Trump slams Mueller, mocks critics in fiery two-hour speech

[lannarebirth]

7 minutes ago, quandow said:

The real point is he isn't doing ANY of that. He's poisoning the climate, polarizing the country, and anyone with an ounce of critical thinking can see this.

 

Trump didn't polarize the country. The country is polarized, ergo Trump. Trump merely took advantage of an existing situation. He can absolutely be blamed for fanning the flames, but he didn't start the fire.

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL, I know of no Dems in the House that care about the country. All I see are Trump haters that want to get back into power no matter what.

If they cared about the country, IMO they'd be concentrating on passing good legislation and not Trump Trump Trump all the time.

Far as I can tell, there hasn't been a competent president since Kennedy, so competence is hardly a requirement for POTUS. Been some that had disrespect for the law too.

Now that the Democrats have a majority in the House they are showing they care about the country by investigating an obvious conman and possible Russian puppet, while crafting legislation regarding gun control, net neutrality, reigning in an out of control President usurping Congress's constitutional duty to control government finances, and implementing ethical standards and financial transparency for future Presidents that the country badly needs.

[heybruce]

43 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He's got 2 conservative judges on the SCOTUS and dumped the TPP. That's pretty good going for a novice politician IMO.

The judges just show that Trump can be used by Mitch McConnell. 

 

Dumping the TPP, pulling out of the Paris Climate Accord, abandoning the Iran Nuclear Deal, and other acts that show the world that the US can not be trusted, and demonstrates that Trump is the great deal breaker, not a deal maker.

 

Refusing to confront Putin with the obvious fact of Russian interference in the election, refusing to confront Saudi Arabia with MSB's obvious involvement in Khashoggi's murder, and taking Kim Jong Un "at his word" on the death by torture of Warmbier, tells the whole world that the US has a wimp of a President that won't confront autocrats and won't defend America's values.

 

But for the easily amused he is as entertaining as a WWF match.   I suspect there is a lot of overlap between Trump and people who think the WWF has real wrestling.

[zydeco]

53 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He's got 2 conservative judges on the SCOTUS and dumped the TPP. That's pretty good going for a novice politician IMO.

I used to oppose the TPP, too. But I now think I was mistaken to do so. There needs to be a united front against China. Instead, China may walk into the TPP and take it over itself. The provisions of the TPP would have moved auto parts manufacturing and some assembly to Mexico. Frankly, I'd rather have that than see it all in SE Asia. Better to invest in Mexico and its stability, which is right on the US doorstep, than in China's tributaries in Asia.

[Jingthing]

Our new normal.

God help us.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-unhinged-cpac-speech-should-concern-us-all/2019/03/04/96395a9e-3ecc-11e9-922c-64d6b7840b82_story.html

 

 

 

Trump’s unhinged CPAC speech should concern us all

 

The president of the United States gave a rambling and incoherent two-hour speech in which he raved like a lunatic and told crazy, self-serving lies from start to finish. If that no longer qualifies as alarming, we’re in serious trouble.

 

 

 

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[quandow]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He's got 2 conservative judges on the SCOTUS and dumped the TPP. That's pretty good going for a novice politician IMO.

The old adage of a broken clock being right twice a day. And, yes, at the beginning of his presidency I was hoping he'd have a somewhat decent run, and begging out of TPP was a good start. Then Trump hit the fan.

Edited March 5, 2019 by quandow
Proper tense

[quandow]

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Trump’s unhinged CPAC speech should concern us all.

The president of the United States gave a rambling and incoherent two-hour speech in which he raved like a lunatic and told crazy, self-serving lies from start to finish. If that no longer qualifies as alarming, we’re in serious trouble.

 

But what's even MORE frightening is his brainwashed sycophants start frothing at the mouth believing and approving this abhorrent new low.

[stud858]

4 hours ago, heybruce said:

In other words, Trump's obvious incompetence. self-serving conflicts of interest and disrespect for law doesn't bother you, you just enjoy knowing that rational people who care about the country are p.o.'d.

 

Now that's TDS!

Nah. For me, it's more about respecting the result of a democratic election.

For those against Trump, show you can do better and win the next election. It sucks that there is a long waiting time between president changes, but having an election every year like Australia does is disrupting from getting things done.

Maybe there will be someone to win the vote away from Trump and actually do a better job for the majority of citizens. 

I'm thinking Trump will keep winning but only hope it stays peaceful.

