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A nice V7 Racer

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“If you ride the Black Shadow at top speed for any length of time, you will almost certainly die.” - Hunter S. Thompson.

[KNJ]

There were a few V-Due made, and they command high prices nowadays, but as you say there were some serious issues.

 

Honda did a good attempt with the NSR 400, a V3, over 70 HP as standard and 90HP with some mild fettling, chassis was pretty good too compared to what was in production at the time.

 

Of course Yamaha did the RD500 LC with close to 90HP as standard and Suzuki the RG 500 with even more.

 

Any of these three top notch for Freddie Spencer wantabee's

 

Try and find a decent one of any of these nowadays and you wonder if the price tag is the previous owners telephone number. For me despite being smaller, and only a triple the Honda has my vote, especially in the Rothmans colours

[Justgrazing]

Ossa with LC engine from last frame .. That is a nice looking bike and would look even better with proper spoked wheels rather than those twiglet all'y things .. 

 

[canthai55]

Spoked wheels - brought to you by the wooden wagons of Yore

Wouldn't have another set.

[VocalNeal]

2 hours ago, KNJ said:

There were a few V-Due made, and they command high prices nowadays, but as you say there were some serious issues.

 

Honda did a good attempt with the NSR 400, a V3, over 70 HP as standard and 90HP with some mild fettling, chassis was pretty good too compared to what was in production at the time.

 

Of course Yamaha did the RD500 LC with close to 90HP as standard and Suzuki the RG 500 with even more.

 

Any of these three top notch for Freddie Spencer wantabee's

 

Try and find a decent one of any of these nowadays and you wonder if the price tag is the previous owners telephone number. For me despite being smaller, and only a triple the Honda has my vote, especially in the Rothmans colours

 

You could settle for approaching 70hp from a 300 conversion for a NSR250. They are here and are not like Unicorn droppings. 

 

 

In days of yore I alsmost bought a NS400R but sadly.......

[Justgrazing]

2 hours ago, KNJ said:

There were a few V-Due made, and they command high prices nowadays, but as you say there were some serious issues.

 

Honda did a good attempt with the NSR 400, a V3, over 70 HP as standard and 90HP with some mild fettling, chassis was pretty good too compared to what was in production at the time.

 

Of course Yamaha did the RD500 LC with close to 90HP as standard and Suzuki the RG 500 with even more.

 

Any of these three top notch for Freddie Spencer wantabee's

 

Try and find a decent one of any of these nowadays and you wonder if the price tag is the previous owners telephone number. For me despite being smaller, and only a triple the Honda has my vote, especially in the Rothmans colours

Yes .. The NSR 400 does command eye watering money now es'pesh the Rothmans paint job .. seen one in the red , blue and yellow paint down Brighton way yrs ago what struck me was how small it was .. From what I've ever read about 'em their thirst for fuel and oil was spectacular .. Ditto the other two mentioned rare now and expensive .. 

NS's ugly younger bro' the 250 MVX from about '83 but in essence the same engine .. 

 

[brokenbone]

On 7/4/2018 at 7:52 AM, MartinL said:

At first glance, it looks like there'll be some burnt legs and melted kickstart rubber for riders of this bike. I'm sure that's something RE's designers have ensured won't happen, though. 

i am not, i have seen really dumb ass bikes

that was built for the purpose of burning legs

[Justgrazing]

Not only the engine casing but check out the shape and art of the petrol and oil tanks on the New Map .. 

Lovely old Guzzi single in a beautiful maroon colour .. 

Full bike pic' of Schüttoff from earlier .. 

 

[Justgrazing]

On 3/9/2019 at 11:42 AM, ballpoint said:

However, the Merlin engine has appeared a number of times in this thread, and we seem to all be aficionados of well crafted machinery, merging form and <deleted>nction to the highest level, 

Not strictly bike but Jaguar originally originally started out as sidecar makers The Swallow Sidecar Co so I claim the long lost link .. Next best thing to a Merlin for ordinary folk is the Jag' 5.3 V12 .. originally available in 290 hp carb'd form finishing up 335 hp in Fi 6.0 form when phased out 20 odd yrs ago .. 

Tuned to the max' early Heron head version capable of shunting out 700+ hp in 7.0 litre form as the XJR9 Le Mans racer demo'd late 80's and with a sound bettered only by the Spit' itself .. 

