webfact Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Former marine takes his son to the police claiming training abuses Picture: Thai Rath A former marine has gone with his son to the Sattahip police to complain about abusive and unwarranted training methods in the Thai armed forces. It is the latest such case following the death of a cadet. And now the father has denied that he got a gun from the base's armory and fired at a hospital trying to take someone hostage. Benjaporn Bowonsuwan went with his son Taphaporn to see senior police officers at the Sattahip station armed with pictures of his son's injuries sustained during "Recon" or reconnaissance training. Tanaphorn said that he suffered two broken ribs, was whipped and assaulted repeatedly with an M16. He developed septicemia and had to be hospitalized. The navy told the father he fell down the stairs. Benjaporn said that the training was all wrong and not what he had in his day and he wants it stopped. And he was furious that the base had not owned up like men to what happened earlier in the month. All he got was hollow apologies, he said. He denied earlier reports that he had taken the matter into his own hands by getting a gun from the base and trying to take a person hostage after discharging the weapon in a hospital. Police are investigating. The case comes hot on the heels of the death of a cadet at a training establishment in which the youth's organs were removed before the body was handed back to parents. The parents claim abuse at the hands of trainers in that case too. Source: Thai Rath -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-11-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Should strart a metoo campaign and bring foreward other abused recruits. Shame this government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayadon Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Go Dad!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 5 hours ago, webfact said: The navy told the father he fell down the stairs. I wonder how long it took them to come up with that old chestnut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 The #metoo. Male version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 If the parents keep saying it is not okay to beat and kill our children, things will change. The international media will pick it up eventually. The elites are only really afraid of what foreigners may think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandtee Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I have just watched a video of three year old children being ill treated in a kindergarten. If they are subjected to cruelty at that age, it's quite understandable that they grow up thinking this is the way to get discipline. They become army trainers. The military had better get a grip of this situation before the public turn ugly. And who can blame them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Closing ranks and now they are it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 The new favourite 'word of the Year' - "Complicit" can now be tried out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyman58 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 17 hours ago, pattayadon said: Go Dad!! This is how it will go Dad has no chance in this The police will act sincere to the father then as soon he leaves the room the police will ring the chief of armed forces. They will make up some bullshit and spread rumors about the family and sweep it under the carpet If that kid has any idea what danger he is in now i would refuse to go back If he does he will end up in the gulf of Thailand Swimming exercise gone wrong official statement. The investigation the police will do will be very quick Ask yourself? Who has the most power in Thailand ? The Armed Forces or the keystone cops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyman58 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Look at the police officer talking to dad he is shaking in his boots He knows its true but cant do anything about it Case closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 16 hours ago, yellowboat said: The international media will pick it up eventually. Which will make absolutely no difference. Dad is an ex-marine? Then he should go to the base and talk to the officer in charge of training. Sadly the whistle blowers son's military career is tainted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Slowly but surely it's all starting to unravel.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 I think that my wife was in the army, she can't wait to send me packing everyday for my daily exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 There are 2 choices, be the beater or be the beaten. I imagine this is sorted out in the first week. I have an 11 year old son that might end up in the army by no choice of his own. I'm grateful to the bravery of this father that will not stand by and wait until his son is dead. There have been too many deaths due to the code of silence. I wish all the fathers of cadets that "fell down stairs" would have the courage to stand up for their sons. Well done dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 On 12/1/2017 at 12:26 PM, Happyman58 said: This is how it will go Dad has no chance in this The police will act sincere to the father then as soon he leaves the room the police will ring the chief of armed forces. They will make up some bullshit and spread rumors about the family and sweep it under the carpet If that kid has any idea what danger he is in now i would refuse to go back If he does he will end up in the gulf of Thailand Swimming exercise gone wrong official statement. The investigation the police will do will be very quick Ask yourself? Who has the most power in Thailand ? The Armed Forces or the keystone cops? similar to what would happen back in the US or Australia I would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyman58 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Just now, steven100 said: similar to what would happen back in the US or Australia I would say. bBig difference Steve If that kid dies in the future nothing will be done about it But if that kid dies in Aus i am sure lots would be done about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, steven100 said: similar to what would happen back in the US or Australia I would say. How many teenage boys have died whilst undergoing military training in the us or Australia have you heard of lately? ? In Thailand it's almost 1 a year of the last few years . Could you point out the similarities perhaps? ? Do you even have any idea what it takes to raise a child to 18 years old and get him into that school? Only to have him come home in pieces in a polystyrene box with his name on it. No, it is not similar to US and Australia in any way shape or form. Edited December 4, 2017 by greenchair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, steven100 said: similar to what would happen back in the US or Australia I would say. That is the problem. Deflecting criticism as apposed to owning up. If the military cannot do the manly thing, who will ? The US and other western military bodies do not have conscripts and must rely on volunteers. If they act without regard to human life, they will get no volunteers. That and life saving is a badge of heroism and considered as prerequisites for elite soldiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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