34 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

It is possible the hundreds of absurd anti Trump/anti America/anti democracy threads started daily have led to severe fatigue, and other than the clique of fellow diehard irrational Trump haters I'd wager most of these nonsensical threads go ignored. So easy to miss any salient points you may have had. Just IMO

I suggest you look at online users on the top tab and see how many are logged in - they can't afford to lose any and there's hardly anybody here. It's a bit like America's friends in the world. Not many left.

8 hours ago, gargamon said:

Nothing important. The US is fighting WW II style. Iran is/will be fighting guerilla style. Didn't the US learn anything in Vietnam?

The martyr method didn't really work for Hamas did it?

5 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The martyr method didn't really work for Hamas did it?

Oh, I don't know about that.

2 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

I suggest you look at online users on the top tab and see how many are logged in - they can't afford to lose any and there's hardly anybody here. It's a bit like America's friends in the world. Not many left.

And yet, they keep demanding the USA to fund their pet causes or to bail them out of their self created problems. I did not support the Trump administration or agree with many of his policies, but I have come to see that he had a good understanding of how useless and hypocritical much of the western world is.

Just now, BLMFem said:

Oh, I don't know about that.

Warm sentiments are not putting a roof over the Gazans heads right now is it? Although, for a place supposedly suffering from an alleged genocide, its population is rapidly expanding.

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11 hours ago, Yagoda said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/experts-hate-trump-s-war-on-iran-they-re-making-seven-fatal-errors/ar-AA1ZoAa7?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=69c57c9f1dc242a2a10d661b6da23d5e&ei=19

"What is wrong with the West’s expert class? Do they really believe, as they keep telling us, that the war against Iran is a disaster, the end of days, the final humiliation for Donald Trump? Such defeatism, such catastrophism are not warranted. It is far too soon to conclude how this war will end, regardless of what Iranian propagandists and other appeasers would have us believe."

Again, as with most of the other limited number of opinion pieces I start topics with, no one here will be able to dispute the assertions therein, so expect the usual Iran/China agitprop with the boring old anti american anti trump anti semitic trolling from the usual suspects.

You won't answer questions Yagoda you deflect or simply run away from the question. Example you bragged " We have already Won " I asked a Simple straight question " What have you Won " what was your reply ? I'm still waiting. So in reality you cannot be took seriously anymore if you hide from the truth.

1 hour ago, riclag said:

You've racked up 13 thumbs down already.

It really makes one wonder who on here is actually supporting a regime that routinely has its officials and crowds chanting "Death to America" and "Death to Israel / Curse the Jews",slogans that have been a core part of their revolutionary identity for decades.

This is the same regime that arms and directs its proxies (Hezbollah, Houthis, Iraqi militias, etc.) to carry out murder and mayhem across the region, while brutally suppressing and killing its own citizens during protests.

And now they're even launching missiles and drones at countries that were trying to stay neutral or had no direct involvement.

It really makes one wonder who on here is actually supporting a regime that routinely bombs civilians whilst chanting death to all Palestinians.

This is the same regime that directs its proxy (the US) to carry out murder and mayhem across the region, while brutally suppressing and killing its own neigbours.

And now they're even launching missiles and drones at countries that were trying to stay neutral or had no direct involvement.

3 hours ago, RayC said:

There have been any number of authoritarian regimes since the 1930s and the US has cherry picked which ones are 'good' (most right-wing South American juntas) and which ones are 'bad' (most left-wing administrations anywhere), so let's not pretend that the US's actions in Iran have much to do with a philosophical dislike of authoritarianism.

The world has managed to live with Iran - albeit uncomfortably at times - since 1984 so what's changed? If as you say, it is the possibility that Iran now has enough enriched uranium to build a nuclear weapon then the question must be asked, 'How did it get to this stage?' Imo a significant contributory factor was Trump withdrawing from JCPOA, an agreement which according to the independent monitoring authority was succeeding in its' objectives e.g. to prevent Iran from developing weapons grade uranium.

This appears to be something that Trump supporters are unwilling and/or unable to acknowledge.

I'll bite ,Sounds like More appeasing aggression & murderous ways.

Its got to the stage because of far leftist appeasing terror, the oppressed Iranian state of fanatics, despite the world calling out their aggressions & murderous ways.The world has been screaming for almost 47 years.

two UN resolutions 1 in 1984 & recently in 2026.

twice a majority of USA Congress condemn the state sponsor of terror.

