Bar 'lady drink' etiquette?

[MaeJoMTB]

On 8/3/2017 at 0:01 AM, sanemax said:

You can see more leg and cleavage from young ladies at swimming pools or beaches 

  You can even talk to them, but, they probably wouldnt want to 

Don't know where you live, but in CM swimming pools the girls are all covered from neck to knees to elbows.

Maybe Pattaya's different.

[sanemax]

1 hour ago, MaeJoMTB said:

Don't know where you live, but in CM swimming pools the girls are all covered from neck to knees to elbows.

Maybe Pattaya's different.

There are some hotels that have swimming pools, where ladies wear bkikins

 

[thaibeachlovers]

19 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

That is an incredibly sad situation for her to be in, to be offering herself to you in exchange for food and a barfine. I think I would've had to help her in some way if that was me.  But then I am a bit of a soft touch

It's their choice to be in that business, and they know that during the low season there will be few customers. They could go work in the rice fields for 300 baht a day, or a sweat shop, instead of in the bar. The people in the hovels down the road from where I am staying probably earn less.

Do you give every beggar lotsacash?

To survive the reality of LOS, one has to harden up, and accept that one can't save every poor person one comes across.

 

BTW. If I had accepted the offer, paid the bar fine, of which she would get a %, and provided her with a slap up meal, there are those on here that would be screaming that I was an evil exploiter of the poor.

 

Re the OP, if one was expected to buy them a drink, they could just put a cover charge on, that was deleted if one bought a lady drink.

[sanemax]

On 7/29/2017 at 7:54 AM, jeab1980 said:

Maybe beacuse you are buying her a drink not her time. If i bought a drink for another farang in the bar who i just happened to talk to am i buying his time as well? And would it be acceptable for his alcholic drink he asked for to be water? 

That is a completely different situation .

Surely you can see the differences without anyone having to explain to you ?

[jeab1980]

27 minutes ago, sanemax said:

That is a completely different situation .

Surely you can see the differences without anyone having to explain to you ?

No diffrence to me maybe you need someone to explain to uou that buying a drink for anyone is not buying there time?

[sanemax]

Just now, jeab1980 said:

No diffrence to me maybe you need someone to explain to uou that buying a drink for anyone is not buying there time?

Oh come on, its entirely different .

You dont buy a felang a drink in the bar on the condition that they must sit with you and drink it .

   Also, when you buy a felang a drink, its protocol for him to buy you one back

Of course there could be varying circumstances , buy you would never go into a bar, where they would be numerous felangs hanging around and you choose which one to come and talk to you, on the condition that you by him a drink

    Felangs would be there because they want to be there and choose to do so, not just because you buy them a drink

[jeab1980]

6 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Oh come on, its entirely different .

You dont buy a felang a drink in the bar on the condition that they must sit with you and drink it .

   Also, when you buy a felang a drink, its protocol for him to buy you one back

Of course there could be varying circumstances , buy you would never go into a bar, where they would be numerous felangs hanging around and you choose which one to come and talk to you, on the condition that you by him a drink

    Felangs would be there because they want to be there and choose to do so, not just because you buy them a drink

I dont buy a girl in a bar a drink on the understanding they sit with me ( you havent read the whole thread and my posts have you.) I dont buy a drink for anyone expecting or hoping they buy one back. You really need to read what you have written in the context of what i have written. Then maybe you by commenting diffrently.

[CG1 Blue]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Do you give every beggar lotsacash?

Not every beggar no. You're right in that it's impossible to help every poor person.  But occasionally when I see genuine hardship I'll try to help.

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, jeab1980 said:

I dont buy a girl in a bar a drink on the understanding they sit with me ( you havent read the whole thread and my posts have you.) I dont buy a drink for anyone expecting or hoping they buy one back. You really need to read what you have written in the context of what i have written. Then maybe you by commenting diffrently.

Going back to your original post, it seems that you are generous with your money and expect little or nothing in return after you buy a lady drink.  That makes you easy money in the eyes of bargirls, especially if it's a slow night (it always seems to be a slow night on Loi Kroh).  Of course they are going to come to you with drink requests, why wouldn't they?

 

You need to ration your generosity.  Find a lady who's company you don't object to, buy her a drink (ask the price first), and tell all others that one lady is enough for you.  Needless to say, you are under no obligation to barfine this lady, and you are well within your rights to expect her to drink at a moderate pace instead of guzzling as many drinks as she can while you're paying.  "chaa-chaa" means "slowly, slowly" if that helps.

