realenglish1 Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 I currently us 3bb for streaming IPTV from the UK but it is not great I get a lot of buffering I would like to get some feedback on anyone streaming IPTV and what internet service provider without buffering problems. Tell me the package you are using and the provider. Any help is greatly appreciated
Crossy Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 Me, northern BKK, TOT Fibre, 200/80 package. Are you using a VPN? That could be your bottleneck. I'm streaming BBC iPlayer via Ivacy VPN, (almost) no buffering issues. EDIT TestMY.net is giving my 8Mbps to the London server via the VPN, more than enough for the BBC. "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
gkroo Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 I am in Bangkok (Nonthaburi) & using TOT fibre 50/25 and via Kodi/SPMC with virtually nil buffering problems,no VPN being used.
Pib Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 I'm on AIS Fibre 200/50 here in western Bangkok....here's what I just got at 6:45pm Thai tine on testmy.net and speedtest.net tests to London servers. Your results will vary.
WorriedNoodle Posted November 8, 2018 Posted November 8, 2018 Perhaps it the IPTV provider. I get no buffering on live streams or catchup using cheapest 30mbps Docsis or unlimited 10mbps 4G networks. No need to go for higher speed internet I find.
realenglish1 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Posted November 8, 2018 2 hours ago, WorriedNoodle said: Perhaps it the IPTV provider. I get no buffering on live streams or catchup using cheapest 30mbps Docsis or unlimited 10mbps 4G networks. No need to go for higher speed internet I find. Which Internet provider are you using
WorriedNoodle Posted November 8, 2018 Posted November 8, 2018 3 hours ago, realenglish1 said: Which Internet provider are you using I am using True Docsis and either DTAC or True 4G both in Bangkok and upcountry for the 4G.
Jeffrey346 Posted November 8, 2018 Posted November 8, 2018 19 hours ago, WorriedNoodle said: Perhaps it the IPTV provider. I get no buffering on live streams or catchup using cheapest 30mbps Docsis or unlimited 10mbps 4G networks. No need to go for higher speed internet I find. Could be the IPTV provider or perhaps the IPTV Box you are using.
nickmondo Posted November 9, 2018 Posted November 9, 2018 3BB are notorious for throttling streams from international servers. IAS do not do this and are by far the best option to watch international streams with no buffering.
nickmondo Posted November 9, 2018 Posted November 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Jeffrey346 said: Could be the IPTV provider or perhaps the IPTV Box you are using. not correct. the man uses 3BB and they are notorious for throttling bandwidth of signal from international servers
janclaes47 Posted November 9, 2018 Posted November 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, nickmondo said: not correct. the man uses 3BB and they are notorious for throttling bandwidth of signal from international servers 3BB doesn't throttle. TOT and CAT are the ones that throttle. OP also doesn't say what kind of package he is on, can as well be the 18/1.8 ADSL package. Many factors that can cause buffering, including bad wiring - using WIFI instead of wired connection - not rebooting your router frequently and many more, and last but not least using a poor IPTV service 1
Jeffrey346 Posted November 9, 2018 Posted November 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, nickmondo said: not correct. the man uses 3BB and they are notorious for throttling bandwidth of signal from international servers Not true.. The Gov limits the international bandwidth. I have 3BB and 3 different TV boxes. I get buffering on 2 daily but rarely get buffering on my Nvidia Shield. The box plays a big part.
tweedledee2 Posted November 9, 2018 Posted November 9, 2018 I have 3BB 100/30 Fiber and stream Netflix US, VUDU, US, UK and AUS TV, using my laptop to view on my TV. Even with the previous 30/10 VDSL, I have never had issues with buffering using a Proxy. As for the poster claiming 3BB throttles bandwidth, I believe that is false. Besides daily video streaming, I also game online 6 or more hours most nights connecting to Servers in the US and EU through Sony's PS Network. There are never any lag or connection issues. 1
skiller Posted November 9, 2018 Posted November 9, 2018 @@ Pib your result sounds very interesting. It seems AIS is giving the full speed overseas. I am living in Sattahip using TOT. The 95 Mbps is w/o VPN the other one is my own french OpenVPN server.
