Lawyer seeks action against hospital for ‘lack of morality’ after woman dies following acid attack

[snoop1130]

Lawyer seeks action against hospital for ‘lack of morality’ after woman dies following acid attack

By The Nation

 

 

Outspoken lawyer Atchariya Ruangratanapong on Monday brought relatives of a 38-year-old woman - who on Friday had succumbed to injuries sustained from her jealous husband splashing acid on to her face - to file a petition with the Public Health Ministry to investigate Praram 2 Hospital and its doctors for an alleged “lack of morality”.

 

They plan to sue the Bangkok hospital for Bt10-million compensation, and the lawyer said he would also press for the private hospital to be closed, if possible.

 

Atchariya cited Cholladda Tharawan’s relatives as claiming that she had not received timely treatment at the hospital that would have saved her life, as the staff had reportedly told Chorladda and her accompanying 12-year-old daughter at 5am on November 9 to get treatment at another hospital. 

 

Praram 2 Hospital had allegedly claimed the woman’s symptoms at the time were non-critical and that she had expressed a wish to get treatment at Bang Mod Hospital, with which she was subscribed for “gold card” medical care under the universal healthcare scheme.

 

Atchariya said the family had petitioned the director-general of the Public Health Ministry’s Health Service Support Department (HSSD), the president of the Medical Council of Thailand and the president of the Thailand Nursing and Midwifery Council to punish related parties, including Praram 2 Hospital executives, as well as doctors and nurses on duty at the time, as they had allegedly “lacked the morality” to assess the patient’s condition and had merely looked at her healthcare scheme subscription. 

 

According to the ministry’s regulation, the hospital could treat any emergency patients, the lawyer said, adding that it was also unacceptable for it to have allegedly allowed a nurse to conduct a diagnosis. 

 

As he presented the petition to HSSD deputy chief Dr Prapas Jittasirinuwat, the lawyer urged the department to take action against the hospital within three days.

 

Prapas, offering condolences to the family, said department officials would later on Monday check whether the hospital had adhered to the Health Facility Act in its actions on Friday morning.

 

If the hospital were deemed to have failed to help the patient to its full capacity, it could be held accountable for a violation of the Act, an offence punishable with a maximum two-year imprisonment and a maximum Bt40,000 fine, he explained.

 

Chorladda’s mother, Thong-art Tharawan, said she had assigned Atchariya to act on the family’s behalf as they wanted to the Public Health Ministry to take action against Praram 2 Hospital for denying treatment for her daughter. 

 

She also said the hospital had not yet contacted the family to provide any aid. 

 

Thong-art also said she would not forgive her acid-splashing son-in-law as his action was “too cruel”.

 

Meanwhile, Chorladda’s husband, 50-year-old Lop Buri native Kamtan Singhanart, was arrested on Sunday night under a murder warrant at his friend’s house in Nakhon Sawan’s Banphot Phisai district. 

 

Metropolitan Police Bureau chief Pol Lt-General Sutthipong Wongpin was scheduled to join the interrogation of Kamtan at Tha Kham police station, before the accused is taken to perform a crime re-enactment.

 

Police will later hold a press conference on the case against Kamtan.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30358386

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-11-12

[khwaibah]

All relevant individuals involved should have their credentials removed, found guilty of 2nd degree murder, sent to prison and the hospital closed. AND CAP the husband.

[thedemon]

The only way they will learn from this is if it costs the hospital shareholders a serious amount of money. 10M is nowhere near enough.

[webfact]

Family of woman who died seek action against hospital for ‘lack of morality’

By The Nation

 

Relatives of a 38-year-old woman, who succumbed to her injuries after her husband splashed acid on her on Friday, talk to reporters yesterday.

 

OUTSPOKEN lawyer Atchariya Ruangratanapong yesterday brought relatives of a 38-year-old woman – who on November 9 had succumbed to injuries sustained from her jealous husband splashing acid on to her face – to file a petition with the Public Health Ministry to investigate Praram 2 Hospital and its doctors for an alleged “lack of morality”.

 

 

They plan to sue the Bangkok hospital for Bt10-million compensation, and the lawyer said he would also press for the private hospital to be closed, if possible.

 

Atchariya cited Cholladda Tharawan’s relatives as claiming that she had not received timely treatment at the hospital that would have saved her life, as the staff had reportedly told Chorladda and her accompanying 12-year-old daughter at 5am on November 9 to get treatment at another hospital. 

 

Praram 2 Hospital had allegedly claimed the woman’s symptoms at the time were non-critical and that she had expressed a wish to get treatment at Bang Mod Hospital, with which she was subscribed for “gold card” medical care under the universal healthcare scheme. “We have already done our best,” the hospital’s director Wanlapa Chaimanowong said yesterday. 

