening to your advice.

8 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

I mentioned eleven years earlier. Is that long enough for you?

No we aren't tired of each other, but continually discovering new things.

If it sounds like I'm exploiting women, that's simply a creation of your own. Perhaps you can think about why you have created that, for yourself.

What pattern is it that you feel that I have created? Long term relationships, not based on money. One that continuously supports and grows. If that's a pattern, would you not agree that it is a positive one?

No need for me to be married. If there was some benefit for us, then we would consider that, as a team.

I 'step up' every day. My partner can answer that for you. She's right here.

I am already a responsible man and a partner right now. Future is now.

Answered all your questions or do you have more?

I should add, for the purposes of disclosure, that my partner is a qualified counsellor, amongst other qualifications, so she will have her own opinion on the behaviour of some here.

Well done, you should be proud of yourself, so excuse my ignorance, when I thought you mentioned more than one women in your reply:

«If I was unable to treat women well, then why do they stick with me»

15 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Fred only ever managed 8 years!

Sounds like he should be listening to your advice.

8 years with abusive women is too long wouldn't you say? I only "lasted" because there were children involved, and being with me is a more stable environment. His advice? Funny you would stick up for his ways, especially after seeing his reputation here and how he relates to others, especially when they prove him wrong. Believing what he says here is quite naive, especially seeing how he talks about all his women paying for him. Remember I'm not a P4P man, preferring women who are at least somewhat normal, at least as far as not paying for the sex is concerned. That I picked a couple who aren't stable and had children with them is on me, but how they acted was on them.

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25 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

I mentioned eleven years earlier. Is that long enough for you?

No we aren't tired of each other, but continually discovering new things.

If it sounds like I'm exploiting women, that's simply a creation of your own. Perhaps you can think about why you have created that, for yourself.

What pattern is it that you feel that I have created? Long term relationships, not based on money. One that continuously supports and grows. If that's a pattern, would you not agree that it is a positive one?

No need for me to be married. If there was some benefit for us, then we would consider that, as a team.

I 'step up' every day. My partner can answer that for you. She's right here.

I am already a responsible man and a partner right now. Future is now.

Answered all your questions or do you have more?

I should add, for the purposes of disclosure, that my partner is a qualified counsellor, amongst other qualifications, so she will have her own opinion on the behaviour of some here.

Let her read ALL of your replies to many here, in this username and all the other multiple personalities you've shown. I bet she gets a kick out of that, before she hits the door. Whoever you are girl, take notice, especially if you're a counselor.

You acting innocent is part of your bipolar character here, acting like a nutcase, assuming you know what others do in their lives, then turning the truth they tell you around to suit your own agenda. Deflecting and gaslighting to fill that narrative. I'm sure she can understand what that entails, as I did two years ago when you started this, and know full well your personality disorder, having learned about it from 30 years of research. I hope she can read English.

As far as Hummin's reply, you said you were with this one woman 11 years, and not 11 years earlier, so your dating others means just how it sounds.

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33 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

My partner can answer that for you. She's right here.

Put her on AN so we can speak to her directly.

Ask her to create an account.

11 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Put her on AN so we can speak to her directly.

Ask her to create an account.

He left, likely running after her after she read the truth I posted about him.

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Shes beautiful and over 50. Look at any woman over 50 and then you'll know. Asian woman look good longer than many other nationalities, but quickly lose it after 50. More western women exercise and eat healthier than Thais. You don't compare young to old. You look at what they'll look like after 30, 40 and 50.

She looks like a million other women her age.

3 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

Nothing much appealing about her at all compared to young attractive asian women.

And when you look yourself in the mirror, and your wife or gf look at you, or even your ? What do you see in the mirror looking back at you?

I Im quite sure there is no Brad Pit or Tom Cruise among us here,

40 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

She looks like a million other women her age.

And lime a million women on her age, do look good and are great partners in comparison to many younger women

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1 hour ago, IsmeUno said:

I mentioned eleven years earlier. Is that long enough for you?

No we aren't tired of each other, but continually discovering new things.

If it sounds like I'm exploiting women, that's simply a creation of your own. Perhaps you can think about why you have created that, for yourself.

What pattern is it that you feel that I have created? Long term relationships, not based on money. One that continuously supports and grows. If that's a pattern, would you not agree that it is a positive one?

No need for me to be married. If there was some benefit for us, then we would consider that, as a team.

I 'step up' every day. My partner can answer that for you. She's right here.

I am already a responsible man and a partner right now. Future is now.

Answered all your questions or do you have more?

I should add, for the purposes of disclosure, that my partner is a qualified counsellor, amongst other qualifications, so she will have her own opinion on the behaviour of some here.

That seems authentic and I enjoyed the read. Why stalk freddie? I never have met a person that is as succesful in relationships as you state you are that pounces on those that are challenged. Either your full of it or you are different than the normal AN psoter. Not judging but curious why you feel compelled to bring down Freddie while you are in a near ideal relationship. Something is not jiving...

21 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

That I picked a couple who aren't stable and had children with them is on me, but how they acted was on them.