Try to make sense of 47 years of totalitarian / authoritarian regime existence is like making sense of Mao/Stalin/Hitler authoritarian rule.

Iran's case stands out for very specific reasons that go far beyond cherry picking. Since the 1979 revolution, this regime has been designated a State Sponsor of Terrorism by the US since 1984 it has repeatedly supported international terrorist attacks (Beirut barracks bombing, etc.) and built a network of proxies (Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, Iraqi militias) that carry out killings across the region, including against Americans and neutral countries.

It also chants 'Death to America' and 'Death to Israel' as official policy while crushing its own people in protests.The world hasn't just 'managed to live with it uncomfortably.It has dealt with 47 years of exported violence, hostage taking, and domestic repression.

Google ai overview:

"Amnesty International has documented extensive and systematic human rights violations by the Iranian government, characterizing its actions as a "ruthless campaign" and a "multi-pronged attack" on the population to maintain power. While Amnesty focuses on human rights rather than geopolitical designations, their reporting paints a picture of state-led repression often described as a "reign of terror"

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/middle-east/iran/report-iran/#:~:text=Iran%202024,treatment%20were%20widespread%20and%20systematic.

4 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

You won't answer questions Yagoda you deflect or simply run away from the question. Example you bragged " We have already Won " I asked a Simple straight question " What have you Won " what was your reply ? I'm still waiting. So in reality you cannot be took seriously anymore if you hide from the truth.

What have we won? You are kidding right? You dont read the news?

We have destroyed 99 percent of their miliitary, we have them by the throat, their nukes and missiles are gone, their ability to project any power is finished and they are about to lose their oil and whatever little they have left. WE have COMPLETE AND UNCHALLENGED control of their airspace which means WE are the effective rulers of Iran, The Gulf states are essentially militarily allied with Israel and all the oil of those countries are in our sphere of influence even more. The Chinese generals, if they havent been purged, are staring wideeyed and rewriting their aggressive plans, or they should be. Israel has attacked Russias supply lines in the Caspian so thats ongoing. Anything that sticks it to Vlad is a win. Lets not even talk about the virtually casualty free target practice we have had as well as a way to test out our new weaponry.

What have we lost? A MONTH of higher gas prices, 13 heroes, a few Israeli Arab civilians and some poor souls in the Gulf.

No Iranbot or someone spewing Iranian propaganda here can dispute any of that.

For Iran, its Spring, 1945. Not Hanoi, 1968

5 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

The biggest difference is what ever you thought of them Kennedy,Johnson,Nixon were competent human beings unlike No More Wars - Israel First Trump and his crime family.

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v23/d233

I have always supported the State of Israel, as a Congressman, Senator, as Vice President, during the years I was out of office, and as President. My support, however, has in no way been influenced by the Jewish political lobby in the United States. On the contrary, I have made it clear time and time and again to friends in the Jewish community that under no circumstances would I take a position on aid to Israel which I felt would be in conflict with the national security interests of the United States.

Well of course when your side loses, divert to your off topic Jew hatred LOL. Thats another benefit of this war, tightens our alliance with the only other planet ruling military, Israel.

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10 hours ago, JerryM said:

His Dispute This is just a variation on the late Charlie Kirk's Prove Me Wrong that stipulates everything he posts like from VD Hansen or the Telegraph editor is right just because he says so.

Not many folks proved Charlie wrong, nor Hansen.

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

What have we won? You are kidding right? You dont read the news?

We have destroyed 99 percent of their miliitary, we have them by the throat, their nukes and missiles are gone, their ability to project any power is finished and they are about to lose their oil and whatever little they have left. WE have COMPLETE AND UNCHALLENGED control of their airspace which means WE are the effective rulers of Iran, The Gulf states are essentially militarily allied with Israel and all the oil of those countries are in our sphere of influence even more. The Chinese generals, if they havent been purged, are staring wideeyed and rewriting their aggressive plans, or they should be. Israel has attacked Russias supply lines in the Caspian so thats ongoing. Anything that sticks it to Vlad is a win. Lets not even talk about the virtually casualty free target practice we have had as well as a way to test out our new weaponry.

What have we lost? A MONTH of higher gas prices, 13 heroes, a few Israeli Arab civilians and some poor souls in the Gulf.

