Alleged Koh Tao rape victim in her first interview accuses police of suppressing truth

[natway09]

I think she is way out of her league. 

Where are the 5 GUYS she was sharing a room with ???

[Superphoenix]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

If you don't like the rules here, don't come here.

It's really easy.

 

I'm happy enough to accept the Thai government, army and police the way they are.

If I didn't like it I would leave.

 

I would suggest Somalia or Afganistan for your next holiday destinations.

You really have no clue about the Land of Smile... why are u giving advice to others where to go or where to stay?? Nobody ask you about that. Why not naming the facts? What is your problem? You’re just blind for the reality. Yes, we have to accept the way they are here, but that doesn’t mean not to criticize or tell it by name...

[AlexRich]

44 minutes ago, balo said:

Complete nonsense , you claim that less than 20% of Uk adults take drugs, and that might be, but it is not representative for the young people who go to the Full moon parties. Drugs and booze and sex, thats whats it all about.
I would say 90% of them come for that reason.

When you go to a Full moon party you know what to expect, try it and see for yourself.
 

 

Are you our resident Full Moon Party expert ... pontificating on the drug habits of young people from your bar stool? Young people can be foolish but they are not blind to the drug rules in Thailand ... the majority go to drink and party ... some don't drink, just party ... and a very small minority stupidly take drugs. Bear in mind it is well documented that people get set up by Police informants, who sell them something and then tip off the Police. Some fools get caught, most are aware and don't get involved.

 

 

[rkidlad]

4 minutes ago, BigC said:

I am sorry but too many holes in her story from witnesses. Why go full moon party then report it? The fight at the full moon party between boyfriend and another Forang. Then it seems but I am not sure but it was his girls mother that went ballistic at her story then reported it not the alleged victim. 

 

Koh Tao has suffered allot due to fake news plus how can the guardian publish a story based on 1 sided view 

 

shows me that the media shall publish anything  that makes a good story, true or not

 

now I know that the UK media are proper BS merchants look at how the bbc portrayed tommy Robinson 

Listen to her interview. Try to put yourself in the place of someone who had just been raped. Also, her and her friend said they tried to report it on Pangan but a local police officer there said they couldn’t talk about it cos it happened on Kho Tao. Does what the police officer said to them on Pangan seem like something a local police officer might say? 

 

My friend’s missus had her phone stolen at a nightclub in a Bangkok. They went to nearest police booth to report it. He said the police were completely indifferent. He asked them to check the CCTV. They said the nightclub owner would have to come to request they did that. The police officer then asked my mate’s ‘Thai’ girlfriend, “Your boyfriend farang. Why he not buy you a new phone?”. Not only do I completely believe my friend about the version of events, I also would completely expect that kind of attitude.  

 

Observe your surroundings and take it in. Makes life a hell of a lot easier to digest. 

[Chris Lawrence]

23 hours ago, Happy enough said:

so come back and file the complaint as requested by the RTP. it's a must. otherwise it's all hearsay. even scotland yard can't do anything

I don't think she feels safe? The young woman is telling people it is not safe to go there. 

[frank83628]

 
Are you our resident Full Moon Party expert ... pontificating on the drug habits of young people from your bar stool? Young people can be foolish but they are not blind to the drug rules in Thailand ... the majority go to drink and party ... some don't drink, just party ... and a very small minority stupidly take drugs. Bear in mind it is well documented that people get set up by Police informants, who sell them something and then tip off the Police. Some fools get caught, most are aware and don't get involved.
 
 

I say a lot more take drugs than you may think.

People used to read up on places like thailand in the lonely planet books etc, now a lot would just go from what they see on fb posts, none mentioning any dangers..just party photos.

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[Crash999]

1 hour ago, natway09 said:

I think she is way out of her league. 

Where are the 5 GUYS she was sharing a room with ???

It was 3 guys. One is the ‘new boyfriend’ and the police said they wanted to interview the other two but they’ve long since left Thailand. 

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, rkidlad said:

Try to put yourself in the place of someone who had just been raped.

I thought it happened 2 months ago, 'just been' is last night, maybe the night before.

Anyway, I'm glad it wasn't significant enough for her to interrupt her next night out at the full moon party.

Edited September 11, 2018 by BritManToo

[duanebigsby]

11 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I thought it happened 2 months ago, 'just been' is last night, maybe the night before.