4 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

The women in the gyms weren't the only ones I observed in 50 years. i did go outside once in awhile. I know full well how many people are overweight, as again, being in the fitness business, you tend to read a lot about all aspects of lifestyles, diets and exercise habits. What was the opinion i stated? I said that picture I posted was of a beautiful woman over 50, and it's true.

I guess you were not a good picker then.

A statistical sample of one proves nothing.

Here's a simple experiment for you. Sit in any shopping mall in America, and count up the number of beached whales you see masquerading as females for one hour.

Then do the same in Thailand.

Report back to this thread with the data.

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

You might consider investing in new glasses.

Or meeting them in person rather than relying on filtered photos.

When I was still active in P4P, I spent a night with a woman, based on her online photo.

She looked quite pretty in the photo. In the flesh, she was stunning.

To complete the night, she was also a cracker in bed.

She dropped off the internet shortly afterwards, so I guess she found a permanent arrangement.

15 hours ago, BilllyGOAT said:

Damaged goods. Sounds wonderful. Send me a postcard from heaven. 🤣

Here is my mailing address:

69 Soi Nana, Bang-Kok, Thailand 10110

P. R. I. Ck

16 hours ago, BilllyGOAT said:

Sounds like another thinly veiled rent versus own topic. Certainly not the first and definitely won't be the last.

Rent, own?

Prostitute or genuine love.

7 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I guess you were not a good picker then.

A statistical sample of one proves nothing.

Here's a simple experiment for you. Sit in any shopping mall in America, and count up the number of beached whales you see masquerading as females for one hour.

Then do the same in Thailand.

Report back to this thread with the data.

I lived in the US for 62 years, and here over 8. It doesn't take long to see what's obvious. I said earlier, look at how a woman looks after 50 here and wasn't talking about the body as much as the face and skin.

Obesity is higher now in the US of course, as that's where most of the junk food is, but Thailand's slowly catching up. Even when I first moved here, there weren't as many overweight as there is now. The level here used to be in the less than 10% but now is way up to almost 50%. The childhood level has doubled in the last two decades here also. This is going to be the future here, especially with all the rice eating, along with the sugar drinks and snacks given to children at the school events.

I've been in the gym business most of my life, and know full well how many there are who need to lose weight, both in the gyms and outside. People who work out are more aware of this in general, and as a trainer myself for many years even more.

Yes, I didn't choose well in the couple women I've had children with.

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

I lived in the US for 62 years, and here over 8. It doesn't take long to see what's obvious. I said earlier, look at how a woman looks after 50 here and wasn't talking about the body as much as the face and skin.

Obesity is higher now in the US of course, as that's where most of the junk food is, but Thailand's slowly catching up. Even when I first moved here, there weren't as many overweight as there is now. The level here used to be in the less than 10% but now is way up to almost 50%. The childhood level has doubled in the last two decades here also. This is going to be the future here, especially with all the rice eating, along with the sugar drinks and snacks given to children at the school events.

I've been in the gym business most of my life, and know full well how many there are who need to lose weight, both in the gyms and outside. People who work out are more aware of this in general, and as a trainer myself for many years even more.

Yes, I didn't choose well in the couple women I've had children with.

The overweight and obese rate in Thailand for women is 45%. In the USA it is 70%.

You have posted a single photo of a woman, top half only. For all I know, she has a backside on her like Elizabeth the cow.

Your prolix and repetitive postings suggest to me you have nothing better to do with your time.

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

Just now, Lacessit said:

The overweight and obese rate in Thailand for women is 45%. In the USA it is 70%.

You have posted a single photo of a woman, top half only. For all I know, she has a backside on her like Elizabeth the cow.

Your prolix and repetitive postings suggest to me you have nothing better to do with your time.

Just now, Lacessit said:

The overweight and obese rate in Thailand for women is 45%. In the USA it is 70%.

You have posted a single photo of a woman, top half only. For all I know, she has a backside on her like Elizabeth the cow.

Your prolix and repetitive postings suggest to me you have nothing better to do with your time.

Why are you still coming back when you obviously must know, seeing I've been involved in this type of business, that I already know what you posted?

All I did was post two pictures. I tried to put both in the same reply but it didn't work, that I found in a few seconds, just to reply to the other member, that there are indeed many women over 50 who are still pretty fine.

When someone replies to me, I answer, until they get nasty and I call them out and then I'm done, as I try not to feed the trolls anymore. I don't consider you a troll, but you are opinionated and think you're always right. This doesn't bother me, as well all know our own truths. If some here didn't always assume, there would be more time for good discussions.

I am 73, she is 58, looks 40. We are in New Zealand on vacation right now. I pay for stuff like that, but she fully supports herself.

She’s solidly middle class, has a small business. Other than a little bit of Ganesh worshiping, I see no difference from the west. I am grateful to be with such a high-quality person that I could never get back in the states.

My white ex lives over here and gets approached daily by white men. She’s 60, looks 50. She’s definitely in the looks range of Fred’s picture.

Mostly, it’s guys who want to have a conversation about western stuff like current events.

