Money pours in for Brit and Thai wife and child down on their luck in Buriram

[alex8912]

12 hours ago, 2008bangkok said:

If you don't ask you don't get. No need to slam the guy.

You either choose to chip in or you go about your business as normal

 

I think he has enough chips in him! Also something tells me he did not just wake up in his rather large physique this year and in poor health. But he did decide to have a child at age 55 which seems like another poor  life choice for him. 

[Colabamumbai]

Compassion is good. Negative comments demean you.

[Destiny1990]

Seems he doesnt cut costs by eating less.

[alex8912]

1 minute ago, Colabamumbai said:

Compassion is good. Negative comments demean you.

Let me guess you are fat.  Don't you think many comments would be filled with compassion if a fit 65 year old was shown in the picture?  Someone who was taking care of himself and his family and then ran into trouble? Perhaps someone who did not decide to have a child at age 55. 

[cplgil]

Give him money?? 555 Send his fat ass back to his country. These fools need to learn when its time to go home to reality

[thaimelody]

Returning to UK?

 

1) 30 years out of the country will net him almost zero pension. Who will look after him there?

2) Run away from his daughter and wife. There is no way the wife will be granted a visa under the current system.

 

 

[brewsterbudgen]

 

Not so sure about that. If he has lived here that long he is not entitled to free care on the NHS. My understanding is that if you are a British expat that has been out of the country for a while ( a year or two ? ) you no longer qualify for free care.

 

If this is wrong I would like to know what the exact rule is.

If he can get back to the UK he will be treated. There may a bill to pay following the treatment unless he can show he's returned to the UK for good - which might be difficult. However, the NHS would not refuse to treat him.

 

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[Classic Ray]

16 hours ago, smedly said:

surely he has a UK state pension of some sort and no harm to him but his health issues look like he has stuffed himself over the years into a slug state, does he smoke drink ?

 

Pretty sad state of affairs that only he has responsibility for

Unless he made National Insurance contributions in the UK for thirty years any state pension would be minimal or non-existent. He may even be too young still for old age pension as rules changed.

 

Had thirty years here to arrange a private pension so? I paid 11% of my salary for thirty years just to stop this situation.

[catman20]

16 hours ago, colinneil said:

  My pride would never allow me to beg off anyone.

Always done things myself always will.

ive met a few men here with nothing they seem to have no shame no self respect and in many ways i think they deserve everything they get.

[catman20]

this guy seems to of done everything wrong in his life, whats he doing having kids at his age with minimum or no income

[catman20]

16 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

yada, yada, if you do't want to help then just shut up about it... of course you want to do a bit of virtue signalling though.

 

Some people get down on their luck because of different circumstances.

i believe most people get down on their luck through their own stupidity. i cant see anything the OP done right in his life.

[sanuk711]

16 hours ago, apalink_thailand said:

and that the Embassy can at least give him some support.

Did you not read the story apalink....he is British..... British Embassy/Support now there's  an oxymoron for the day............

[smew]

Give and it will never stop easy money is very addictive to the receiver. Here we go again : internet begging.

I am down on my luck also, need my 2018 Porsche 960 to cheer me up. I will provide a bank account number in my next post 

[Just Weird]

17 hours ago, colinneil said:

Sorry he has lived here 30 years, and has made no provision for his old age.

I am paraplegic, my wife has to take care of all my needs, yes even toilet.

Do i go am the internet begging? no just get on with it.

He did not go on the internet begging either.

Edited February 17, 2018 by Just Weird

[Runamile]

Here we go again. The get back to UK merchants, with their pie-in-the sky notions of that all-giving UK Welfare State:

 

1. He will have no entitlement to free NHS use at this juncture, beyond initial diagnostics.

2. He will have no entitlement to income or housing benefits - not habitually resident.

3. If he has a pension entitlement it is equally as payable in Thailand as UK, but it's very unlikely he ever made sufficient contributions in UK to have a state pension entitlement. If that is wrong by a few years, it would be unlikely to yield a pension of significance. You need the full thirty years to receive anything of significance, currently circa £163 a week.

[soalbundy]

17 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

These donations will do them for a short period of time, but the fund should have, realistically, been set up to get him a one way ticket to his home country. The way it is now, there is no long term solution.

what and leave his child in the sh1t ? I don't think he will get help in the UK he has been away to long,where is he going to live? He wont get free treatment or benefits, so he is better off where he is. With treatment here he may well be able to function again. 

[Jip99]

4 minutes ago, Runamile said:

Here we go again. The get back to UK merchants, with their pie-in-the sky notions of that all-giving UK Welfare State:

 

1. He will have no entitlement to free NHS use at this juncture, beyond initial diagnostics.

2. He will have no entitlement to income or housing benefits - not habitually resident.

3. If he has a pension entitlement it is equally as payable in Thailand as UK, but it's very unlikely he ever made sufficient contributions in UK to have a state pension entitlement. If that is wrong by a few years, it would be unlikely to yield a pension of significance. You need the full thirty years to receive anything of significance, currently circa £163 a week.

 

 

Presenting himself at A&E and declaring his intention to remain in the UK will be sufficient.

 

 

There is evidence for this.

[Neeranam]

17 hours ago, colinneil said:

Sorry he has lived here 30 years, and has made no provision for his old age.

I am paraplegic, my wife has to take care of all my needs, yes even toilet.

Do i go am the internet begging? no just get on with it.