Scouse123 Posted November 9, 2018 Posted November 9, 2018 Guys, I bought this at $15 a month and it's their gold package but I still get buffering and freezing. Can anybody advise what is wrong? Advice from IPTV company is to clear cache but that doesn't help. Netflix and Iflix play as normal, so no issue there. https://www.iptvsubscription.net/ I operate through an Android box which is new. I use the 3B fibre optic and my speeds are:-
Pib Posted November 9, 2018 Posted November 9, 2018 You are testing to Bangkok server...but what is the location of the IPTV servers? They could very well be on the other side of the world versus being nearby like in Bangkok or Singapore. 1
tweedledee2 Posted November 9, 2018 Posted November 9, 2018 35 minutes ago, Scouse123 said: Guys, I bought this at $15 a month and it's their gold package but I still get buffering and freezing. Can anybody advise what is wrong? Advice from IPTV company is to clear cache but that doesn't help. Netflix and Iflix play as normal, so no issue there. https://www.iptvsubscription.net/ I operate through an Android box which is new. I use the 3B fibre optic and my speeds are:- This IPTV website cannot fix the video streaming issues you are having. They are just a go-between "subscription selling service". They have a no refund policy and do not offer any service guaratee. Anyone who reads the 13 items listed regarding their Shop Policy and still subscribes is foolish. One of the first things I do on a new website before buying or downloading anything is to scroll to the bottom the page and read their policy and company info. They advertise having over 10,000 customer accounts but how many are actually happy customers? That being said I can stream all the video content I desire, directly from the providers websites for free. This includes VUDU, US, UK and AUS TV. I don't need a subsription service, Android Box or TV Stick, just 3BB, my laptop and a Proxy that costs less than 35 baht a month. 1
Jeffrey346 Posted November 9, 2018 Posted November 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Scouse123 said: Guys, I bought this at $15 a month and it's their gold package but I still get buffering and freezing. Can anybody advise what is wrong? Advice from IPTV company is to clear cache but that doesn't help. Netflix and Iflix play as normal, so no issue there. https://www.iptvsubscription.net/ I operate through an Android box which is new. I use the 3B fibre optic and my speeds are:- Your local speed seems ok. You may want to check your international speed. Are you using a VPN? Which Android Box are you using and what is the specs? 1
Scouse123 Posted November 9, 2018 Posted November 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Jeffrey346 said: Your local speed seems ok. You may want to check your international speed. Are you using a VPN? Which Android Box are you using and what is the specs? Hi Jeffrey246, I haven't been using a VPN but I could if it would help? I don't know how to check international speed. My Andriod box is M9C Pro 4K, that is what it says on the box exterior.
Pib Posted November 9, 2018 Posted November 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, Scouse123 said: Hi Jeffrey246, I haven't been using a VPN but I could if it would help? I don't know how to check international speed. My Andriod box is M9C Pro 4K, that is what it says on the box exterior. Just change the server location in Speedtest.net since that is the speed tester you are using. It always defaults to your local location....but you can pick/change to any speedtest.net server in the world.
janclaes47 Posted November 9, 2018 Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Scouse123 said: Hi Jeffrey246, I haven't been using a VPN but I could if it would help? I don't know how to check international speed. My Andriod box is M9C Pro 4K, that is what it says on the box exterior. Going from your local speed I assume your international speed will be fine. Your box is fine, for IPTV you don't need a high spec box. MAG boxes are only 528Mb or 1 Gb RAM and they are the number one for IPTV. Don't let anyone fool you into the idea that a Shield will give you better streams. Most important for live tv is that you are connected by LAN to the router, because WIFI regardless of how good your signal is will always give you a lower speed and will be unstable. To many factors in a household that interfere with a wireless signal, including your tv. With live tv you can't build a buffer as with movies, so if your wifi signal is too slow for a second you will experience buffer. Another thing to avoid is using a wireless pc mouse in an Android box, because many of them will interfere with video or audio drivers. I install these kind of boxes, and been there got the t-shirt a lot of times. Important is also to reboot your router frequently, at least once a week, and more often if you also use WIFI on the router. If all that is fine, you should also know, not every IPTV service is equal. I don't know which one you are using, since the link are resellers for many different services, but there are many mediocre services around. Edit : I just notice that your box is only 1GB RAM which is on the low side for an Android box, depending on which app you use to stream the IPTV. Some apps use a lot of memory. You can install an app that shows how much memory a certain app uses https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xsoftstudio.cpu.widget 1
Scouse123 Posted November 9, 2018 Posted November 9, 2018 janclaes47, I would just like to say thank you very much indeed for explaining clearly to me where I have been getting it wrong and what I need to do to put it right. So I need to get a LAN cable running from my router to my Android box, is that correct? This is the IPTV provider I have been using. https://www.iptvsubscription.net/ Thanks once again.