Pretty much same engine but retaining the standard 12 lead distributor cap centrally mounted and less curvy swervy exhaust manifolds .. 

Big fave with power boat racers as it can be extended out to near 8.2 litres with the right throw crankshaft and max' oversize pistons and liners .. Reliable , smooth as silk to drive literally and goes as only 12 cyls can do .. 

 

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32 minutes ago, Justgrazing said:

Not strictly bike but Jaguar originally originally started out as sidecar makers The Swallow Sidecar Co so I claim the long lost link ..

Yep, they changed their name from SS to Jaguar in 1945.  SS not being too popular a name due to the war.

 

Here's an example of their work, a Swallow Model 4 sidecar attached to a Brough Superior SS80 - SS for Super Sports in this case.  Must be worth a fortune.

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Another sidecar, somewhat lacking the gravitas of the previous, but giving a new meaning to taking the dog for a ride in the boot.

[Nyezhov]

yall say sidecar?

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15 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

yall say sidecar?

I'll see your sidecar, and raise you one:

[Justgrazing]

12 hours ago, canthai55 said:

Spoked wheels - brought to you by the wooden wagons of Yore

Wouldn't have another set.

Yeah but .. C'mon man tell me a nice looking set of polished spokers don't look cool .. 

Love that Yoshi grenade launcher 'zorst ..

 

[Justgrazing]

Stunning Motosacoche 500 and period advertising art ..

Awesome old Koehler Escoffier 1000 ..

German Bucker 1000 .. like Tornax Bucker used JAP engines .. 

 

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It being a quiet day at work, here's some trivia.  There's previously been posts on Edward Turner, Brough Superiors, Jaguars and Merlin engines, and there are links between them all.

 

George Brough worked in his father's motorcycle factory, but left in 1919 to start his own company, because his father wouldn't allow him to make high performance bikes.  He named his range "Brough Superior", which may have been a dig at his father's factory.  His father didn't take it too well anyway.  He died in 1970.

 

William Lyons was one of the founders of the Swallow Sidecar Company, later becoming Jaguar Cars Limited.  He owned a number of bikes, including Brough Superiors, and that brand became the preferred one for attaching his sidecars to.  Brough was reportedly not too happy at the SS name being used by Lyons - his own bikes were designated SS for Super Sport, but they later became friends, and he owned a number of Jaguar cars.

 

In 1960, Jaguar bought Daimler from BSA, bringing Edward Turner into the story.  Turner had designed the Daimler Hemi head 2.5 and 4.5 Litre V8s, and, even though no longer part of the company that owned it, was still heavily involved in its development under Jaguar.  Apparently, he and Lyons did not enjoy a good relationship, but he had great admiration for the Daimler team "The Daimler engineers were the most remarkable I have ever worked with - the finest bunch of design engineers I've ever had the joy to command".

 

The Merlin engine was of course made by Rolls Royce.  Brough Superiors were called the Rolls Royce of motorcycles, and the SS Jaguars the 'poor mans Rolls Royce'.  Edward Turner used an alloy developed by Rolls Royce - Hiduminium RR56, for the connecting rods and bearings in his first Triumph twin engines in 1937, being the first person to do so and giving a big advantage over steel components.

 

Finally, the last true Brough Superior was made in 1940, when the factory was turned over to the war effort; producing components for Merlin engines.

[Justgrazing]

Excellent 'round up above bp .. You've won a lesser known Brough 680 for that .. Daimler's V8 was an absolute jewel of an engine beloved in many disciplines of Motorsport right upto historic drag racing .. All'y hemi heads in the mid 50's when a lot of car makers were still happy with cast iron sidevalve lumps .. 4.5 is even rarer than 2.5 having only been fitted in the 420 limo' and is highly highly prized .. This engine in 2.5 or 4.5 always looks good with everything in proportion and correct angle Vee .. 

One in photo whooped up a bit with 4 downdraught's .. 

Just check out those exhaust stubs on a Merlin .. 

Super JAP lump in a Brough .. 

 

[Justgrazing]

Wooler 500 flat 4 mid 50's with interesting headlamp tank setup ..