Did he go on the internet or some compassionate being, unlike many here ?

Oh how we love to bring others down to feel better ourselves.

You have no idea about this family.

 

Bad times can happen to any of us.

 

He should use the money to buy back 10 years of class 2 NI contributions. I did this for 65,000 baht.

 

Give him money or shut up.

 

[soalbundy]

17 hours ago, smedly said:

surely he has a UK state pension of some sort and no harm to him but his health issues look like he has stuffed himself over the years into a slug state, does he smoke drink ?

 

Pretty sad state of affairs that only he has responsibility for

If he has been here for 30 years he is unlikely to have a meaningful pension. If you had been lying in bed for many months maybe you would look like a slug. If they have no money it is unlikely that he smokes or drinks, not that that has anything to do with you as a non contributor. Oh yes, and sod his wife and child, it's his responsibility.

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, Colabamumbai said:

Compassion is good. Negative comments demean you.

Right on brother.

 

 

[dotpoom]

17 hours ago, colinneil said:

Sorry he has lived here 30 years, and has made no provision for his old age.

I am paraplegic, my wife has to take care of all my needs, yes even toilet.

Do i go am the internet begging? no just get on with it.

I know what you mean Colin and would be of the same frame of mind myself......but.....maybe it was not him who innicated the appeal online, but somebody who was concerned for the family.

  I consider myself a "strong" person (am presently seperated from the Mrs. over her giving her son a lift to BKK when they're are plenty of busses and vans going day and night). But I think back on the time when I ended up sleeping rough myself due to acute alcoholism....with the help of strangers I overcame my addiction ( took 30 years, mind you). What I am trying to say is...we are not all great at overcoming our problems without help. 

  My tragic experiences in life have turned out to be my greatest assests today.....but were it not for those people who loved me until I learned how to love myself.....I doubt, no, I'm certain, I would not be around to share this with you now.

[Just Weird]

15 hours ago, sead said:

Sure i feel sorry for this guy but there are people in more need that him. He really should get a ticket back home and he would atleast get cared for. 

Then when he is well again he could go back to Thailand.

Get a ticket "back home"?  So easy, isn't it?

 

Thailand sounds like it is his home and what if he has nowhere in the UK to go, many expats only have family in Thailand, not everyone is able to keep a property there to go to in an emergency, are they?  In his present state how would he get there anyway?

[soalbundy]

7 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

Presenting himself at A&E and declaring his intention to remain in the UK will be sufficient.

 

 

There is evidence for this.

declaring his intention to stay....at what address ? He obviously can't even live alone so who is going to care for him. A and E ? I've read about that thank you.

[Neeranam]

17 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

yada, yada, if you do't want to help then just shut up about it... of course you want to do a bit of virtue signalling though.

 

Some people get down on their luck because of different circumstances.

Absolutely. ANYONE can get a disease, like depression, or alcoholism, which affects their thinking to provide for the future.

 

Thank Buddha, Thai people are compassionate and realize that helping others is good thing to do.

[Just Weird]

15 hours ago, MaeJoMTB said:

He probably buys a new married VISA each year, like the rest of us.

Speak for yourself.

[catman20]

15 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

If he has been here for 30 years he is unlikely to have a meaningful pension. If you had been lying in bed for many months maybe you would look like a slug. If they have no money it is unlikely that he smokes or drinks, not that that has anything to do with you as a non contributor. Oh yes, and sod his wife and child, it's his responsibility.

Oh yes, and sod his wife and child, it's his responsibility.

 

well it is isnt it ?

 

theirs no one here to blame but the guy himself, its a tough life and you have to learn to take care of yourself and your family.

 

you click on sad but  its true.

Edited February 17, 2018 by catman20

[trianglechoke]

WOW, is Thailand so full of bitter expats that all we can do is insult him?

At least some people, myself included, gave and saw beyond their own bitterness. Think about his poor wife and kid if seeing him in a decent light is sooooooooooooooooooo bl%%dy difficult.

[Just Weird]

9 hours ago, SanSaiExPat said:

How does he qualify for and renew his visa?

Maybe he got his last visa extension before he fell on hard times?

[Neeranam]

8 minutes ago, dotpoom said:

I know what you mean Colin and would be of the same frame of mind myself......but.....maybe it was not him who innicated the appeal online, but somebody who was concerned for the family.

  I consider myself a "strong" person (am presently seperated from the Mrs. over her giving her son a lift to BKK when they're are plenty of busses and vans going day and night). But I think back on the time when I ended up sleeping rough myself due to acute alcoholism....with the help of strangers I overcame my addiction ( took 30 years, mind you). What I am trying to say is...we are not all great at overcoming our problems without help. 

  My tragic experiences in life have turned out to be my greatest assests today.....but were it not for those people who loved me until I learned how to love myself.....I doubt, no, I'm certain, I would not be around to share this with you now.

I was a hopless alcoholic too.

This had nothing to do with lack of self will or being irresponsible.

One kind stranger took me to hospital 20 years ago and paid for it. Others walked straight passed me, even spitting on me.

Thais looked after me for years when I was on the streets. I didn't think then of paying my national insurance to the UK !

 

Thank God for compassion.

 

 

Edited February 17, 2018 by Neeranam

[Just Weird]

6 hours ago, Thechook said:

I have to set up one of these go fund me things, they seem like great little earners.

You make it sound as though this man did that.