You've been criticizing her  first reactions of 2 months ago, and  at that point she "had just been raped."  So rkidlad has every right to use the present perfect tense  to ask you to put yourself in her shoes. 

 

So many Brits whinge about us colonials "bastardizing " the English language, but you don't seem to comprehend it fully. 

[SpaceKadet]

On 9/10/2018 at 5:14 PM, Samui Bodoh said:

"...She accused them of suppressing the truth about the brutal attack, during a gap year holiday over the summer, because it would have a negative impact on tourism..."

 

It is hard to argue with the above.

 

Two questions to my fellow TVF members;

 

1. Do you believe that the police are more interested in investigating her story or protecting the tourism industry?
2. Would you allow your wife/daughter/sister/female friend visit there alone?

 

I know what my answers would be...

 

 

My sister, definitely yes. If anything similar would happen to her, she would go on the black market, buy biggest baddest guns she could lay her hands on and go back and clean up the island. She is like that, my sister is.

[cyberfarang]

5 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

The woman has no reason to lie. She has nothing to gain and everything to lose from the  state sanctioned attack on her. What would she want with the public  humiliation and embarrassment that this matter brings.

I see some ignorant  fools have accused the woman of coat tailing onto the #metoo movement, but she has not accused any specific person, nor sought financial gain. She has only pointed out that she was assaulted and was unable to obtain a response from the local police. Why does this surprise anyone? Women are  raped daily in Thailand, and they  often have no one to go to for help. What do some of the idiots accusing the  woman of fabricating this event  believe happens to women in the rural or out island locales who are sexually assaulted? Do they honestly believe that the children and adults who are raped and brutalized can just pick up a phone and get help like that?   

 

The island cops demand that the woman return and at the same time threaten to imprison her if she can't support her claim. Just on that basis alone it is obvious that the cops are trying to intimidate and bully her. The UK has a moral and legal duty to stand up for this woman.

"She has not accused any specific person".

 

Good point and that`s because there is no specific person or people to accuse. They simply don`t exist. The woman cried wolf rape and it`s gone much further than she had anticipated.

 

So who is the mystery guy that was lying next to her or standing over her smiling on the beach? No description or details given. Another point, after raping, why would a rapist hang around on the scene after the deed so he could be identified or even apprehended? No evidence, no names, no possible suspects, no nothing. And that`s exactly what the police have to work on; NOTHING.

 

 

 

For the time being lets call him Phantom X

[sambum]

36 minutes ago, SpaceKadet said:

My sister, definitely yes. If anything similar would happen to her, she would go on the black market, buy biggest baddest guns she could lay her hands on and go back and clean up the island. She is like that, my sister is.

Any relation?

 

[shillhater]

5 minutes ago, cyberfarang said:

"She has not accused any specific person".

 

Good point and that`s because there is no specific person or people to accuse. They simply don`t exist. The woman cried wolf rape and it`s gone much further than she had anticipated.

 

So who is the mystery guy that was lying next to her or standing over her smiling on the beach? No description or details given. Another point, after raping, why would a rapist hang around on the scene after the deed so he could be identified or even apprehended? No evidence, no names, no possible suspects, no nothing. And that`s exactly what the police have to work on; NOTHING.

 

 

 

For the time being lets call him Phantom X

silly girl she should have asked the rapist his name before he jogged on...bad trolling pal..

[SpaceKadet]

55555, Vaguely.... But it is true. My dear baby Sis is very vindictive. She won't cry for long. Think she got that after our father....

But by biggest baddest guns, I don't necessarily mean hardware.

[frank83628]

"She has not accused any specific person".
 
Good point and that`s because there is no specific person or people to accuse. They simply don`t exist. The woman cried wolf rape and it`s gone much further than she had anticipated.
 
So who is the mystery guy that was lying next to her or standing over her smiling on the beach? No description or details given. Another point, after raping, why would a rapist hang around on the scene after the deed so he could be identified or even apprehended? No evidence, no names, no possible suspects, no nothing. And that`s exactly what the police have to work on; NOTHING.
 
 
 
For the time being lets call him Phantom X

Indeed, the st 'broke' they basically accused sunnie the 'smiling' barman.. as though he hung around after raping her?
Then days later it comes out she was anally raped conveniently tying it to the D&H case, surely such a big connection as that would have had the st chomping at the bit to print...then the story as to what she did after changed....
The fact that the st were involved at all i'd say it call bs, never mind the changing story.