Edited August 4, 2017 by heybruce

[jeab1980]

32 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Going back to your original post, it seems that you are generous with your money and expect little or nothing in return after you buy a lady drink.  That makes you easy money in the eyes of bargirls, especially if it's a slow night (it always seems to be a slow night on Loi Kroh).  Of course they are going to come to you with drink requests, why wouldn't they?

 

You need to ration your generosity.  Find a lady who's company you don't object to, buy her a drink (ask the price first), and tell all others that one lady is enough for you.  Needless to say, you are under no obligation to barfine this lady, and you are well within your rights to expect her to drink at a moderate pace instead of guzzling as many drinks as she can while you're paying.  "chaa-chaa" means "slowly, slowly" if that helps.

First paragraph total rubish. I do wish people would read the thread. Second paragraph if supposed to be condesending falls well short.

You will find if you use the same bars, people get to know you and they also get to know  your married and therefore will not bother you for a drink. They will still however talk to you. If i buy a drink as stated if you could be bothered to read. One lady drink and then if i offer another its at normal bar prices ie 60bht. However i find when they are offered a drink by me whilst im on my own without the wife they will thank me but politely refuse. As the turn over of staff is very frequent in these bars there is a nucleus of two maybe three ladies who remain constant and its those we go to see.

So please to all Read the full thread before trying to disect posts trying to make one feel slightly superior (throwing in thai words again to make people appear superior. Mostly i might add bar Thai) beacuse all it achives is making one look rather silly and condesending.

To answer your post about being generous with MY money if indeed i decided to buy drinks for every girl in the bar all night it is indeed MY money my choice my desision which would not be influenced by anyone.

Edited August 4, 2017 by jeab1980

[realenglish1]

Drinking at a bar and hanging out with Prostitutes  Sounds like you are hanging in the wrong areas

 

Try a better upper echelon  bar  

[jeab1980]

1 minute ago, realenglish1 said:

Drinking at a bar and hanging out with Prostitutes  Sounds like you are hanging in the wrong areas

 

Try a better upper echelon  bar  

Give me a good down to earth beer bar than a so called upper echelon back slapping bitchy bar thank you.

[mogandave]

Give me a good down to earth beer bar than a so called upper echelon back slapping bitchy bar thank you.

Give me feet up at home with the family.

[jeab1980]

12 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

Give me feet up at home with the family.

 

Been there done that still doing that. Just love a few days break from the kids adult time.

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, jeab1980 said:

First paragraph total rubish. I do wish people would read the thread. Second paragraph if supposed to be condesending falls well short.

You will find if you use the same bars, people get to know you and they also get to know  your married and therefore will not bother you for a drink. They will still however talk to you. If i buy a drink as stated if you could be bothered to read. One lady drink and then if i offer another its at normal bar prices ie 60bht. However i find when they are offered a drink by me whilst im on my own without the wife they will thank me but politely refuse. As the turn over of staff is very frequent in these bars there is a nucleus of two maybe three ladies who remain constant and its those we go to see.

So please to all Read the full thread before trying to disect posts trying to make one feel slightly superior (throwing in thai words again to make people appear superior. Mostly i might add bar Thai) beacuse all it achives is making one look rather silly and condesending.

To answer your post about being generous with MY money if indeed i decided to buy drinks for every girl in the bar all night it is indeed MY money my choice my desision which would not be influenced by anyone.

Ok, let's go back to your original post, starting with the first paragraph, with key areas underlined:

 

"So,i like drinking in bars and inevitably some of those bars will be girly bars.  I'm a fairly generous bloke,maybe a bit of a pushover and certainly can have a lack of judgement when the beers are necked.  This all leads to regular nights out where i have a bar bill for 3000 baht and i think to myself "I've only had 6 Leo's? How did this happen?"

 

It certainly seems like you are going to girly bars and buying the ladies too many drinks.  How was I supposed to interpret this paragraph? 

 

Your writing isn't entirely clear, but I think you are now stating that you buy drinks for ladies while you are in a girly bar with your wife.  That is unusual.  Then you state that you are buying 60 baht drinks, but originally stated that you end up with a bar bill of 3000 baht, which is fifty 60 baht beers.   Somebody is drinking a lot.

 

I agree with your final sentence above: "MY money my choice my desision which would not be influenced by anyone."  But in view of this, why did you complain about your bar bill and ask for advice on buying drinks for bar ladies.

 

 

Edited August 4, 2017 by heybruce

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, jeab1980 said:

Give me a good down to earth beer bar than a so called upper echelon back slapping bitchy bar thank you.