My sage dating advisor over here who used to post here put it plainly:

Fulfill my need to talk about Brexit with people who don’t own vaginas for maximum expat satisfaction.

Fred:

Write shorter, write less, stop defending yourself in 500 word bursts that everyone just skims right by

I just took you off Ignore. Again.

6 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

I am 73, she is 58, looks 40. We are in New Zealand on vacation right now. I pay for stuff like that, but she fully supports herself.

She’s solidly middle class, has a small business. Other than a little bit of Ganesh worshiping, I see no difference from the west. I am grateful to be with such a high-quality person that I could never get back in the states.

My white ex lives over here and gets approached daily by white men. She’s 60, looks 50. She’s definitely in the looks range of Fred’s picture.

Mostly, it’s guys who want to have a conversation about western stuff like current events.

My sage dating advisor over here who used to post here put it plainly:

Fulfill my need to talk about Brexit with people who don’t own vaginas for maximum expat satisfaction.

Fred:

Write shorter, write less, stop defending yourself in 500 word bursts that everyone just skims right by

I just took you off Ignore. Again.

Agreed. Good that you have a good one. Understand about your ex still attracting others. Same with mine, until they know her well.

12 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Why are you still coming back when you obviously must know, seeing I've been involved in this type of business, that I already know what you posted?

All I did was post two pictures. I tried to put both in the same reply but it didn't work, that I found in a few seconds, just to reply to the other member, that there are indeed many women over 50 who are still pretty fine.

When someone replies to me, I answer, until they get nasty and I call them out and then I'm done, as I try not to feed the trolls anymore. I don't consider you a troll, but you are opinionated and think you're always right. This doesn't bother me, as well all know our own truths. If some here didn't always assume, there would be more time for good discussions.

I back up my opinions with facts. You back up your opinions with an incomplete statistical sample of one.

You have 37 posts on this thread, more than double anyone else. That fact backs up my previously posted opinion.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Agreed. Good that you have a good one. Understand about your ex still attracting others. Same with mine, until they know her well.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Agreed. Good that you have a good one. Understand about your ex still attracting others. Same with mine, until they know her well.

My ex asked me why white men in Chiang Mai keep offering her unwanted help.

I told her to look in the mirror.

She pointed to her groin and said, “ this shop is closed for good”.

A 58 year old trim woman who’s English fluent and is into me feels like the sweet spot in the cost benefit matrix

Good response, Fred.

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

I back up my opinions with facts. You back up your opinions with an incomplete statistical sample of one.

You have 37 posts on this thread, more than double anyone else. That fact backs up my previously posted opinion.

But again you keep coming back, telling me things i already knew. If you understood that I knew about obesity levels, you wouldn't have to give me those examples. and my posts would be less.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

But again you keep coming back, telling me things i already knew. If you understood that I knew about obesity levels, you wouldn't have to give me those examples. and my posts would be less.

Er-so do you. Try brevity.

Just now, Lacessit said:

Er-so do you. Try brevity.

This is what you said,............. "Here's a simple experiment for you. Sit in any shopping mall in America, and count up the number of beached whales you see masquerading as females for one hour.

Then do the same in Thailand.

Report back to this thread with the data"......................... I've told you that I've been in the gym business for 50 years, both as a trainer and always a member. Don't you think I know about how the people around me are?

Again, I posted two pictures , showing there are many women over 50 that are fine. Do I need to post more or is that example enough? I'm almost 70, and have seen millions of women, and many are still pretty fine after 50, all over the world. I'm not blind, and don't exaggerate. I don't need to post more, as I made my point.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

This is what you said,............. "Here's a simple experiment for you. Sit in any shopping mall in America, and count up the number of beached whales you see masquerading as females for one hour.

Then do the same in Thailand.

Report back to this thread with the data"......................... I've told you that I've been in the gym business for 50 years, both as a trainer and always a member. Don't you think I know about how the people around me are?

Again, I posted two pictures , showing there are many women over 50 that are fine. Do I need to post more or is that example enough? I'm almost 70, and have seen millions of women, and many are still pretty fine after 50, all over the world. I'm not blind, and don't exaggerate. I don't need to post more, as I made my point.

You stated I think I am always right. I am stating you seem to always want the last word on any topic. Have at it.

14 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Almost every post, and of course you won't see this, as a person who has NPD always blames others and deflects when called out.

That describes you perfectly. Can you really not see that?

Have you ever seen me blame any of my former partners here and not ever admit to possibly being wrong? No, you have not.

But we have seen you do it hundreds of times. That's a fact.

14 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Did you tell her you're still dating other women, and having them pay your way, after being with her 11 years? I'm thinking not.

Yes, I tell her about the people I meet. No worries, as we trust each other. Seemingly not something that you can comprehend.

14 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

I have always been good to women, right from the start. That you can't believe this obviously shows you can't fathom anyone else treating women well. I've pointed out exactly what you are since day one, and of course you'll never admit this, as your character never does.

I think that you believe it, but your history and behaviour here indicates that certain aspects of your are out of your control.

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