No Iranbot or someone spewing Iranian propaganda here can dispute any of that.

For Iran, its Spring, 1945. Not Hanoi, 1968

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What a load of pathetic drivel!🤣

"We have destroyed 99 percent of their miliitary, we have them by the throat, their nukes and missiles are gone, their ability to project any power is finished and they are about to lose their oil and whatever little they have left."

You have destroyed 99% of their military?? Well boy, oh boy, that last 1% is sure fighting hard. And what nukes are you bleeting about? They don't have any nukes, and they never did!

"WE have COMPLETE AND UNCHALLENGED control of their airspace which means WE are the effective rulers of Iran"

Well, I guess someone forgot to inform the Iranians about that. And if that is the case, exactly why is Trump negotiating, and why is the SOH still closed to all vessels except for those the Iranians allow to pass??

"Lets not even talk about the virtually casualty free target practice we have had as well as a way to test out our new weaponry."

Yeah, those new Tomahawk versions sure turn little school girls into mincemeat very effectively, don't they!

"What have we lost? A MONTH of higher gas prices, 13 heroes, a few Israeli Arab civilians and some poor souls in the Gulf."

Oh, you have lost SO much more, but you're just too "intellectually limited" to realize it. But don't worry, you'll find out eventually.

4 hours ago, MIke B Bad said:

It really makes one wonder who on here is actually supporting a regime that routinely bombs civilians whilst chanting death to all Palestinians.

This is the same regime that directs its proxy (the US) to carry out murder and mayhem across the region, while brutally suppressing and killing its own neigbours.

And now they're even launching missiles and drones at countries that were trying to stay neutral or had no direct involvement.

So you cant dispute the fact that your lot lost, huh, LOL

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Well of course when your side loses, divert to your off topic Jew hatred LOL. Thats another benefit of this war, tightens our alliance with the only other planet ruling military, Israel.

You are obssesed by Jews - unhealthy I would say - most Jews I have met are smart and suceesfull and you appear to be neither. So I'm calling "fake Jews".

6 hours ago, riclag said:

You've racked up 13 thumbs down already.

That means Im right LOL

6 hours ago, RayC said:

There have been any number of authoritarian regimes since the 1930s and the US has cherry picked which ones are 'good' (most right-wing South American juntas) and which ones are 'bad' (most left-wing administrations anywhere), so let's not pretend that the US's actions in Iran have much to do with a philosophical dislike of authoritarianism.

The world has managed to live with Iran - albeit uncomfortably at times - since 1984 so what's changed? If as you say, it is the possibility that Iran now has enough enriched uranium to build a nuclear weapon then the question must be asked, 'How did it get to this stage?' Imo a significant contributory factor was Trump withdrawing from JCPOA, an agreement which according to the independent monitoring authority was succeeding in its' objectives e.g. to prevent Iran from developing weapons grade uranium.

This appears to be something that Trump supporters are unwilling and/or unable to acknowledge.

From the link below I guess that there are monitoring authorities ... and monitoring authorities.

It must, at least, be possible that Iran blindfolded the IAEA by strictly limiting where it could inspect.

https://www.hudson.org/national-security-defense/seven-myths-about-the-iran-nuclear-deal

42 minutes ago, riclag said:

I'll bite ,Sounds like More appeasing aggression & murderous ways.

Its got to the stage because of far leftist appeasing terror, the oppressed Iranian state of fanatics, despite the world calling out their aggressions & murderous ways.The world has been screaming for almost 47 years.

two UN resolutions 1 in 1984 & recently in 2026.

twice a majority of USA Congress condemn the state sponsor of terror.

Try to make sense of 47 years of totalitarian / authoritarian regime existence is like making sense of Mao/Stalin/Hitler authoritarian rule.

Iran's case stands out for very specific reasons that go far beyond cherry picking. Since the 1979 revolution, this regime has been designated a State Sponsor of Terrorism by the US since 1984 it has repeatedly supported international terrorist attacks (Beirut barracks bombing, etc.) and built a network of proxies (Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, Iraqi militias) that carry out killings across the region, including against Americans and neutral countries.

It also chants 'Death to America' and 'Death to Israel' as official policy while crushing its own people in protests.The world hasn't just 'managed to live with it uncomfortably.It has dealt with 47 years of exported violence, hostage taking, and domestic repression.