There are many "down to earth beer bars" that don't have women hustling drinks.  I know of one in which I have been friends with the owner for a decade.  I sometimes buy her a drink, and she sometimes reciprocates, but I have never come close to a 3000 tab.

[jeab1980]

17 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Ok, let's go back to your original post, starting with the first paragraph, with key areas underlined:

 

"So,i like drinking in bars and inevitably some of those bars will be girly bars.  I'm a fairly generous bloke,maybe a bit of a pushover and certainly can have a lack of judgement when the beers are necked.  This all leads to regular nights out where i have a bar bill for 3000 baht and i think to myself "I've only had 6 Leo's? How did this happen?"

 

It certainly seems like you are going to girly bars and buying the ladies too many drinks.  How was I supposed to interpret this paragraph? 

 

Your writing isn't entirely clear, but I think you are now stating that you buy drinks for ladies while you are in a girly bar with your wife.  That is unusual.  Then you state that you are buying 60 baht drinks, but originally stated that you end up with a bar bill of 3000 baht, which is fifty 60 baht beers.   Somebody is drinking a lot.

 

I agree with your final sentence above: "MY money my choice my desision which would not be influenced by anyone."  But in view of this, why did you complain about your bar bill and ask for advice on buying drinks for bar ladies.

 

 

Well well one to many sherberts you have had havent you. Please look at this quote below read the name of the poster then look at my name. If you think they are the same person you need help.

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Posted July 27

So,i like drinking in bars and inevitably some of those bars will be girly bars.

I'm a fairly generous bloke,maybe a bit of a pushover and certainly can have a lack of judgement when the beers are necked.

This all leads to regular nights out where i have a bar bill for 3000 baht and i think to myself "I've only had 6 Leo's? How did this happen?"

[jeab1980]

15 minutes ago, heybruce said:

There are many "down to earth beer bars" that don't have women hustling drinks.  I know of one in which I have been friends with the owner for a decade.  I sometimes buy her a drink, and she sometimes reciprocates, but I have never come close to a 3000 tab.

Yet again i think you are rather confused. Stop drinking and look at what your quoting and who you are quoting. Should have gone to spec savers

[jeab1980]

Also why is it unusual to take the wife to a bar for a drink? Perhaps you think they women that is should be chianed to the sink.

Your a mans man are you.

[mogandave]

Also why is it unusual to take the wife to a bar for a drink? Perhaps you think they women that is should be chianed to the sink.
Your a mans man are you.

Wife doesn't drink.

[heybruce]

34 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

Well well one to many sherberts you have had havent you. Please look at this quote below read the name of the poster then look at my name. If you think they are the same person you need help.

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Posted July 27

So,i like drinking in bars and inevitably some of those bars will be girly bars.

I'm a fairly generous bloke,maybe a bit of a pushover and certainly can have a lack of judgement when the beers are necked.

This all leads to regular nights out where i have a bar bill for 3000 baht and i think to myself "I've only had 6 Leo's? How did this happen?"

Ok, I mistook you or the OP.  My apologies.

[heybruce]

29 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

Also why is it unusual to take the wife to a bar for a drink? Perhaps you think they women that is should be chianed to the sink.

Your a mans man are you.

If that is directed to me, I never stated such a thing.  I did state that it is unusual to go to a girly bar with the wife and buy drinks for the working ladies. Do you disagree?

[jeab1980]

Just now, heybruce said:

If that is directed to me, I never stated such a thing.  I did state that it is unusual to go to a girly bar with the wife and buy drinks for the working ladies. Do you disagree?

Yes i totally disagree. A beer bar is a bar we both like to have a drink whilst on holiday. We are not prudes. Beside that two of the ladies we go to see are from the same village we live in and have been and still are good friends with the Mrs.

So yes I totally disagree

[brewsterbudgen]

Yes i totally disagree. A beer bar is a bar we both like to have a drink whilst on holiday. We are not prudes. Beside that two of the ladies we go to see are from the same village we live in and have been and still are good friends with the Mrs.
So yes I totally disagree

Most of my wife's extended (Lao) family work in the "bar industry", so we visit frequently. Not cheap[emoji53]

[jeab1980]

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Most of my wife's extended (Lao) family work in the "bar industry", so we visit frequently. Not cheap

We usualy buy them one drink at lady price then they sit and drink at normal bar prices 60bht. We only see them maybe twice a year in Pattaya.  Quite a few more times up at home when they come up. The other way we do it is to bar fine them for the couple of days were down ensuring we buy them one lady drink everyday so they will get there salary. Then go to another bar. Or over the Island.

