Thai protest leader told to surrender

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Thai protest leader told to surrender
By English News



BANGKOK, Dec 5 – Thailand's anti-government protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban, charged with insurrection and several other offences, is liable to a 3-15 years’ jail term while those providing him with medical treatment and shelter are also guilty of offenses, according to senior Cabinet members.

Deputy Prime Minister/Foreign Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul, newly-appointed chairman of the Centre for Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO), called on Mr Suthep to give himself up before holding future dialogues with the government.

The government can be charged with becoming Mr Suthep’s accomplice - a breach against Article 114 of the Criminal Code - if it holds talks with the protest leader, said Mr Surapong.

Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, however, held a dialogue with Mr Suthep in the presence of the country's top military brass on Sunday. Mr Surapong did not mention the Sunday talk.

Asked if the negotiation forum would not be held unless Mr Suthep surrenders, Mr Surapong said, “Yes, Mr Suthep must surrender and accept the court’s power. The insurrection charges prohibit him from leading the massive protest.”

Mr Surapong ruled out Mr Suthep’s proposed interim government under the imposition of Section 7 of the Constitution, saying it was Mr Suthep’s imagination, which he said was impossible.

However, the government is willing to listen to his proposals concerning the use of Sections 3 and 7 of the Constitution as long as it is in accord with the democratic system, he said.

Mr Surapong said he believed Cabinet members could return to work at Government House but “we will put up barricades outside the premise to be on the safe side.” (MCOT online news)


-- TNA 2013-12-05

[TVGerry]

Why should he surrender? You revoke the bail of Jatuporn first. Oh and Thaksin should surrender also.

[Farang0tang]

Providing medical treatment is an offence?

[ratcatcher]

Surapong, you know where he is, go and arrest him...................if you dare. Coming from a character of your stature sir, I find the idea quite amusing since your cousin has been giving the country the middle finger for years.

Suthep is available for arrest anytime, he was even in a closed room with the P.M. and the army chief surrounded by police officers and walked out free as a bird. Right now Suthep is extracting the urine.

This is theatrics of Shakespearean quality.

[Gsxrnz]

Surapong, you know where he is, go and arrest him...................if you dare. Coming from a character of your stature sir, I find the idea quite amusing since your cousin has been giving the country the middle finger for years.

Suthep is available for arrest anytime, he was even in a closed room with the P.M. and the army chief surrounded by police officers and walked out free as a bird. Right now Suthep is extracting the urine.

This is theatrics of Shakespearean quality.

My Good Sir!

Methinks that is a serious injustice towards Mr. Shakespeare and his literature.

[culicine]

Providing medical treatment is an offence?

Let's not stop at Suthep! How about charging the military with providing medical assistance to those mobsters who destroyed government property...and Yingluck of course. Give surapong a tissue, his nose is dripping brown..

[Tatsujin]

The hypocrisy here is breathtaking. Perhaps if Herr Thaksin returned to face HIS charges, people might be more inclined to follow the rule of law.

[ggold]

Surapong, you know where he is, go and arrest him...................if you dare. Coming from a character of your stature sir, I find the idea quite amusing since your cousin has been giving the country the middle finger for years.

Suthep is available for arrest anytime, he was even in a closed room with the P.M. and the army chief surrounded by police officers and walked out free as a bird. Right now Suthep is extracting the urine.

This is theatrics of Shakespearean quality.

Lets face it even the government are extraction the Urine, They had more than one chance to arrest Suthep, Why didn't they? So much BS in Thai polotics.

[ggold]

Providing medical treatment is an offence?

Let's not stop at Suthep! How about charging the military with providing medical assistance to those mobsters who destroyed government property...and Yingluck of course. Give surapong a tissue, his nose is dripping brown..

What government property was that? Did they burn buildings to the ground? Were they armed with automatic weapons?

[macgver]

Good to ask Khun Suthep to surrender but don't think that he will surrender even dialogue. Before dialogue, he will surely send to jail. Nobody is stupid enough to surrender. Bad strategy!

Edited December 5, 2013 by macgver

[chooka]

Isn't going to happen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWBUl7oT9sA&feature=player_detailpage

[Sing_Sling]

Why should he surrender? You revoke the bail of Jatuporn first. Oh and Thaksin should surrender also.

One has nothing to do with the other, this is a game but not a kiddies game . . .

The hypocrisy here is breathtaking. Perhaps if Herr Thaksin returned to face HIS charges, people might be more inclined to follow the rule of law.

True, but again, that's not the way it works.

If he's charged with something he should hand himself in or the police should arrest him.

This whole thing is simply so very messed up, with leaders flouting the law daily - yes, that includes Thaksin, but he is overseas thanks to someone giving him his passport to go to Beijing fr the Olympics

It didn't start with Thaksin, nor will it end when he is no longer around . . . it is in the whole fabric of society . . . disgusting

[Pib]

What about all the govt officials that periodically visit Khun Thaksan who is convicted and wanted? Nobody is charging these officials with breaking the law. Oh yea, I forgot, selective enforcement of the laws is in affect. TIT

[JoeThePoster]

....those providing him with medical treatment......are also guilty of offenses......

Sickening.

[billd766]

What about all the govt officials that periodically visit Khun Thaksan who is convicted and wanted? Nobody is charging these officials with breaking the law. Oh yea, I forgot, selective enforcement of the laws is in affect. TIT

One of those persons was Surapong (Thaksins cousin) who personally carried Thaksins NEW Thai passport to Dubai.

