templedog Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Silly rabbit, the USA has been controlled by the 1%ers since its founding. The only freedom you enjoy is what the 1%ers allow you to enjoy in the USA and the rest of the world as well. The 99%ers are cannon fodder for their economic wars and slaves for their factories. And sadly the totalitarian ideology of the commie red-shirts and totalitarian ideology of the deep southern provinces would even be far worse. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Silly rabbit, the USA has been controlled by the 1%ers since its founding. The only freedom you enjoy is what the 1%ers allow you to enjoy in the USA and the rest of the world as well. The 99%ers are cannon fodder for their economic wars and slaves for their factories. And sadly the totalitarian ideology of the commie red-shirts and totalitarian ideology of the deep southern provinces would even be far worse. You are kidding, right? "Small businesses comprise what share of the U.S. economy?" Small businesses make up: 99.7 percent of U.S. employer firms, 64 percent of net new private-sector jobs, 49.2 percent of private-sector employment, 42.9 percent of private-sector payroll, 46 percent of private-sector output, 43 percent of high-tech employment, 98 percent of firms exporting goods, and 33 percent of exporting value. Source: U.S. Census Bureau, SUSB, CPS; International Trade Administration; Bureau of Labor Statistics, BED; Advocacy-funded research, Small Business GDP: Update 2002- 2010, www.sba.gov/advocacy/7540/42371. LINK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimoMax Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Sadly this Pro-Coup video has a lot of propaganda and does not tell the whole story. The producers would have been better off to not focus so much on the Coup and Propaganda that everything now is fine without including the continued Anti-Coup Protests, They should have included the mountains of proof and more on events and situations that lead to the Coup such as Thaksin and the PTP admitting they are in control of the Country and Controlled from Overseas and "Run by Thaksin". Edited June 3, 2014 by KimoMax 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Has John Kerry even made any comment on this? Eventually the USA is going to ask the army to stop being confrontational with the embassy, ambassador and Washington, and Mr. Yon will have to wind his neck in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 "They believe unity and conformity are the solutions to every problem." Sadly that is the ideology of the commie red-shirts and the ideology of the deep south provinces. Let us hope they are never able to implement it. If the rest of Thailand believed as you said, why have the military not exterminated both these groups? Exactly. Oh yes indeed. The army is just gathering new ideas and opinions from far and wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadman Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Jeez. What a pathetic video in terms of trying to get a message across. "Amnesty Bill was passed"???? "Leaders of the world" - Gillard???? Get with the times. And the hitman bit at the end sticking it to the Yankees is irrelevant to Thailand's presentation to the world, lacks professionalism and destroys the credibility (errors excepted) of the video message. As for those who think it is one sided. Possibly. But is that any different on here from one of the Nation's opinion writers who used to constantly spiel out attacks on all Shinawatra opposition but never once get even close to presenting Thaksin's faults. Edited June 3, 2014 by Roadman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templedog Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Silly rabbit, the USA has been controlled by the 1%ers since its founding. The only freedom you enjoy is what the 1%ers allow you to enjoy in the USA and the rest of the world as well. The 99%ers are cannon fodder for their economic wars and slaves for their factories. And sadly the totalitarian ideology of the commie red-shirts and totalitarian ideology of the deep southern provinces would even be far worse. You are kidding, right? "Small businesses comprise what share of the U.S. economy?" Small businesses make up: 99.7 percent of U.S. employer firms, 64 percent of net new private-sector jobs, 49.2 percent of private-sector employment, 42.9 percent of private-sector payroll, 46 percent of private-sector output, 43 percent of high-tech employment, 98 percent of firms exporting goods, and 33 percent of exporting value. Source: U.S. Census Bureau, SUSB, CPS; International Trade Administration; Bureau of Labor Statistics, BED; Advocacy-funded research, Small Business GDP: Update 2002- 2010, www.sba.gov/advocacy/7540/42371. LINK And by all of this "factual number crunching data", you are proving that "somtinwong" is deluded in his/her statement about the 1%ers? WTFU....wake the f...up. Get a clue. Watch too much tv? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post icare999 Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 time Taksin got a taste of his own and you have to fight fire with fire As someone whose been here over 30 years my wife (from poor) many this friends and many agree 100% with this analysis and ok its a PR job but thats whats needed LAst bit aout evils of USA are totally true and anyone who thinks otherwise is totally naive Thank goodness for Supet for not letting Taksin get away with it and this time maybe for good 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templedog Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Silly rabbit, the USA has been controlled by the 1%ers since its founding. The only freedom you enjoy is what the 1%ers allow you to enjoy in the USA and the rest of the world as well. The 99%ers are cannon fodder for their economic wars and slaves for their factories. And sadly the totalitarian ideology of the commie red-shirts and totalitarian ideology of the deep southern provinces would even be far worse. You are kidding, right? "Small businesses comprise what share of the U.S. economy?" Small businesses make up: 99.7 percent of U.S. employer firms, 64 percent of net new private-sector jobs, 49.2 percent of private-sector employment, 42.9 percent of private-sector payroll, 46 percent of private-sector output, 43 percent of high-tech employment, 98 percent of firms exporting goods, and 33 percent of exporting value. Source: U.S. Census Bureau, SUSB, CPS; International Trade Administration; Bureau of Labor Statistics, BED; Advocacy-funded research, Small Business GDP: Update 2002- 2010, www.sba.gov/advocacy/7540/42371. LINK Read this...then comment about "small enterprises". http://www.spiritual-economics.com/michel-chossudovsky/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templedog Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 time Taksin got a taste of his own and you have to fight fire with fire As