British backpacker arrested for suspected murder of fellow Britons at Koh Tao

[Brian Robson]

Casting around (Facebook) IF it's the same guy, it may be that drugs, specifically DMT were involved.

[Giddyup99]

From the Daily Mail......................"Yesterday Gen Prayut called for a quick resolution to the case as it was tarnishing his country’s image. As well as mentioning the perpetrators of the attack, he also singled out the behaviour of the two tourists."

It's so nice to see Mr. Prime Minister lay blame on the victims and worry about Thailand's image. What a joker.

[alanrchase]

I don't give a damn of the nationality of the killer or the reputation of Thailand.

What I want is the real killer to be found for the sakes of the families of those kids and the sakes of other people being killed by the same murderer.

I believe you. I agree with you. I said this in my only post on the subject shortly after the first news report. Unfortunately, so many MANY of the Official Thai Visa Committee On Picking Up The White Man's Burden don't agree with you. They have lost face. Oh my. They were posting from Minute 1 about the nasty, violent Thais. Yeah, well, this is a horrible crime whoever did it, and white people do this stuff, too. Whoever did it must pay, along with any helpers/enablers.

I had a problem right from the start with both Thais and Burmese doing this particular, horrible crime - because they had no motive to do what was done. This poor couple had no valuables to steal, weren't in anyone's face, didn't cause any ruckus. The only possible motive seems to be a kind of jealousy, a "crime of passion" as they say.

The stupid people - and they ARE stupid - who immediately piled not only on the Thais but Thailand - will they have the grace to be contrite? Is the Pope a Muslim?

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Mate a Thai on a two day Yabba or Ice bender is more than capable of doing this in a moment of drug induced madness

Obviously there are no Foreigners out here who would be daft enough to go on a two day Yabba or Ice bender only Thais?

[Franky Bear]

I don't give a damn of the nationality of the killer or the reputation of Thailand.

What I want is the real killer to be found for the sakes of the families of those kids and the sakes of other people being killed by the same murderer.

I believe you. I agree with you. I said this in my only post on the subject shortly after the first news report. Unfortunately, so many MANY of the Official Thai Visa Committee On Picking Up The White Man's Burden don't agree with you. They have lost face. Oh my. They were posting from Minute 1 about the nasty, violent Thais. Yeah, well, this is a horrible crime whoever did it, and white people do this stuff, too. Whoever did it must pay, along with any helpers/enablers.

I had a problem right from the start with both Thais and Burmese doing this particular, horrible crime - because they had no motive to do what was done. This poor couple had no valuables to steal, weren't in anyone's face, didn't cause any ruckus. The only possible motive seems to be a kind of jealousy, a "crime of passion" as they say.

The stupid people - and they ARE stupid - who immediately piled not only on the Thais but Thailand - will they have the grace to be contrite? Is the Pope a Muslim?

.

Mate a Thai on a two day Yabba or Ice bender is more than capable of doing this in a moment of drug induced madness

Obviously there are no Foreigners out here who would be daft enough to go on a two day Yabba or Ice bender only Thais?

I didn't think i needed to mention that....as it was a given.

[soalbundy]

where's Sherlock when you need him......on the TVF

[Loles]

I'm totally confused, thanks for media news and police communication.

And this guy how could find a hoe which is an ordinary instrument in nationwide TH murders?

Edited September 17, 2014 by Loles

[alanrchase]

I don't give a damn of the nationality of the killer or the reputation of Thailand.
What I want is the real killer to be found for the sakes of the families of those kids and the sakes of other people being killed by the same murderer.

I believe you. I agree with you. I said this in my only post on the subject shortly after the first news report. Unfortunately, so many MANY of the Official Thai Visa Committee On Picking Up The White Man's Burden don't agree with you. They have lost face. Oh my. They were posting from Minute 1 about the nasty, violent Thais. Yeah, well, this is a horrible crime whoever did it, and white people do this stuff, too. Whoever did it must pay, along with any helpers/enablers.

I had a problem right from the start with both Thais and Burmese doing this particular, horrible crime - because they had no motive to do what was done. This poor couple had no valuables to steal, weren't in anyone's face, didn't cause any ruckus. The only possible motive seems to be a kind of jealousy, a "crime of passion" as they say.

The stupid people - and they ARE stupid - who immediately piled not only on the Thais but Thailand - will they have the grace to be contrite? Is the Pope a Muslim?

.

Mate a Thai on a two day Yabba or Ice bender is more than capable of doing this in a moment of drug induced madness

Obviously there are no Foreigners out here who would be daft enough to go on a two day Yabba or Ice bender only Thais?