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[bslmh]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

If you're interviewed by the police in the UK, they record it and give you a copy of the tape at the end of the interview.

Roadside stops in Thailand, I'm always recording.

 

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Trust No-one.

Are you also recording when you bang girls ? (Just in case of being accused of rape)

[Walter Travolta]

On 9/10/2018 at 11:08 AM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

And face getting arrested and prosecuted by the Thai authorities for defaming their and the island's "good" name????

 

Just posting accounts of the episode on Facebook has gotten uninvolved Thai people arrested. What do you think the authorities would do if they got their hands on the source of the allegations that they consider false?

 

So are you suggesting that because the Thai police are maybe a bit crooked and might not give the complaint the due dilligence it deserves, she may as well not bother?

 

Some of us believe she is lying and some of us believe the cops are sweeping it under the carpet. Whatever the truth is, Happy Enough is correct in what he/she says. The process can only begin if she comes back to Thailand with the clothing evidence and files the complaint there. 

 

My own personal opinion, and has been from the start, is she is lying. I guess if she decides not to go back to Thailand, we will never know

[rkidlad]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

I thought it happened 2 months ago, 'just been' is last night, maybe the night before.

Anyway, I'm glad it wasn't significant enough for her to interrupt her next night out at the full moon party.

Again, you’re judging her for not reporting it right away. So ‘just been’ is the scenario I’m asking you to empathise with her about. 

 

Are you really British? You seem to have a tenuous grasp on the English at times. I really hope you’re not British. 

[sanemax]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

I thought it happened 2 months ago, 'just been' is last night, maybe the night before.

Anyway, I'm glad it wasn't significant enough for her to interrupt her next night out at the full moon party.

What are you basing that on , that she went to the full moon party ?

Just the receptionists word from the condo ?

The receptionist who denied a rape happened ?

[Walter Travolta]

On 9/10/2018 at 11:20 AM, AlexRich said:

 

Yes, you are completely wrong. All the Thai authorities have done is spent time trying to make the complaint go away and blame the victim. The island is run by criminals and the Thai authorities have no interest in seeking the truth ... as you might find out one day.

Have you been in the police offices all this time throughout ? No you havent. So to PRESUME that "all the Thai authorities have done is spent time trying to make the complaint go away and blame the victim" is laughable because you are only stating your opinion. To call her a victim is complete guess work as there is no proof she is a victim, of rape anyway. 

 

Happy Enough's opinion is better informed than yours due to the fact he suggests she simply comes back to Thailand with the evidence she says she has and makes the complaint IN THAILAND. Why did she not do this when she was IN THAILAND and claims she was raped IN THAILAND

 

[metisdead]

Some more troll posts and the replies have been removed. 

[AlexRich]

12 minutes ago, Walter Travolta said:

Have you been in the police offices all this time throughout ? No you havent. So to PRESUME that "all the Thai authorities have done is spent time trying to make the complaint go away and blame the victim" is laughable because you are only stating your opinion. To call her a victim is complete guess work as there is no proof she is a victim, of rape anyway. 

 

Happy Enough's opinion is better informed than yours due to the fact he suggests she simply comes back to Thailand with the evidence she says she has and makes the complaint IN THAILAND. Why did she not do this when she was IN THAILAND and claims she was raped IN THAILAND

 

 

Happily Enough is unfortunately ill-informed but you are absolutely clueless ... the girl reported the rape and theft to Thai Police but they refused to register her rape complaint. This happened in Thailand, you'll be pleased to know. 

 

The Thai authorities have already portrayed her as a liar, despite not registering her complaint and receiving no statement from her directly. Indeed, they appear to want to ban her from the country for besmirching the reputation of Koh Tao island ... now that is what's really laughable. 

 

Another apologist for rape and criminality. Let's hope you can dance as well as your brother John, Walter, I'd hate to think of you as just an angry bar dweller with little to offer the world but bile and misogyny.

 

Edited September 11, 2018 by AlexRich

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, bslmh said:

Are you also recording when you bang girls ? (Just in case of being accused of rape)

1

I've always thought the bar fine covered the consent angle.

[Walter Travolta]

4 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

 

Happily Enough is unfortunately ill-informed but you are absolutely clueless ... the girl reported the rape and theft to Thai Police but they refused to register her rape complaint. This happened in Thailand, you'll be pleased to know. 