 

 

Dr Phira Kananuwat, a surgeon at the hospital, said there were CCTV recordings related to the case that authorities could examine. 

 

“Hospital staff did not demand her to register for a patient’s card first. They said she could seek treatments right away,” Phira said.

 

Atchariya said the family had petitioned the director-general of the Public Health Ministry’s Health Service Support Department (HSSD), the president of the Medical Council of Thailand and the president of the Thailand Nursing and Midwifery Council to punish related parties, including Praram 2 Hospital executives, as well as doctors and nurses on duty at the time, as they allegedly “lacked the morality” to assess the patient’s condition and merely looked at her healthcare scheme subscription. 

 

According to the ministry’s regulation, the hospital could treat any emergency patients, the lawyer said, adding that it was also unacceptable for it to have allegedly allowed a nurse to conduct a diagnosis. As he presented the petition to HSSD deputy chief Dr Prapas Jittasirinuwat, the lawyer urged the department to take action against the hospital within three days.

 

Prapas, offering condolences to the family, said department officials would later yesterday check whether the hospital had adhered to the Health Facility Act in its actions. 

 

If the hospital were deemed to have failed to help the patient to its full capacity, it could be held accountable for a violation of the Act, an offence punishable with a maximum two-year imprisonment and a maximum Bt40,000 fine, he explained.

 

Dr Akom Pradittasuwan, who heads the Bureau of Sanatorium and Healing Arts, said it would take about one week to investigate the complaint against Praram 2 Hospital. “If it is found guilty, we will forward the case to the Medical Council too,” he said. Chorladda’s mother, Thong-art Tharawan, said she had assigned Atchariya to act on the family’s behalf as they wanted the Public Health Ministry to take action against Praram 2 Hospital for denying treatment for her daughter.

 

She also said the hospital had not yet contacted the family to provide any aid. 

 

 

Thong-art also said she would not forgive her acid-splashing son-in-law as his action was “too cruel”.

 

Meanwhile, Chorladda’s husband, 50-year-old Lop Buri native Kamtan Singhanart, was arrested on Sunday night at his friend’s house in Nakhon Sawan’s Banphot Phisai district.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30358411

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-11-13

[Rhys]

Profit...based care...

[George Bowman]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Atchariya cited Cholladda Tharawan’s relatives as claiming that she had not received timely treatment at the hospital that would have saved her life,

 

Many years ago the noodle lady at school had to shut down her shop and rush home somewhere upcountry. Here is why.

 

Her young teenage daughter lived with grandma in order to attend school. One day this young lady was driving a motorcycle along with two of her friends and were heading to school when an oncoming car swerved into their lane and struck the motorcycle. All three girls were injured and eventually ended up in the local hospital. 

 

The daughter of the noodle lady had a serious leg injury and needed immediate attention. However, her family was unable to show how payment was to be made as this was before Thailand had universal health care.  The hospitals wanted their money. The girl's leg was amputated later that same day.

 

The car that hit these girls was driven by a young man whose father was a policeman. No charges were ever filed against the driver. But his family did sue the owner of the motorcycle for damages to the car...

Edited November 12, 2018 by missoura

[YetAnother]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

If the hospital were deemed to have failed to help the patient to its full capacity, it could be held accountable for a violation of the Act, an offence punishable with a maximum two-year imprisonment and a maximum Bt40,000 fine, he explained.

the whole case is an ugly affair; who exactly would be imprisoned and 40,000 is not even noticeable to a hospital; another example of laws that need updating

[bristolgeoff]

it is not just farangs who hit a  thai who is drunk driving a scooter up the wrong way of the road.the hospital is at fault even if the woman wanted and demanded maybe to be sent to another hospital under her gold care card.the family are out in force and wanting cash and saying you caused this.this is thailand

[The Deerhunter]

12 hours ago, thedemon said:

The only way they will learn from this is if it costs the hospital shareholders a serious amount of money. 10M is nowhere near enough.

And the possible/likely imposition of only the 40,000THB or even less than this maximum fine even less so.

[NextStationBangkok]

Before treatment, they generally check for what kind of insurance you have.

[AlQaholic]

There are some information missing in this story. That information, I think, will turn out to be key points as to why the woman was not admitted into this hospital.

[bipper]

15 minutes ago, AlQaholic said:

There are some information missing in this story. That information, I think, will turn out to be key points as to why the woman was not admitted into this hospital.

Was registered at another hospital purely financial and red tape. According to Thai news anyway.

[bipper]

33 minutes ago, NextStationBangkok said:

Before treatment, they generally check for what kind of insurance you have.

Unethical in any humane society. There should be an ethics law before they are allowed to operate as a hospital. Must TAKE CARE!

[wealthychef]

13 hours ago, thedemon said:

The only way they will learn from this is if it costs the hospital shareholders a serious amount of money. 10M is nowhere near enough.

