Pattaya guard beats foreign tourist unconscious 'out of misunderstanding'

[ThePlant]

If you live in this 'rat hole country' why do you bother? If it's so bad go somewhere else.

Well the thing is that while many love living here, we're not blinkered enough, nor daft enough to realise that even in a 'misunderstanding' there are cowards enough waiting to beat your brains in like heroes.

Pray you are never involved in a 'misunderstanding'.

[monkeycountry]

Not that I usually spend more money than I have on me in a bar or any where for that matter but if I did after reading this I would ask one of the bar staff to walk with me to the ATM and then walk back with them to the bar so all staff can see I paid.

In the guards eyes you would now not only be walking away from an unpaid bill, but also from an unpaid barfine.

[Rimmer]

Some troll posts removed

[z42]

Ah, great, such news are now pouring in on a daily Basis.

Didn't the Thai tourism minister say yesterday that "all problems have been addressed and everything is fine now " ?

Maybe invite that guy (after he recovered if he does) to the next THIS IS THAINESS festival at Suan Lumpinee so to teach him about local custom before things happen ;-)

try drinking in city bar anywhere round the world and then try to fob half the bill off.

not nice he got beat up but we only got half the story. there are some serious mouth merchants from the UK in pattay who think the world owes them a living and the locals they regard with utter disdain.

who knows he may have had it coming

No makkam the full story (as it is reported anyway) states that the man was on the way to the ATM to get the remainder of the money after stating to bar employees that's what he was going to do. He was hit from behind on the way to the ATM.

He could well have had a beating in store for him. But again a pack of spineless motorbike cabbies booting him in the head when he is on the ground already seems above and beyond the realms of any score settling, even more so when they weren't even involved in any way, shape or form.

So how about reading a little more closely before penning some moronic, speculative BS rant. A sickening mindset on show here. Give your head a shake

[luudee]

Glad they gave the name of the bar - I'll be avoiding it ...

[sabaii69]

You really should have money if you're going drinking. Are you so daft that you can't figure out how much you owe? Yes, thais are anxiously waiting to beat hell out of you here and it is hard to manage 6 or so of them. Even if you fight back and win you'll have to pay handsomely.

[whooshbang]

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. there are some serious mouth merchants from the UK in pattaya

Cant see where it states the man is from UK but nice try ;-)

I was in the very same situation as this and the Mamasan was quite understanding....she flagged a taxi driver over and explained to him that i'll be needing an ATM and lift back to the bar!

[Minnehaha]

Is that the only photo of Pattaya they've got?

the other is of 3 guys on bar stools.

it would be nice if they had a shot of a group of folks going to play golf; standing outside one of the high end restaurants or the Royal Cliff Resort so people know what really goes on in this town

[BlueSkyCowboy]

The gaurd called for help ! What a brave man he must have been ! can it never be 1 on 1 in this place?????

We don't know the story, but going out drinking with 600 Bt is not very bright. Then he claims to go to an ATM and of course return hahahaha

[atyclb]

Ah, great, such news are now pouring in on a daily Basis.

Didn't the Thai tourism minister say yesterday that "all problems have been addressed and everything is fine now " ?

Maybe invite that guy (after he recovered if he does) to the next THIS IS THAINESS festival at Suan Lumpinee so to teach him about local custom before things happen ;-)

try drinking in city bar anywhere round the world and then try to fob half the bill off.

not nice he got beat up but we only got half the story. there are some serious mouth merchants from the UK in pattay who think the world owes them a living and the locals they regard with utter disdain.

who knows he may have had it coming

"he may have had it coming"

did he rape or murder someone related to the guard?

I suppose this is your Magnum Opus.

[ExPratt]

So 5 of them kicked him unconscious for 700 baht, It sort of confirms what I've thought about many tourist areas and the way the Thais look at Farangs

Edited January 20, 2015 by ExPratt

[Rimmer]

Off topic post and reply removed, this is not about 'amazing places to discover in SE Asia'

[Barefoot]

Not that I usually spend more money than I have on me in a bar or any where for that matter but if I did after reading this I would ask one of the bar staff to walk with me to the ATM and then walk back with them to the bar so all staff can see I paid.

I certainly do not condone the thuggery of the guards and the others, but I have been in this situation a few times over the years and his behavior is begging for a misunderstanding. I would ask a service girl to accompany me to the ATM, and make sure that she explains to anyone intercepting us that all was ok. Just walking out of the bar towards an ATM is not appreciated in any country that I have been to. A little common sense avoids most problems in this country.

Edited January 20, 2015 by Barefoot

[ExPratt]

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Not that I usually spend more money than I have on me in a bar or any where for that matter but if I did after reading this I would ask one of the bar staff to walk with me to the ATM and then walk back with them to the bar so all staff can see I paid.

I certainly do not condone the thuggery of the guards and the others, but I have been in this situation a few times over the years and his behavior is begging for a misunderstanding. I would ask a service girl to accompany me to the ATM, and make sure that she explains to anyone intercepting us that all was ok. Just walking out of the bar towards an ATM is not appreciated in any country that I have been to. A little common sense avoids most problems in this country.

No not appreciated , but how many countries would you be attacked and kicked unconscious by 5 people

[upena]

Discover Thainess in Pattaya

[steveyinasia]

Once again a mob attack that then fled the scene like the bunch of cowards they really are.