[DocN]

What about all the govt officials that periodically visit Khun Thaksan who is convicted and wanted? Nobody is charging these officials with breaking the law. Oh yea, I forgot, selective enforcement of the laws is in affect. TIT

Not wanting to split hairs, but since when is it a crime to fly to Dubai and meet Thaksin?

[MaxLee]

Who the hell would listen to that alien???

[ratcatcher]

Do you honestly think this pitbull

is going to listen to this poodle?

Edited December 5, 2013 by ratcatcher

[davejones]

So he's saying that Yinluck has already committed an offence by talking to him? So why hasn't she been arrested?

[kimamey]

What about all the govt officials that periodically visit Khun Thaksan who is convicted and wanted? Nobody is charging these officials with breaking the law. Oh yea, I forgot, selective enforcement of the laws is in affect. TIT

Not wanting to split hairs, but since when is it a crime to fly to Dubai and meet Thaksin?

The government can be charged with becoming Mr Suthep’s accomplice - a breach against Article 114 of the Criminal Code - if it holds talks with the protest leader, said Mr Surapong.

I don't know the wording of article 114 but if it relates to someone who is charged with or convicted of a crime then it could be a crime. It depends if it also applies to actions taking place outside the kingdom. If it doesn't then no it isn't a crime although that could be seen as splitting hairs and hypocritical at least.

Of course he made no mention of the meeting with Yingluck with the military present. Of course the reason they want him to surrender is they know what trouble it would cause if they arrested him. It wouldn't make sense for them to do that but I think they're being equally petty with this suggestion as well.

[kimamey]

What about all the govt officials that periodically visit Khun Thaksan who is convicted and wanted? Nobody is charging these officials with breaking the law. Oh yea, I forgot, selective enforcement of the laws is in affect. TIT

One of those persons was Surapong (Thaksins cousin) who personally carried Thaksins NEW Thai passport to Dubai.

Have they replied to the Ombudsman about that or have they got another 30 days ....... again?

[jdinasia]

Suthep will certainly turn himself in, when he is ready. Until then he will follow the age old tradition of ignoring the suggestions of people like Surapong.

[Artisi]

It's Ist April 24/7 at the moment, especially with clowns like Surapong being allowed anywhere near the top of the government hierarchy.

[Basil B]

Thailand's anti-government protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban, charged with insurrection and several other offences, is liable to a 3-15 years’ jail term while those providing him with medical treatment and shelter are also guilty of offenses, according to senior Cabinet members.

"while those providing him with medical treatment and shelter are also guilty of offenses" well as I see it, the current government is aiding a convicted criminal to evade judicial punishment for his crimes, is not their actions criminal too???

[Kooweerup]

Isn't going to happen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWBUl7oT9sA&feature=player_detailpage

Love it. Pretty much sums up the whole political situation at the moment.

Edited December 5, 2013 by Kooweerup

[h90]

The hypocrisy here is breathtaking. Perhaps if Herr Thaksin returned to face HIS charges, people might be more inclined to follow the rule of law.

And as Surapong is a relative of Thaksin he surely is ashamed to have a fugitive criminal in his family?

[TVGerry]

One thing does have something to do with the other actually. If you are going to enforce the law, don't do so selectively.

Why should he surrender? You revoke the bail of Jatuporn first. Oh and Thaksin should surrender also.

One has nothing to do with the other, this is a game but not a kiddies game . . .

The hypocrisy here is breathtaking. Perhaps if Herr Thaksin returned to face HIS charges, people might be more inclined to follow the rule of law.

True, but again, that's not the way it works.

If he's charged with something he should hand himself in or the police should arrest him.

This whole thing is simply so very messed up, with leaders flouting the law daily - yes, that includes Thaksin, but he is overseas thanks to someone giving him his passport to go to Beijing fr the Olympics

It didn't start with Thaksin, nor will it end when he is no longer around . . . it is in the whole fabric of society . . . disgusting

[scorecard]

What about all the govt officials that periodically visit Khun Thaksan who is convicted and wanted? Nobody is charging these officials with breaking the law. Oh yea, I forgot, selective enforcement of the laws is in affect. TIT

One of those persons was Surapong (Thaksins cousin) who personally carried Thaksins NEW Thai passport to Dubai.

Have they replied to the Ombudsman about that or have they got another 30 days ....... again?

Or put it another way. Surapong should show respect for the laws and legal process by answering the questions of the ombudsman regarding the passport issuance. If not he should be punished appropriately and as provided by the law.

By the way, a person occupying a senior ministerial post (e.g. foreign affairs) should be an upstanding example of values and a strong beacon of respect for the law. He fulfills neither.

[pkspeaker]

Thaksin did return to face his charges, he then left again fearing he would be found guilty. I think by the time this is all over Suthep's case will wind up playing out that way, he faces cahrges, delays a little, then skips out fearing he will probably lose. You can't really blame them considering Thailand has no 'white-collar' prison and political prisoners and rich people who cheated on their taxes will have to goto a tough prison for several years if they decide to do the time. It would be funny if SUthep winds up living in that same Dubian gated community that Thaksin lives in.

The hypocrisy here is breathtaking. Perhaps if Herr Thaksin returned to face HIS charges, people might be more inclined to follow the rule of law.

[crazykopite]

More importantly is the baht getting weaker with all this turmoiI, I hope so.