 

The Thai authorities have already portrayed her as a liar, despite not registering her complaint and receiving no statement from her directly. Indeed, they appear to want to ban her from the country for besmirching the reputation of Koh Tao island ... now that is what's really laughable. 

 

Another apologist for rape and criminality. Let's hope you can dance as well as your brother John, Walter, I'd hate to think of you as just an angry bar dweller with little to offer the world but bile and misogyny.

 

My apologies, I forgot about the girl reporting it, the reason I forgot is because she didnt report it in the place it happened and she was told to report it in Koh Tao instead of where she did.

So yes I accept my error there

 

However, the facts still remain that there is no proof of anything like rape has taken place, yet you accuse me of being an apologist of rape haha. Your 'matter of fact' way of writing doesnt mean you are correct. And the little paragraph at the end says more about you than it does me. 

 

At the moment there is only 2 people know if she was raped, she is one of them, you are NOT the other. As much as you call me the names you did, I could say the same about you being a #metoo nutcase!

 

It will come out one day that she is lying, and you will not be so cocky with your ill informed presumptions and guesses she was in fact raped. Maybe you are in for 50% of her cut

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, cyberfarang said:

No evidence, no names, no possible suspects, no nothing.

I would assume her 4 male room-mates would be first in line as possible suspects, especially the one at the beach with her.

But all the posters here seem to be looking for a Thai attacker.

I can't believe the number of posters hating on Thais.

 

Hate Thai police, hate Thai government, hate Thai bar owners, hate the Thai receptionist.

Guys, move somewhere else if you don't like the locals.

Edited September 11, 2018 by BritManToo

[Walter Travolta]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I would assume her 4 male room-mates would be first in line as possible suspects, especially the one at the beach with her.

But all the posters here seem to be looking for a Thai attacker.

I can't believe the number of posters hating on Thais.

Its a fair point that when Koh Tao is involved in such accusations that mud will obviously stick, but that doesnt mean that just because it is KT that a rape actually happened

 

Although going by some of the members comments on here, there is no need to investigate, they all have it sewn up already, bless them

 

Im certainly looking forward to the conclusion to this and the backtracking sleuths with no evidence whatsoever

[shillhater]

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I would assume her 4 male room-mates would be first in line as possible suspects, especially the one at the beach with her.

But all the posters here seem to be looking for a Thai attacker.

I can't believe the number of posters hating on Thais.

 

Hate Thai police, hate Thai government, hate Thai bar owners.

Guys, move somewhere else if you don't like the locals.

excuse me pal..but i have yet to read anyone say it was  Thai who raped her..i have not read any Thai hating..put your big wooden spoon away.

[duanebigsby]

4 minutes ago, Walter Travolta said:

Its a fair point that when Koh Tao is involved in such accusations that mud will obviously stick, but that doesnt mean that just because it is KT that a rape actually happened

 

Although going by some of the members comments on here, there is no need to investigate, they all have it sewn up already, bless them

 

Im certainly looking forward to the conclusion to this and the backtracking sleuths with no evidence whatsoever

The posters claiming the girl is lying are asking for the evidence.

The posters who think her story might be valid are asking for the evidence.

 

Both sides would like to see an investigation.

 

[mdmayes]

She does not have to go back to murder island if she is uncomfortable to do so. This is 2018, everything can be done electronically. If BIB wants to, they could send an officer to the UK to interview the lady in person. The thai police had their chance to interview the lady in Thailand but ignored her plea at that time. As per any forensic evidence, let the it be done in Briton so there is no accidental loss of important DNA.

She is a fighter and will not go quietly into the night. The Thai police / government were hoping this lady was a mouse and go hide away. But they now see they were dealing with a lion and are scrabbling to try and discredit. You go girl.

Edited September 11, 2018 by mdmayes

[Walter Travolta]

Just now, duanebigsby said:

The posters claiming the girl is lying are asking for the evidence.

The posters who think her story might be valid are asking for the evidence.

 

Both sides would like to see an investigation.

 

Of course, no argument from me there. An investigation is paramount. The problem with Thailand though is the deceit and corruption. So even if the claims by the girl are dismissed, there will be people who just refuse to accept she was not raped simply because it is KT. If this had happened in Mukdahan, Korat, CM, Phuket, there would not be as much suspicion. Personally I feel there are too many holes in the girls story and her lack of urgency to get back to Thailand and get this sorted speaks volumes. If she has the evidence, bring it to Thailand, open an investigation and bring an end to it one way or the other