[RT555]

He should have called the Mamasan.......Happened to me before, but I left my hat and sunglasses and a full beer on the bar, told them I'd be back.....

[timmyp]

The gaurd called for help ! What a brave man he must have been ! can it never be 1 on 1 in this place?????

I have seen some Thai vs. Farang fights over the years, and it is never one-on-one. When the first punch is thrown, surrounding Thai men will come running, and join the fight with vigor. I attribute this to a stressed-out lifestyle, and the desire to explode at something. I really avoid conflicts with Thai people when they are getting angry, because things can go serious awry. I think the serious consequences in Thai vs. Farang fights are usually because farangs continued to confront an Thai man without realizing what they are about to get into a fight with all the men in area.

This isn't a complaint about Thailand: I don't have these problems because I avoid such conflicts, and situations in which a Thai person might start thinking Thai vs. Farang. If you are a minority anywhere in the world (as farangs are in Thailand), conflicts with the majority will not end well. Physical conflicts will usually end in the party representing the minority group being seriously beaten, and blamed for the altercation.

[Jingthing]

Shoulda coulda. In any case there was no justification to beat him up even if he was really doing a runner. Then just call the police ... even in Thailand.

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[ratchaburi]

How do you's guy know it has any thing to do with the Honey Bay

[Bangkok Barry]

Typical story really. One idiot maybe starts something he can't finish. The fragile egoed males are hovering in the background as their women carouse with other men then jump at the chance to vent a bit and beat a lone man into unconsciousness. No wonder their women work bars as they're clearly not man enough to satisfy them.

Just waiting for the apologists to start blaming the tourist......

Okay, me. All the tourist had to do was wave his ATM card at the staff and indicate he was going to a machine and someone would no doubt have escorted him. I've done it several times when I've overspent. If he failed to communicate that was what he was going to do due to language problems then it isn't surprising that they thought he was leaving without paying.

Having said that, I don't condone the over-reaction, but that is perfectly normal in Thailand where farang-bashing is a favourite sport.

[how241]

and this is only the stuff that gets reported, only a fraction of these incidents hit the news

Maybe the security guard could have spent his time better by escorting the man to the ATM rather than whacking him over the head

+1...Better idea.

[captspectre]

The gaurd called for help ! What a brave man he must have been ! can it never be 1 on 1 in this place?????

in Asia it is never one on one with a foreigner, especially an American. and what;s with going to a bar with sixhundred baht? was he a back packer?

[balo]

Is that the only photo of Pattaya they've got?

Are you tired of being in the headlines every time they use this picture?

[Bangkok Barry]

Ah, great, such news are now pouring in on a daily Basis.

Didn't the Thai tourism minister say yesterday that "all problems have been addressed and everything is fine now " ?

Maybe invite that guy (after he recovered if he does) to the next THIS IS THAINESS festival at Suan Lumpinee so to teach him about local custom before things happen ;-)

try drinking in city bar anywhere round the world and then try to fob half the bill off.

not nice he got beat up but we only got half the story. there are some serious mouth merchants from the UK in pattay who think the world owes them a living and the locals they regard with utter disdain.

who knows he may have had it coming

No makkam the full story (as it is reported anyway) states that the man was on the way to the ATM to get the remainder of the money after stating to bar employees that's what he was going to do. He was hit from behind on the way to the ATM.

He could well have had a beating in store for him. But again a pack of spineless motorbike cabbies booting him in the head when he is on the ground already seems above and beyond the realms of any score settling, even more so when they weren't even involved in any way, shape or form.

So how about reading a little more closely before penning some moronic, speculative BS rant. A sickening mindset on show here. Give your head a shake

And if YOU read the story properly it says he told them IN ENGLISH what he was going to do. I'd guess they didn't understand English well enough to catch his plan. It was indeed a misunderstanding, but with criminal consequences and all those should be jailed. But of course they won't as that would mean the police might have to do some work.

[monkeycountry]

The gaurd called for help ! What a brave man he must have been ! can it never be 1 on 1 in this place?????

We don't know the story, but going out drinking with 600 Bt is not very bright. Then he claims to go to an ATM and of course return hahahaha

Not everyone has a predictable night where they sit and and sip one beer all by themselves in a corner all night. Some people go out with say 10 or 20k, but end up spending it. Unless the whole night is planned in advance, one easily ends up buying more drinks and shots and paying more tips than one can afford with the cash left, and then eventually one has to go to the ATM, and most bars have no problem with that at all. In fact I am quite sure both the bar and the girls prefer those customers over the cheap charlie type.

[johnnygimbo]

The gaurd called for help ! What a brave man he must have been ! can it never be 1 on 1 in this place?????

No.

[iReason]

"The guard then called upon a group of motorcycle taxi drivers to help beat the foreigner until he lost consciousness, witnesses say."

Standard procedure for these punk cowards.

"Pattaya, a resort town east of Bangkok, is known for its raucous nightlife and high rate of crimes against foreigners."

Quality hosts.

In a quality town.

[beammeup]

Of course it takes more than 1, Kicking someone in the head with those flip flops must hurt like a bugger.

[brewsterbudgen]

For all of you wearing your rosé colored glasses, something like this may someday happen to you. In Thailand it is not a question of will something bad happen it is only a question of when.

You are probably right, if you're referring to those who regularly get drunk, don't have enough money to cover their bins, can get loud and abusive and generally have a low opinion of Thais and the "service class". Otherwise you'll be fine.