Google ai overview:

"Amnesty International has documented extensive and systematic human rights violations by the Iranian government, characterizing its actions as a "ruthless campaign" and a "multi-pronged attack" on the population to maintain power. While Amnesty focuses on human rights rather than geopolitical designations, their reporting paints a picture of state-led repression often described as a "reign of terror"

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/middle-east/iran/report-iran/#:~:text=Iran%202024,treatment%20were%20widespread%20and%20systematic.

It's not appeasing aggression and murderous ways. I am simply apportioning blame for the current situation squarely on the shoulders of Donald Trump.

As I said previously, imo the US leaving JCPOA in 2018 is the underlying reason why we are in the position we now find ourselves. There is no doubt that Iran's position hardened after the dissolution of JCPOA. Whether this would have been inevitable even if JCPOA was in operation is obviously unknown, but if it had then early action - up to and including military intervention - would have been justified and may well have had the support of Russia and China as signatories to JCPOA.

The answer to how it got to this stage - i.e. an authoritarian fundamentalist government grabbing power - had little to do with leftists appeasing terror and much to do with US and UK interference; something that is true of the wider region.

Perhaps history will be kind to Trump and conclude that he had no choice but to act now, and his actions in Iran ultimately benefitted the world. However, at this moment in time he certainly doesn't hold the moral high ground.

This is what the international left supported & appeased, America/Israel and some other brave gulf states have had enough of years & years of the same ole same ole appeasement as this article calls out Iranian extortion tactics.

"The clerical dictatorship is again doing to the world economy what it has done for decades to people, governments and entire societies, taking hostages again.About one-fifth of the world’s oil and liquefied natural gas moves through that waterway. Reuters quoted the head of Kuwait Petroleum saying Iran was “holding the world’s economy hostage.”

https://www.ncr-iran.org/en/news/terrorism-a-fundamentalism/irans-regime-runs-on-extortion/

36 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

That means Im right LOL

8 minutes ago, nauseus said:

From the link below I guess that there are monitoring authorities ... and monitoring authorities.

It must, at least, be possible that Iran blindfolded the IAEA by strictly limiting where it could inspect.

https://www.hudson.org/national-security-defense/seven-myths-about-the-iran-nuclear-deal

1 minute ago, RayC said:

It's not appeasing aggression and murderous ways. I am simply apportioning blame for the current situation squarely on the shoulders of Donald Trump.

As I said previously, imo the US leaving JCPOA in 2018 is the underlying reason why we are in the position we now find ourselves. There is no doubt that Iran's position hardened after the dissolution of JCPOA. Whether this would have been inevitable even if JCPOA was in operation is obviously unknown, but if it had then early action - up to and including military intervention - would have been justified and may well have had the support of Russia and China as signatories to JCPOA.

The answer to how it got to this stage - i.e. an authoritarian fundamentalist government grabbing power - had little to do with leftists appeasing terror and much to do with US and UK interference; something that is true of the wider region.

Perhaps history will be kind to Trump and conclude that he had no choice but to act now, and his actions in Iran ultimately benefitted the world. However, at this moment in time he certainly doesn't hold the moral high ground.

This is what the international left supported & appeased, America/Israel and some other brave gulf states have had enough of years & years of the same ole same ole appeasement as this article calls out Iranian extortion tactics.

"The clerical dictatorship is again doing to the world economy what it has done for decades to people, governments and entire societies, taking hostages again.About one-fifth of the world’s oil and liquefied natural gas moves through that waterway. Reuters quoted the head of Kuwait Petroleum saying Iran was “holding the world’s economy hostage.”

https://www.ncr-iran.org/en/news/terrorism-a-fundamentalism/irans-regime-runs-on-extortion/

4 minutes ago, RayC said:

Perhaps history will be kind to Trump and conclude that he had no choice but to act now, and his actions in Iran ultimately benefitted the world. However, at this moment in time he certainly doesn't hold the moral high ground.

Only history determines the moral high ground

26 minutes ago, nauseus said:

From the link below I guess that there are monitoring authorities ... and monitoring authorities.

It must, at least, be possible that Iran blindfolded the IAEA by strictly limiting where it could inspect.

https://www.hudson.org/national-security-defense/seven-myths-about-the-iran-nuclear-deal

Iran did not allow full inspections at all of its nuclear sites.