I didn't think i needed to mention that....as it was a given.

You started with "Mate a Thai" and never mentioned other nationalities so forgive me for thinking you did not include other nationalities. Edited September 17, 2014 by angiud
Quotes fixed

[mikemac]

If it is proved that it was a person/s who was not Thai who committed this hideous crime there will be a lot of big feet being pulled out of a lot of big mouths.

You compulsive Thai bashers just love stories such as these, and I have noticed over the years that some posters only bother to post comments when threads like this come along.

Apart from breaking TV Forum rule #11 it shows signs of having a nasty disposition and is low class.

[EnzoRippo]

Very sorry to read that, one more time, this story becomes something related to Thainess or Farangness when it's just a crime committed by a criminal.

[Briggsy]

The story seems to be changing yet again.

The BBC is now reporting 2 British brothers are being "escorted" in Bangkok as "possible suspects".

It seems to be a pattern of announcements by the police all leading away from any suggestion that the killer is a Koh Tao resident. Whether it be Burmese migrants, or "a Thai couldn't have committed the crime" or psycho bloodstained backpackers, all statements are placing zero suspicion on people from Koh Tao.

Yet a Koh Tao native would be the most likely to commit such a crime, a sense of impunity, easily offended on home turf, access to a hoe, ability to hide behind and get the support of relatives.

This one ain't gonna be solved.

[IAMSOBAD]

I wonder if he knew them and gained their trust to get them alone and off guard?

[Franky Bear]

You started with "Mate a Thai" and never mentioned other nationalities so forgive me for thinking you did not include other nationalities.

You're challenged then. My bad

[alanrchase]

I don't give a damn of the nationality of the killer or the reputation of Thailand.
What I want is the real killer to be found for the sakes of the families of those kids and the sakes of other people being killed by the same murderer.

I believe you. I agree with you. I said this in my only post on the subject shortly after the first news report. Unfortunately, so many MANY of the Official Thai Visa Committee On Picking Up The White Man's Burden don't agree with you. They have lost face. Oh my. They were posting from Minute 1 about the nasty, violent Thais. Yeah, well, this is a horrible crime whoever did it, and white people do this stuff, too. Whoever did it must pay, along with any helpers/enablers.

I had a problem right from the start with both Thais and Burmese doing this particular, horrible crime - because they had no motive to do what was done. This poor couple had no valuables to steal, weren't in anyone's face, didn't cause any ruckus. The only possible motive seems to be a kind of jealousy, a "crime of passion" as they say.

The stupid people - and they ARE stupid - who immediately piled not only on the Thais but Thailand - will they have the grace to be contrite? Is the Pope a Muslim?

.

Mate a Thai on a two day Yabba or Ice bender is more than capable of doing this in a moment of drug induced madness

Obviously there are no Foreigners out here who would be daft enough to go on a two day Yabba or Ice bender only Thais?

Curiously enough (and mildly coincidentally) Britain has not had the problems that other nations have had with Meth. Our addictions tend to be heroin, speed and cocaine based. Crack pretty much passed us by and so has crystal meth. Bizarre really when you consider how much like the Yanks the majority of Britain seem to want to be!

Is "Speed" not meth? Dont keep up with it all. Ice I believe is a bit different. However none of it turns out to be fun in the end. Edited September 17, 2014 by angiud
Quotes fixed

[Thailand]

Post 95 says there are now six suspects implicated in the murders.

[Bean87]

His brother left the island days before the murder, he checked in on fb in Bangkok.

[awesumvin]

Casting around (Facebook) IF it's the same guy, it may be that drugs, specifically DMT were involved.

Please explain your thinking here. If you know anything about DMT, it doesn't cause rage.

[davebbbb]

It is not the first time westerners have been murdered on the islands. I remember 2 westerners murdered on Ko Samui whilst there many years ago.

[Franky Bear]

I wonder if he knew them and gained their trust to get them alone and off guard?

I think it's something like 90% of people murdered knew the killer beforehand. That could be anything from a family member to someone they had a few drinks with before hand.

It's a terrible case and hopefully justice is brought on the right person(s) and the others that have been dragged in can get out of their Thai nightmare

[jamiesilver]

I would strongly urge the parents of the victims to get in touch with the BBC again, and get a 3rd party Investigator into Thailand as soon as possible. There is no way justice will be certain in a country like this...

[mikemac]

I don't give a damn of the nationality of the killer or the reputation of Thailand.