someone whose been here over 30 years my wife (from poor) many this friends and many agree 100% with this analysis and ok its a PR job but thats whats needed LAst bit aout evils of USA are totally true and anyone who thinks otherwise is totally naive Thank goodness for Supet for not letting Taksin get away with it and this time maybe for good SPOT ON!! Tell it like it is....refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadman Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 time Taksin got a taste of his own and you have to fight fire with fire As someone whose been here over 30 years my wife (from poor) many this friends and many agree 100% with this analysis and ok its a PR job but thats whats needed LAst bit aout evils of USA are totally true and anyone who thinks otherwise is totally naive Thank goodness for Supet for not letting Taksin get away with it and this time maybe for good The last bit about the USA may be true, but you do not win over the opposition by sticking their own faults to them. Acceptable as fun debate (within the tougher rules) here on TV but Diplomacy 101 on the world stage it is not. I am all for showing the real truth to the world about Thailand's current situation but this video sucks bit time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icare999 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 would it not be wonderful karma if this was translated to thai and broadcast many times over this TV to all Thais mu8ch more sense than Taksins red shirt radio constant drivel and lies Theirs little in it which is not true as no one with any brain can see I can dream but most of my dreams seem to be coming true and most evil person Thailand has ever produced seems to be defeated at last 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartender100 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Whether this is just dressed up propaganda or not, there is no mistake Thailand needed this coup. The US are so out of touch on overseas policy its a joke. Not supporting the Kurds against a corrupt Iraq government is another example, supporting the Islamic rebels in Syria, now the shambolic release of the POW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icare999 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Let's just say, this video is very economical with the truth. The first few sentences already contained lies, Thaksin never passed the Amnesty law, he might have tried it, but it was never passed. I will refrain from some of the other <deleted>, except to point out that reform can only be performed if there is a government that has a clear electoral mandate. Of course after the reform by the militairy, there is no doubt the same people, or at the very least people from the same background and same methods will return to power, simply because a large part of the Thai electorate votes them into office, just as happens all around the world. come of it and Bush blair never killed anyone Taksin controlled ordered and his government passed amnesty bill What a prat you are If I ordered murder of my wife and arranged it by your logic i never did it pathetic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post edwardandtubs Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 What is this ridiculous piece of propaganda doing in the news section? I thought we posted ridiculous videos like this in the Farang Pub section. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post icare999 Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 time Taksin got a taste of his own and you have to fight fire with fire As someone whose been here over 30 years my wife (from poor) many this friends and many agree 100% with this analysis and ok its a PR job but thats whats needed LAst bit aout evils of USA are totally true and anyone who thinks otherwise is totally naive Thank goodness for Supet for not letting Taksin get away with it and this time maybe for good The last bit about the USA may be true, but you do not win over the opposition by sticking their own faults to them. Acceptable as fun debate (within the tougher rules) here on TV but Diplomacy 101 on the world stage it is not. I am all for showing the real truth to the world about Thailand's current situation but this video sucks bit time. USA as far as I'm concerned can go @#$## off and mind their won business. How dare you or anyone think anyone from outside has any right to be in opposition unless it is obvious human rights have been broken or Army have caused needless deaths or hugs amount of problems. This is not A Hitler type tae over or Pol pot and not even like one caused by USA in Ukraine. If at any time the Army violate main human rights or treat people cruelly then rest should as video says let Thais sort their own problems in their own way Your like a lot of forang here who think you know best who come here with your western corrupt ways and try to push down throats of Thais how superior they are in threes things. Ive seen it for over 30 + years here and its pure racism IMO and worst offenders I've met recently are those supporting Taksin and red thugs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen33 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm not a religious person, but this video brought a biblical quote to mind. "Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them" (Matthew 7.20). Sometimes people who espouse extreme views say a bit too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thai at Heart Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 time Taksin got a taste of his own and you have to fight fire with fire As someone whose been here over 30 years my wife (from poor) many this friends and many agree 100% with this analysis and ok its a PR job but thats whats needed LAst bit aout evils of USA are totally true and anyone who thinks otherwise is totally naive Thank goodness for Supet for not letting Taksin get away with it and this time maybe for good The last bit about the USA may be true, but you do not win over the opposition by sticking their own faults to them. Acceptable as fun debate (within the tougher rules) here on TV but Diplomacy 101 on the world stage it is not.I am all for showing the real truth to the world about Thailand's current situation but this video sucks bit time. USA as far as I'm concerned can go @#$## off and mind their won business. How dare you or anyone think anyone from outside has any right to be in opposition unless it is obvious human rights have been broken or Army have caused needless deaths or hugs amount of problems. This is not A Hitler type tae over or Pol pot and not even like one caused by USA in Ukraine.If at any time the Army violate main human rights or treat people cruelly then rest should as video says let Thais sort their own problems in their own way Your like a lot of forang here who think you know best who come here with your western corrupt ways and try to push down throats of Thais how superior they are in threes things. Ive seen it for over 30 + years here and its pure racism IMO and worst offenders I've met recently are those supporting Taksin and red thugs If america had f*******d off and minded its own business, we would be sitting in the communist democratic republic of Thailand. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Roadman Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 time Taksin got a taste of his own and you have to fight fire with fire As someone whose been here over 30 years my wife (from poor) many this friends and many agree 100% with this analysis and ok its a PR job but thats whats needed LAst bit aout evils of USA are totally true and anyone who thinks otherwise is totally naive Thank goodness for Supet for not letting Taksin get away with it and this time maybe for good The last bit about the USA may be true, but you do not win over the opposition by sticking their own faults to them. Acceptable as fun debate (within the tougher rules) here on TV but Diplomacy 101 on the world stage it is not. I am all for showing the real truth to the world about Thailand's current situation but this video sucks bit time. USA as far as I'm concerned can go @#$## off and mind their won business. How dare you or anyone think anyone from outside has any right to be in opposition unless it is obvious human rights have been broken or Army have caused needless deaths or hugs amount of problems. This is not A Hitler type tae over or Pol pot and not even like one caused by USA in Ukraine. If at any time the Army violate main human rights or treat people cruelly then rest should as video says let Thais sort their own problems in their own way Your like a lot of forang here who think you know best who come here with your western corrupt ways and try to push down throats of Thais how superior they are in threes things. Ive seen it for over 30 + years here and its pure racism IMO and worst offenders I've met recently are those supporting Taksin and red thugs Gee....please do not ever apply for any position, waitress included where people skills, diplomacy and the ability to understand the Queen's English are desirable. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonbridgebrit Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 God Almighty.There's no need for the anti-coup people to jump up and down, and say their stuff.This video is similar to some of the stuff on Michael Yon's facebook wall. The people who make such videos (or put up similar pictures) damage their own cause in a big way. Why have a pop at whatever people, when these people shoot themselves in the foot !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqn2c2p-3zk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Wow... There is nothing new to me in this video, even the bit at the end about the Americans. Let the world know what is really happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautifulthailand99 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) When videos make for social sharing become the currency of international diplomacy then we will have gone down the wormhole that is Michael Yon. That said my usual cynicism and disdain for coups and cessation of democracy has been tempered somewhat. And I hope that in 6 months we will be in a better place. They should have also have added that it was the money the US showered on the Generals in the Vietnam War institutionalized widespread and extensive corruption in the military and strengthened their grip on power. What Thailand really needs is a clean hands Ghandi , Mandela , Martin Luther King or the like to inspire the nation and convince the Ammart to share some of the pie with the populace. But it wont happen as Thailand is always same same but different. ps qouting that discredited war criminal Tony Blair lost my attention early on . My friend Suzy put it more succinctly. Edited June 3, 2014 by beautifulthailand99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumtingwong Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 "Ghandi , Mandela , Martin Luther King" Non of those 3 had clean hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen33 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Some disturbing responses to international criticism are beginning to surface. Bangkok Pundit is carrying a translation of an article from Naew Na that is even more wacky. BP has given it the title: 'Superpower plot to destroy Thailand'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I didn't know the enemy was either John Kerry or the World. any non Thai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 This is a classic video how we can use distortion, untruth, half truth to justify insurrection activities. The use of intimidation, threats, violence and human right violation. This video further create hurts, bitterness and anger. Of course Thailand problem should be resolved by Thai people. IMO, it does not matter how the USA response to a Thailand's problems. USA administration is an INTERNATIONAL DICTATORSHIP. What matter most is how and what we Thais are doing for ourselves to liberate and free us and Thailand from the hands of the oppressors. USA involvement in Thailand will bring us to the same situations experienced by middle east countries and other emerging democratic countries. Thai people will fight domestic and international dictatorship. but not who will pay them the most to vote eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautifulthailand99 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 "Ghandi , Mandela , Martin Luther King" Non of those 3 had clean hands. Not exactly clean but spotless compared to the sticky fingers of most of the Thai establishment.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marinediscoking Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 What I find strange is most of the TV members claim that the majority of the Thai's are in favor of the coup. From my conversations with thai's since it happened I can't find more than about 20% who support it. This is not a scientific poll just a cross section of about 30 or so thai's composed of my staff, business associates and friends. The majority did not think the violence was to a point that warranted a coup. About 70% didn't seem to favor either political party or were willing to admit who they liked or preferred to govern. As what might be expected the coup here has been the main topic of conversation with most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumtingwong Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 You would feel very differently when it happens to you. When you are peacefully protesting and the other party fire 3 M79 grenades and sprayed M16 rifle shots and pistols at your group as investigators found .223 and .45 cartridges, you would be saying something very differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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