You cannot teach a lesson to a corporation.  Capitalism reliably chases profits over the well being of society.  It also suppresses democracy. 

[connda]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Lawyer seeks action against hospital for ‘lack of morality’ after woman dies following acid attack

This is a much larger social issue than the (in)actions of one single Thai private hospital. 

[monspencer]

The Nation's report says this.

 

"If the hospital were deemed to have failed to help the patient to its full capacity, it could be held accountable for a violation of the Act, an offence punishable with a maximum two-year imprisonment"

 

Where is there a prison large enough to hold a hospital, and if there is one, how will the authorities get it there?

[connda]

1 hour ago, bipper said:

Unethical in any humane society. There should be an ethics law before they are allowed to operate as a hospital. Must TAKE CARE!

Doctor's take the Hippocratic Oath:  The welfare of the patient before all else.
Hospitals take the Hypocritic Oath:  The welfare of the hospital before all else - profits over life.

[thaiguzzi]

3 hours ago, missoura said:

 

Many years ago the noodle lady at school had to shut down her shop and rush home somewhere upcountry. Here is why.

 

Her young teenage daughter lived with grandma in order to attend school. One day this young lady was driving a motorcycle along with two of her friends and were heading to school when an oncoming car swerved into their lane and struck the motorcycle. All three girls were injured and eventually ended up in the local hospital. 

 

The daughter of the noodle lady had a serious leg injury and needed immediate attention. However, her family was unable to show how payment was to be made as this was before Thailand had universal health care.  The hospitals wanted their money. The girl's leg was amputated later that same day.

 

The car that hit these girls was driven by a young man whose father was a policeman. No charges were ever filed against the driver. But his family did sue the owner of the motorcycle for damages to the car...

Yeah, one of many terrible, sad stories of the downtrodden over here and in SE Asia in general.

An eye for an eye if justice is not forthcoming.

Me, as a Thai relative, i would have kidnapped the driver, and the father, and cut their legs off, before topping them.

[Gerd Schuessler]

5 hours ago, Rhys said:

Profit...based care...

One has the impression that doctors are service providers in the first instance, but have no real interest in their patients. They initially assess how much they will get out of you, and they treat you accordingly ...

[connda]

7 minutes ago, monspencer said:

The Nation's report says this.

 

"If the hospital were deemed to have failed to help the patient to its full capacity, it could be held accountable for a violation of the Act, an offence punishable with a maximum two-year imprisonment"

 

Where is there a prison large enough to hold a hospital, and if there is one, how will the authorities get it there?

It's the same prison now holding all of the executives from banks like HSBC that have been convicted of being complicit in money laundering and other fraudulent activities. 
"Psst - there are no executives who have been jailed.  HSBC just paid a 1.9 Billion dollar fine and nobody goes to jail.  That's how corporate fraud works.  Executive are never found responsible for criminality which is why it continues unabated.  Fines are simply the price of conducting criminal activities from within a corporate structure.  Welcome to reality!" 
???? Nevermind

[hotchilli]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

Atchariya cited Cholladda Tharawan’s relatives as claiming that she had not received timely treatment at the hospital that would have saved her life, as the staff had reportedly told Chorladda and her accompanying 12-year-old daughter at 5am on November 9 to get treatment at another hospital. 

 

Praram 2 Hospital had allegedly claimed the woman’s symptoms at the time were non-critical and that she had expressed a wish to get treatment at Bang Mod Hospital, with which she was subscribed for “gold card” medical care under the universal healthcare scheme. “We have already done our best,” the hospital’s director Wanlapa Chaimanowong said yesterday. 

Does anyone not spot the contradiction in the two paragraphs above?

The patient expressed a wish to be taken to a hospital where she held a medical insurance...

she was granted the wish & died on the way... obviously a wrong choice but it was her choice !!!

After her untimely death an outspoken lawyer is trying to use his influence and media to gain notoriety & compensation for the family based on a sympathy vote!!!!

If you check-out of a hospital refusing their treatment in favour of your own demands then you cannot expect the hospital to be held accountable for the outcome of the patient who is no longer on their premises or under their care !!!

Also a hospital cannot hold a patient and treat them against their will !!

Edited November 13, 2018 by metisdead
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[Time Traveller]

It's funny when Lawyers accuse others of "Lack of Morality".

Most likely the Hospital didn't break any laws. 

[Lucky mike]

And as an act of benevolence he will not seek any fees ?

[colinneil]

Loud mouth lawyer dont give a toss about the poor woman or her family, he just jumped up on the band wagon to get publicity and a very BIG payout for himself, bloody typical money grabbing lawyer.

[Srikcir]

42 minutes ago, Time Traveller said:

It's funny when Lawyers accuse others of "Lack of Morality".