Engine pic' was the original lump as in two flat twins atop one another but it was pony by all account's so they redesigned it as a conventional flat 4 .. Only 5 ever built , then like many others of the time fell by the wayside .. 

Early early Wooler with Doug' style flat twin .. 

 

 

 

[thaiguzzi]

3 hours ago, ballpoint said:

It being a quiet day at work, here's some trivia.

So, you were paid to write that?

Gizza job mate...........

 

Chops. Triumph chops.

 

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36 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

So, you were paid to write that?

Gizza job mate...........

Paid to be here.  Some days I'm here till late, some days I can skive off early...  I'd rather be out on my bike though, which is why I have just 2 weeks and 2 days left before retiring.

 

[canthai55]

Congrats !

 

 

[Justgrazing]

Found some better photo's of this ..

30's German Windhoff 750 inline 4 cyl .. 

Look at the all in one engine block with sump at the bottom .! And the block height above the crank line suggests its a slower-revving long stroke = goodly amount of low down torque .. Superb old motorcycle that .. 

 

[Yellowtail]

16 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Yeah but .. C'mon man tell me a nice looking set of polished spokers don't look cool .. 

Love that Yoshi grenade launcher 'zorst ..

 

 

4

 

 

Wire wheels, yuck!

 

 

 

[thaiguzzi]

Some porn that actually belongs to me...

 

My Guzzi headlamp, avec vintage 60's genuine Moto Guzzi speedo and modern mini German electronic rev counter sans early 70's Ducati headlamp.

Idiot lights are sensible - oil pressure and volts.

No neutral, high beam, indicator garbage.

Liquid filled OPG off to the left just aft of the headstock.

 

L/H sidepanel...

 

My Triumph yellow & black braided cloth copper cored HT lead off a magneto connected to BRASS plug caps.

 

 

[guzzi850m2]

2 hours ago, thaiguzzi said:

Some porn that actually belongs to me...

 

My Guzzi headlamp, avec vintage 60's genuine Moto Guzzi speedo and modern mini German electronic rev counter sans early 70's Ducati headlamp.

Idiot lights are sensible - oil pressure and volts.

No neutral, high beam, indicator garbage.

Liquid filled OPG off to the left just aft of the headstock.

 

L/H sidepanel...

 

My Triumph yellow & black braided cloth copper cored HT lead off a magneto connected to BRASS plug caps.

 

 

Photos of the whole bike please.

 

Is it in Thailand?

[Justgrazing]

9 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

 

 

Wire wheels, yuck!

 

 

 

Nice link in there YT as that's a series III V12 and we'd neatly incorporated Jaguar's n' Merlin's a bit earlier .. The wires .? I wouldn't have it any other way on that car .. Steels are OK but wires are class on that sort of motor .. Alloys .? on that .? No way .. The E type owners club would be up in arms at the very suggestion .. 

[Justgrazing]

Dinky DK 125 at the top .. Love the front end on that .. 

DK 350 V3 stroker racer from mid 50's .. reckoned to put out 55 hp which isn't bad for the day .. 

DK supercharged stroker late'ish 50's with better pic's of the odd piston setup .. This thing absolutely howls .. 

DKW became part of Auto Union mid'dish 30's along with Horch and Wanderer in the same sort of consolidations that were going thru,' the British motor industry .. A U then bankrolled DK's 2 stroke development making them one of the leading pioneers of 2 stroke engineering as part of the regeneration of German Industry promoted by Herr Hitler .. Part of that promotion was Auto Union doing battle with Mercedes as to just who made the best race car in the world as a showcase for German motor Engineering which is where the bottom two pic's come in .. 

1937 Auto Union 6.0 litre V16 with Root's type supercharger which had to be bevel gear driven as it ran at 90° to the crank .. Check out the size of the carbs just beneath the hand at the top of the shot .. Upwards of 650 hp which was a lot back then so little wonder it needed double rear wheels to try and hang on to it .. 

 

[thaiguzzi]

10 hours ago, guzzi850m2 said:

Photos of the whole bike please.

 

Is it in Thailand?

Which one?

Yes both bikes in Thailand.

 

More self porn -

My two Yamaha ty250 Mono trials bikes,

'Ol Blu & 'Ol Yeller.

Like a woman's curves.........

 

 

 

[Justgrazing]

How nice is that .. 

And another going all 'ooligan ..