Edited August 5, 2017 by jeab1980

[heybruce]

21 hours ago, jeab1980 said:

Yes i totally disagree. A beer bar is a bar we both like to have a drink whilst on holiday. We are not prudes. Beside that two of the ladies we go to see are from the same village we live in and have been and still are good friends with the Mrs.

So yes I totally disagree

Ok, so you do take your wife to a girly bar and buy drinks for the working girls.  However I maintain that is not usual.  We could try to take a poll of TV members to find out.

 

Of course my original post was in response to your post in which you wrote:

 

"Also why is it unusual to take the wife to a bar for a drink? Perhaps you think they women that is should be chianed to the sink.

Your a mans man are you."

 

You grossly misrepresented my earlier post and I corrected you.

Edited August 5, 2017 by heybruce

[jeab1980]

15 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Ok, so you do take your wife to a girly bar and buy drinks for the working girls.  However I maintain that is not usual.  We could try to take a poll of TV members to find out.

 

Of course my original post was in response to your post in which you wrote:

 

"Also why is it unusual to take the wife to a bar for a drink? Perhaps you think they women that is should be chianed to the sink.

Your a mans man are you."

 

You grossly misrepresented my earlier post and I corrected you.

Jesus man your post is so far off the mark they got lost in space. Now stop crying over spilt milk you cocked up mis quoted me. Trying to be all sanctimonious and holier than tho. Now your trying to somehow make out everything you quoted was correct. Read the post you quoted post i said "pehaps you think" how can that possibly misinterpret anything as the word Perhaps gives it away. Now go troll someone else.

Yes i take my wife to a beer bar and buy drinks for our friends as stated in my post. Have you a problem with that.

Edited August 5, 2017 by jeab1980

[heybruce]

39 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

Jesus man your post is so far off the mark they got lost in space. Now stop crying over spilt milk you cocked up mis quoted me. Trying to be all sanctimonious and holier than tho. Now your trying to somehow make out everything you quoted was correct. Read the post you quoted post i said "pehaps you think" how can that possibly misinterpret anything as the word Perhaps gives it away. Now go troll someone else.

Yes i take my wife to a beer bar and buy drinks for our friends as stated in my post. Have you a problem with that.

 

This is the post you replied to:

 

22 hours ago, heybruce said:

If that is directed to me, I never stated such a thing.  I did state that it is unusual to go to a girly bar with the wife and buy drinks for the working ladies. Do you disagree?

"Girly bar", not "beer bar".  You stated that you consider this normal behavior, I maintain that is unusual. Regarding my being "sanctimonious and holier than tho", you are the one who posted:

 

"Also why is it unusual to take the wife to a bar for a drink? Perhaps you think they women that is should be chianed to the sink.

Your a mans man are you."

 

I felt that called for a reply.  Your use of the word "perhaps" does not change the fact that you grossly misrepresented my earlier post.  I am certain that if I posted an insulting speculation about the kind of man you are, qualified with the word "perhaps", you would reply quite angrily.

[jeab1980]

25 minutes ago, heybruce said:

 

This is the post you replied to:

 

"Girly bar", not "beer bar".  You stated that you consider this normal behavior, I maintain that is unusual. Regarding my being "sanctimonious and holier than tho", you are the one who posted:

 

"Also why is it unusual to take the wife to a bar for a drink? Perhaps you think they women that is should be chianed to the sink.

Your a mans man are you."

 

I felt that called for a reply.  Your use of the word "perhaps" does not change the fact that you grossly misrepresented my earlier post.  I am certain that if I posted an insulting speculation about the kind of man you are, qualified with the word "perhaps", you would reply quite angrily.

[WinnieTheKhwai]

8 hours ago, heybruce said:

Ok, so you do take your wife to a girly bar and buy drinks for the working girls.  However I maintain that is not usual.  We could try to take a poll of TV members to find out.

 

 

I've done it just last week.  Or the Mrs. actually buying a drink for one of the staff.   But I would agree that it's not usual.  

 

 

7 hours ago, heybruce said:

I felt that called for a reply.  Your use of the word "perhaps" does not change the fact that you grossly misrepresented my earlier post.  I am certain that if I posted an insulting speculation about the kind of man you are, qualified with the word "perhaps", you would reply quite angrily.

 

No need for the word perhaps I think.    The guy has a strangely combative discussion style.