Most likely the Hospital didn't break any laws. 

Likely so as I'd otherwise expect suing for malpractice and/or negligence.

So no lawsuit that would be medically-based but undefined morally-based. Unless there's standards in Thai laws that define "morality," such a lawsuit would be purely capricious and arbitrary. Perhaps useful for negotiating a private settlement but has no place in a court of law.

Why not sue for malpractice and/or negligence?

It may be that then the lawsuit would be filed against nurses/doctors/attendants personally without a corporate liability shield. But it's the corporation that holds the greater wealth. 

In essence the lawsuit against the hospital is a PR tactic.

[shy coconut]

7 hours ago, Rhys said:

Profit...based care...

The hospital or the lawyer?

It seems that the key witness will be the12 year old girl, who

is likely to be traumatized from the whole event. Possibly

including the assault by her father.

A sad story

[NextStationBangkok]

5 hours ago, bipper said:

Unethical in any humane society. There should be an ethics law before they are allowed to operate as a hospital. Must TAKE CARE!

That's how it works here... or you are dead like the poor lady.

[Media1]

The husband needs a crew l will hand pick on a week holiday to Thailand 

He needs the worst that can be inflicted

[Media1]

Rubbish hospital a disgrace should be sued and shamed. 

[Media1]

11 hours ago, webfact said:

Family of woman who died seek action against hospital for ‘lack of morality’

By The Nation

 

Relatives of a 38-year-old woman, who succumbed to her injuries after her husband splashed acid on her on Friday, talk to reporters yesterday.

 

OUTSPOKEN lawyer Atchariya Ruangratanapong yesterday brought relatives of a 38-year-old woman – who on November 9 had succumbed to injuries sustained from her jealous husband splashing acid on to her face – to file a petition with the Public Health Ministry to investigate Praram 2 Hospital and its doctors for an alleged “lack of morality”.

 

 

They plan to sue the Bangkok hospital for Bt10-million compensation, and the lawyer said he would also press for the private hospital to be closed, if possible.

 

Atchariya cited Cholladda Tharawan’s relatives as claiming that she had not received timely treatment at the hospital that would have saved her life, as the staff had reportedly told Chorladda and her accompanying 12-year-old daughter at 5am on November 9 to get treatment at another hospital. 

 

Praram 2 Hospital had allegedly claimed the woman’s symptoms at the time were non-critical and that she had expressed a wish to get treatment at Bang Mod Hospital, with which she was subscribed for “gold card” medical care under the universal healthcare scheme. “We have already done our best,” the hospital’s director Wanlapa Chaimanowong said yesterday. 

 

 

Dr Phira Kananuwat, a surgeon at the hospital, said there were CCTV recordings related to the case that authorities could examine. 

 

“Hospital staff did not demand her to register for a patient’s card first. They said she could seek treatments right away,” Phira said.

 

Atchariya said the family had petitioned the director-general of the Public Health Ministry’s Health Service Support Department (HSSD), the president of the Medical Council of Thailand and the president of the Thailand Nursing and Midwifery Council to punish related parties, including Praram 2 Hospital executives, as well as doctors and nurses on duty at the time, as they allegedly “lacked the morality” to assess the patient’s condition and merely looked at her healthcare scheme subscription. 

 

According to the ministry’s regulation, the hospital could treat any emergency patients, the lawyer said, adding that it was also unacceptable for it to have allegedly allowed a nurse to conduct a diagnosis. As he presented the petition to HSSD deputy chief Dr Prapas Jittasirinuwat, the lawyer urged the department to take action against the hospital within three days.

 

Prapas, offering condolences to the family, said department officials would later yesterday check whether the hospital had adhered to the Health Facility Act in its actions. 

 

If the hospital were deemed to have failed to help the patient to its full capacity, it could be held accountable for a violation of the Act, an offence punishable with a maximum two-year imprisonment and a maximum Bt40,000 fine, he explained.

 

Dr Akom Pradittasuwan, who heads the Bureau of Sanatorium and Healing Arts, said it would take about one week to investigate the complaint against Praram 2 Hospital. “If it is found guilty, we will forward the case to the Medical Council too,” he said. Chorladda’s mother, Thong-art Tharawan, said she had assigned Atchariya to act on the family’s behalf as they wanted the Public Health Ministry to take action against Praram 2 Hospital for denying treatment for her daughter.

 

She also said the hospital had not yet contacted the family to provide any aid. 

 

 

Thong-art also said she would not forgive her acid-splashing son-in-law as his action was “too cruel”.

 

Meanwhile, Chorladda’s husband, 50-year-old Lop Buri native Kamtan Singhanart, was arrested on Sunday night at his friend’s house in Nakhon Sawan’s Banphot Phisai district.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30358411

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-11-13

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