What I want is the real killer to be found for the sakes of the families of those kids and the sakes of other people being killed by the same murderer.

I believe you. I agree with you. I said this in my only post on the subject shortly after the first news report. Unfortunately, so many MANY of the Official Thai Visa Committee On Picking Up The White Man's Burden don't agree with you. They have lost face. Oh my. They were posting from Minute 1 about the nasty, violent Thais. Yeah, well, this is a horrible crime whoever did it, and white people do this stuff, too. Whoever did it must pay, along with any helpers/enablers.

I had a problem right from the start with both Thais and Burmese doing this particular, horrible crime - because they had no motive to do what was done. This poor couple had no valuables to steal, weren't in anyone's face, didn't cause any ruckus. The only possible motive seems to be a kind of jealousy, a "crime of passion" as they say.

The stupid people - and they ARE stupid - who immediately piled not only on the Thais but Thailand - will they have the grace to be contrite? Is the Pope a Muslim?

.

Contrite ? As in - "feeling or expressing remorse or penitence; affected by guilt" ?

The stupid people you refer to would not have either the style, class or balls to feel contrite.

[robertthebruce]

They are now saying the Guy had been Raped too ???

[draftvader]

Is "Speed" not meth? Dont keep up with it all. Ice I believe is a bit different. However none of it turns out to be fun in the end.

Cleaned up the quotes there. Meth is effectively "purified" speed. Speed is to Meth what Cocaine is to Crack. Speed is, as I know from personal experience, mildly addictive. Meth, on the other hand, is massively addictive.

Some drugs do turn out to be fun. It is very much like alcohol. Lao Kao being necked vs a fine single malt savoured over the course of time.

[webfact]

UPDATE:

Thailand murders: Two British men to be questioned

(BBC) Police investigating the murders of two British tourists in Thailand have said two Britons are "possible suspects" and will face questioning.

Hannah Witheridge, 23, and David Miller, 24, were found dead on a beach on the island of Koh Tao on Monday.

Two British men who spent time with the victims in the days before they died are now in "police care" in Bangkok.

Police said the men had not been formally detained or arrested but had been prevented from leaving Thailand.

BBC south-east Asia correspondent Jonathan Head said the men were believed to be brothers and were stopped at Bangkok International Airport as they prepared to leave the country.

Source: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29234138


-- BBC 2014-09-17

[Spaniel]

They are now saying the Guy had been Raped too ???

Yes, quite a twist to the story.

[variable]

BBC south-east Asia correspondent Jonathan Head said the men were believed to be brothers and were stopped at Bangkok International Airport as they prepared to leave the country.

Trying to flee looks damaging.

[harryfrompattaya]

This is a smokescreen by the police, either to reduce the pressure on them by announcing the arrest of a "suspect", anyone just to feed the press or a deliberate attempt to send the investigation up the wrong alley whilst any evidence pointing to the real killer is destroyed or corrupted or forgotten about. There is a lot of money made on Koh Tao and it is distributed amongst a small number of families who may not want the real killer exposed.

I guess you were their and know the killer I hope the police talk to you

[Franky Bear]

Am i right in saying that it's unusual that DNA is being used in Thailand?

I am more than aware they have it available but as far as i have read it's not very often you read words like, "DNA will be used to help find the cause of this....." In fact, outwith the Tsunami i can't ever recall reading about it being used or am i miles out here?

[Razzler1973]

Are we actually any further down the line in having a clue about this?

The couple were murdered. The woman may or may not have been raped. The guy may or may not have been raped. Not sure this has been confirmed

The migrant workers have iPhones of the victims? Duh, that's nothing, you find an iPhone then you keep it. Something about blond hair? The girl has blond hair. Women's hair gets everywhere. I take clothes out the drawer and my girlfriend's hair is bloody on them, never get rid of it!!

I don't see the connection for this lad that's been pictured? He is apparently gay (so?) He was jealous (of what?)

I can imagine backpackers getting into arguements with each other but the whole blugeoning to death doesn't feel very 'backpacker-y' to me though but hey, who knows

I think they're busy naming scenarios but all we have is a bloody hoe and grainy CCTV footage?

[AnotherOneAmerican]

I wonder if he knew them and gained their trust to get them alone and off guard?

According to the Daily Mail report.

He was battered around the back of the head and shoulders, she was battered around the face.

I'm fairly sure that what they were doing to be in that position would have put them "off guard" to the entire world.

[Bean87]

Some sites are claiming both were raped. Some clain none were.

Really there is so much rubbish being put out by different media companies.