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6 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

You won't answer questions Yagoda you deflect or simply run away from the question. Example you bragged " We have already Won " I asked a Simple straight question " What have you Won " what was your reply ? I'm still waiting. So in reality you cannot be took seriously anymore if you hide from the truth.

See someone's Red Thumbed this, wont have a back bone to admit to it.

17 hours ago, Yagoda said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/experts-hate-trump-s-war-on-iran-they-re-making-seven-fatal-errors/ar-AA1ZoAa7?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=69c57c9f1dc242a2a10d661b6da23d5e&ei=19

"What is wrong with the West’s expert class? Do they really believe, as they keep telling us, that the war against Iran is a disaster, the end of days, the final humiliation for Donald Trump? Such defeatism, such catastrophism are not warranted. It is far too soon to conclude how this war will end, regardless of what Iranian propagandists and other appeasers would have us believe."

Again, as with most of the other limited number of opinion pieces I start topics with, no one here will be able to dispute the assertions therein, so expect the usual Iran/China agitprop with the boring old anti american anti trump anti semitic trolling from the usual suspects.

So true Yagoda, the left wing globalist socialists suffering from the syndrome want the terrorist Iranians to win this war only because it satisfies their hatred for one of the best Presidents in U.S. history. Its a mental sickness that now has been classified by the American Psychological Association to be a verified syndrome.

There's little point replying to Yagoda and the other MAGA fan boys on here, they either fully take in the B/S from the Whitehouse or they believe the Propaganda Hegseth and Trump trot out and you believe it. So tell us if there beaten with no navy, or missiles and drones because, remember your great leader told you there defeated have they not sailed or flown down the Hormuz Straight on a straffing run come on tell us.

1 minute ago, BarraMarra said:

down the Hormuz Straight

The Straight of Trump, you mean.

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

The Straight of Trump, you mean.

No, that is only how hardcore MAGA's see it. My bet is that this will be a very costly passage for US oil tankers (big oil boats as the imbecile POTUS called it) for the foreseeable future

Here is some more

https://www.city-journal.org/article/iran-war-tel-aviv-israel-damage

A report from right from on the ground, shows the barbarity of the enemy and the degradation of their abilities. Gonna beat Israel by tossing cluster bombs? The same munitions that are decreed as horrible-imperialist-American when we used them? The same munitions that even the dumbest of human beings recognizes is soley an antipersonnel weapon? The use of them here is an excellent lesson on the thinking of the mullahs and their capbilities now.....

"To pierce Israel’s air-defense system, the Iron Dome, the Islamic Republic has resorted to launching cluster rockets that disperse dozens of smaller bomblets. The bomblets are hard to intercept and have improved Iran’s hit rate.

The tradeoff is that, unlike ordinary ballistic-missile warheads, individual bomblets cannot destroy shelters. Their capacity to inflict mass casualties is therefore limited, and their use is restricted to property damage. To illustrate: one bomblet landed about 50 meters from the Airbnb at which I was staying last Sunday, destroying only the top apartment of a low-rise building and strewing rubble on an adjacent car. A conventional warhead would have wiped out the entire building and severely damaged most of the surrounding neighborhood—my apartment included."

Keep tossing me the thumbs down, losers. You keep on ignoring is a savage, theocratic terrorist government that murders its own people and hangs gays from cranes and threatens the world

Yeah, deflectors, ignore that they have declared war with us since they took power. You dont care that they have murdered our peeps, taken our folks hostages and stirred up ssh*t everywhere.

Keep telling us we are losing. Right. Be honest, you want us to lose. Thats clear. As was obvious from the first bomb being dropped, the Democrats and every Social Media jew hater they could find, clearly want the US to fail. That is especially true for the Trump haters, whose hatred of him goes beyond normal political antagonism and has become hysterical. Due to this Trump hate, anything that might be construed as a victory for Trump, even if it advances national interests or the security of the American people, is considered bad simply because his defeat is the paramount goal, along with the ultimate destruction of the USA, the elimination of the State of Israel and to many, the extermination of all jews as a bonus.

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Gonna beat Israel by tossing cluster bombs? The same munitions that are decreed as horrible-imperialist-American when we used them? The same munitions that even the dumbest of human beings recognizes is soley an antipersonnel weapon?

In a war there are no rules, Israel and the US have shown that times over already. Where were you then?