NoshowJones Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) I travelled 170 Ks since filling my bike up (Forza 300) now, still registering over half full, last fuel stop before travelling through hilly wooded country. The fuel attendant started refilling before I had the chance to check the pump, which then showed 240 Bt worth of fuel. I then accused the attendant of cheating, he just shrugged his shoulder, I told him to get his boss, she said I must pay the full amount which I estimate should have been about 100 Bt less. I told the boss what I thought of the attendant, he had then disappeared. At least the attendant did not get the 100Bt in his pocket. I know it is only 100 Bt, but what about the principle? What would you have done? Edited October 29, 2016 by seedy Font Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 You payed the inflate price, yes? So how you figure the attendant didn't get his 'tip'? Always prudent to verifying 'zero' before pumping. You didn't have a chance to do that.? How so? Another confusing story, Possum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 The Forza 300 seems to have a 11.6L tank, let's say 11L when filled up. It also seems to consume about 3.5L per 100km so you would have used roughly 3.5*1.7 =~ 6L. That matches your description of half a tank showing full. So you can put another 5-6L in there at a price of 26THB that would be 160THB worst case. The only way the bill could come to 240THB is if it wasn't filled up properly the last time, leaving say 3L additional space and then on the current fillup they gave you Gold 95 at Caltex for 34THB per liter and filled up 7L. I've experienced a hand full of gasoline station attendants making mistakes or outright cheating. Better get used to watching the fuel meter and always count the change. I wonder though how he'd cheat in that case. I don't think they can modify the meter easily to inflate the per liter price nor start at 100THB. Was it one of those old small gasoline stations? What I would do in this case? Shrug it off and not go to the same station again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 If l didn't pay attention for a 100 baht l wouldn't bother. Are you sure about reset of trip readout ? Was it filled up in the first place ? What fuel and price ? Usual pumps reset at next fill. 8.5 litre aprox @ 240 baht @ 28 bht per ltr. your bike averages 20 kilos to 1 ltr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 3 hours ago, eisfeld said: The Forza 300 seems to have a 11.6L tank, let's say 11L when filled up. It also seems to consume about 3.5L per 100km so you would have used roughly 3.5*1.7 =~ 6L. That matches your description of half a tank showing full. So you can put another 5-6L in there at a price of 26THB that would be 160THB worst case. The only way the bill could come to 240THB is if it wasn't filled up properly the last time, leaving say 3L additional space and then on the current fillup they gave you Gold 95 at Caltex for 34THB per liter and filled up 7L. I've experienced a hand full of gasoline station attendants making mistakes or outright cheating. Better get used to watching the fuel meter and always count the change. I wonder though how he'd cheat in that case. I don't think they can modify the meter easily to inflate the per liter price nor start at 100THB. Was it one of those old small gasoline stations? What I would do in this case? Shrug it off and not go to the same station again. Yes, they were both as you say, one of those small gasoline stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Kwasaki said: If l didn't pay attention for a 100 baht l wouldn't bother. Are you sure about reset of trip readout ? Was it filled up in the first place ? What fuel and price ? Usual pumps reset at next fill. 8.5 litre aprox @ 240 baht @ 28 bht per ltr. your bike averages 20 kilos to 1 ltr. 1 You have a point there. 2 Yes. 3 Yes, I had no reason to be suspicious about anything. 4 Not sure exactly, I just knew there was not another filling station for ages, so I just filled up. It looks like my bike is using too much fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Why didn't you check the pump was at 0 baht when you got off yer scooter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Flaming and Bickering posts - and quoted Replies - Removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 There is one petrol station in Pattaya that are notoriously know to cheat (mostly 4 wheelers) but on a bike it pretty easy to check if the pump is on zero before they start pumping, in a car you will have to get out. Forget about it and move on, 100baht or 3$ in noting. Some guys marrying the most sexy girl in the go-go sometimes got shafted out of +3 mill baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted October 30, 2016 Author Share Posted October 30, 2016 17 hours ago, Happy Grumpy said: Why didn't you check the pump was at 0 baht when you got off yer scooter? Maybe I should have done it before I got of my bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 (edited) The fuel cap is under the seat on scooters, right. When you pull up along side the pump, check the reading on the pump before getting off your scooter. Problem solved. Make a little jingle out of it, and sing it to yourself every time you pull into a gas station. "Check the pump, before the scooter stops. Check the pump, before the scooter stops. Check the pump, before the scooter stops." To the tune of Bohemian Rhapsody. And you're good forever. Edited October 30, 2016 by Happy Grumpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retoocs01 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 14 minutes ago, Happy Grumpy said: The fuel cap is under the seat on scooters, right. When you pull up along side the pump, check the reading on the pump before getting off your scooter. LOL...have you ever been at a Thai gas station? Most, if not all guys, will reset the reading to zero, just before they start filling your tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, retoocs01 said: LOL...have you ever been at a Thai gas station? Most, if not all guys, will reset the reading to zero, just before they start filling your tank. Exactly. Sit there until you see pump lifted up and the reading reset to zero. It's quick and easy to dismount off a scooter after that. Just slide off the Forza Scooter seat. Does the Forza Scooter unlock the seat via a switch on the center column, or via key on the rear faring above the back wheel? Edited October 30, 2016 by Happy Grumpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 They are not under the seat of a Forza (or PCX). There is a rocker switch by key lock to unlock the cover to fuel cap between handlebars and seat.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 1 hour ago, DILLIGAD said: They are not under the seat of a Forza (or PCX). There is a rocker switch by key lock to unlock the cover to fuel cap between handlebars and seat. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Scooters, nowadays, they're great. Don't even need to slide off the seat to fill her up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 12 hours ago, Happy Grumpy said: The fuel cap is under the seat on scooters, right. When you pull up along side the pump, check the reading on the pump before getting off your scooter. Problem solved. Make a little jingle out of it, and sing it to yourself every time you pull into a gas station. "Check the pump, before the scooter stops. Check the pump, before the scooter stops. Check the pump, before the scooter stops." To the tune of Bohemian Rhapsody. And you're good forever. Wrong, on a Forza, it is in front of you, all you do is press a switch and it opens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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