Jeffrey346 Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Scouse123 said: janclaes47, I would just like to say thank you very much indeed for explaining clearly to me where I have been getting it wrong and what I need to do to put it right. So I need to get a LAN cable running from my router to my Android box, is that correct? This is the IPTV provider I have been using. https://www.iptvsubscription.net/ Thanks once again. 1Gb of RAM is an issue. Using a LAN cable should improve your streaming experience. In the future, if you want the best possible streaming experience, I suggest the Nvidia Shield [3Gb RAM] Skystream 2 [3Gb RAM] or the just released Skystream 3 [4Gb RAM]. These are all high end boxes and IMO the Skystream 3 is the best choice at $99. This link should answer most of your questions. https://androidpcreview.com/best-android-tv-box/ 1
janclaes47 Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 9 hours ago, Scouse123 said: janclaes47, I would just like to say thank you very much indeed for explaining clearly to me where I have been getting it wrong and what I need to do to put it right. So I need to get a LAN cable running from my router to my Android box, is that correct? This is the IPTV provider I have been using. https://www.iptvsubscription.net/ Thanks once again. Yes a LAN cable will improve the internet connection. If LAN is an issue due to distance, powerline adapters may be a solution. The link you provide is a reseller that offers at least 11 different services, and the only one in there that is know to be more or less reliable is Nitro, though they have also major issues lately. Your 1Gb RAM "may" be an issue, depending on which app you use to stream, but IPTV doesn't need large memory and a high spec box is definitely not needed. For Kodi 1Gb RAM is not enough, for most IPTV apps it is sufficient. As said a Shield is a waste of money, unless you like gaming as well. I suggest you install the app from Playstore I linked, it cost a whole 10 Baht' and it enables you to monitor your RAM usage during watching the IPTV. 1
WorriedNoodle Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 19 hours ago, tweedledee2 said: That being said I can stream all the video content I desire, directly from the providers websites for free. This includes VUDU, US, UK and AUS TV. I don't need a subsription service, Android Box or TV Stick, just 3BB, my laptop and a Proxy that costs less than 35 baht a month. That's just the free to air stuff from those countries isn't it? No prime time sports channels like Sky, BT, EPL etc.
tweedledee2 Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 2 hours ago, WorriedNoodle said: That's just the free to air stuff from those countries isn't it? No prime time sports channels like Sky, BT, EPL etc. Sky Go, BT Sports, BBC Sports, Euro Sports Player and others can also be accessed if they are free to view or you are a paid subscriber, but none of them are on my desire to view list.
Scouse123 Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 6 hours ago, Jeffrey346 said: 1Gb of RAM is an issue. Using a LAN cable should improve your streaming experience. In the future, if you want the best possible streaming experience, I suggest the Nvidia Shield [3Gb RAM] Skystream 2 [3Gb RAM] or the just released Skystream 3 [4Gb RAM]. These are all high end boxes and IMO the Skystream 3 is the best choice at $99. This link should answer most of your questions. https://androidpcreview.com/best-android-tv-box/ Much appreciated and thanks for taking time out to help me.
janclaes47 Posted November 11, 2018 Posted November 11, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 2:11 PM, Scouse123 said: Just wanted to follow up on this speed test. 3BB doesn't have 70Mb packages, so I assume your package is 100/30, and as so your test results should be at least that. Unless this speed test was done over the WIFI, which will explain the lower result, any speed test to local server over LAN significantly lower than 100 Mbps will indicate a problem with the internet feed or router. 16ms is also a very high ping for 3BB fibre, which again can be explained if over WIFI, but on LAN your ping should be less than 5ms if within 200 km from Bangkok.
tweedledee2 Posted November 11, 2018 Posted November 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, janclaes47 said: Just wanted to follow up on this speed test. 3BB doesn't have 70Mb packages, so I assume your package is 100/30, and as so your test results should be at least that. Unless this speed test was done over the WIFI, which will explain the lower result, any speed test to local server over LAN significantly lower than 100 Mbps will indicate a problem with the internet feed or router. 16ms is also a very high ping for 3BB fibre, which again can be explained if over WIFI, but on LAN your ping should be less than 5ms if within 200 km from Bangkok. My 3BB 100/30 fiber Speedtest results today from my rural location about 12 miles NE of Surin to 3BB in Bangkok are 127.04 down and 40.9 up with a 9 ms ping over my wireless connection. Previous test results have always been at least a 20% higher rate than 3BB advertises.
janclaes47 Posted November 11, 2018 Posted November 11, 2018 22 minutes ago, tweedledee2 said: My 3BB 100/30 fiber Speedtest results today from my rural location about 12 miles NE of Surin to 3BB in Bangkok are 127.04 down and 40.9 up with a 9 ms ping over my wireless connection. Previous test results have always been at least a 20% higher rate than 3BB advertises. Do you want to claim that wireless is actually better than wired, or that I'm lying when I say that a lower test result may be caused by connecting wireless? https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/wi-fi-vs-ethernet-how-much-faster-wired-connection-paul-zdzitowiecki Wi-Fi vs Ethernet: Interference and reliability An Ethernet connection experiences less interference and is more reliable than Wi-Fi. Things like your home’s layout, your modem, your neighbours’ networks, and the number of connected devices will interfere with wireless connections. This can result in a number of issues, including: Sometimes your devices will lose signal completely. Higher latency. Interference can increase latency. Slow speeds. Interference can also slow down speeds drastically. Wi-Fi vs Ethernet: Speed One advantage of an Ethernet connection, however, is consistency. Ethernet connections tend to deliver a constant speed, whereas Wi-Fi speeds jump around throughout the day. https://www.versatek.com/blog/2018-update-ethernet-cabling-still-better-wifi/ 2. Signal Quality It’s no mystery that interference can make it hard to get and stay on a wireless network. As more devices come online due to the exploding Internet of Things (IoT), this may even become more of a challenge in the near future. Not so with Ethernet. Cable connections tend to be more robust. If you have the right cabling solution—Cat06 or higher—then you have all the insulation you’ll need to prevent crosstalk from interfering with your signal.
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