 

 

 

[xylophone]

16 minutes ago, quandow said:

But what's even MORE frightening is his brainwashed sycophants start frothing at the mouth believing and approving this abhorrent new low.

The following statement by Trump says as much about the mentality of his supporters as it does him.............

 

“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters,” he said.

 

Now you know the type of people who support him, and they post here!! 

[CMNightRider]

On 3/3/2019 at 9:28 AM, mtls2005 said:

 

trump is the poster boy for the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

 

In the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people of low ability have illusory superiority and mistakenly assess their cognitive ability as greater than it is. The cognitive bias of illusory superiority comes from the inability of low-ability people to recognize their lack of ability. Without the self-awareness of metacognition, low-ability people cannot objectively evaluate their competence or incompetence.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

 

 

 

"Dunning–Kruger effect"-just described over half the Democratic party members presently warming seats in Congress and the Senate.

[mikebike]

1 minute ago, CMNightRider said:

"Dunning–Kruger effect"-just described over half the Democratic party members presently warming seats in Congress and the Senate.

So we've lowered ourselves to "I know you are but what am I" now, have we?

[mikebike]

1 minute ago, CMNightRider said:

"Dunning–Kruger effect"-just described over half the Democratic party members presently warming seats in Congress and the Senate.

So we've lowered ourselves to "I know you are but what am I" now, have we?

[CMNightRider]

6 minutes ago, mikebike said:

So we've lowered ourselves to "I know you are but what am I" now, have we?

Mike, when you are able to write a coherent response or statement please get back with me.  If not, please direct your messages else where.

[wayned]

39 minutes ago, xylophone said:

The following statement by Trump says as much about the mentality of his supporters as it does him.............

 

“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters,” he said.

 

Now you know the type of people who support him, and they post here!! 

If he thought he would get more votes he would shoot himself, throw the gun in the sewer and blame Cohen!

[roobaa01]

On 3/3/2019 at 9:22 AM, simple1 said:

trump just confirming he has lost the plot - no new ideas, repeats BS and repeats again and again = Zzzzzzzz

the presidential speech was well conducted and timed as thereafter voters had a clear message for dems keep your solicialism of our programms, nbc poll revealed 50 % of us citizens favor capitalism vs 19 % in favor of socialism. yeah socialism was, is, will always be for losers.

 

wbr

roobaa01

[xylophone]

18 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

the presidential speech was well conducted and timed as thereafter voters had a clear message for dems keep your solicialism of our programms, nbc poll revealed 50 % of us citizens favor capitalism vs 19 % in favor of socialism. yeah socialism was, is, will always be for losers.

 

wbr

roobaa01

Trumps use (and yours) of the word "socialism" is a ruse to garner favour with his supporters and those who don't really understand it............and the last line is it in a nutshell.

 

And as for tax hikes on the wealthy, well after Trumps tax cuts lined his and their pockets, not surprising is it.

 

President Donald Trump warned about socialism during his State of the Union address on Tuesday night.

 

More Democrats have called for Medicare for all and tax hikes on the wealthy, among other liberal policies, as the party took back a House majority last month.

 

While his opponents have not backed socialism, Trump appears set to use the ideology as an attack as he faces a difficult re-election bid in 2020.

 

[Jingthing]

Nah. For me, it's more about respecting the result of a democratic election.
For those against Trump, show you can do better and win the next election. It sucks that there is a long waiting time between president changes, but having an election every year like Australia does is disrupting from getting things done.
Maybe there will be someone to win the vote away from Trump and actually do a better job for the majority of citizens. 
I'm thinking Trump will keep winning but only hope it stays peaceful.
 
 
 

It was not a legit election. We know that now. He obtained it by criminal activities.

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[mtls2005]

1 hour ago, CMNightRider said:

"Dunning–Kruger effect"-just described over half the Democratic party members presently warming seats in Congress and the Senate.

 

I think it's safe to say that this effect impacts everyone, even geniuses, and polymaths.

 

Being able to recognize one's limitations, and being comfortable seeking knowledge and expertise, from well, experts, is how many might mitigate the effects?

 

Or if you're trump...

 

 

[stud858]

37 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It was not a legit election. We know that now. He obtained it by criminal activities.

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The talk of illigitimate election doesn't fit in with my reasoning. I haven't seen the evidence.

You get a chance to view speaches, tv advertisements, internet information. Make up your mind and get a vote.

Were people denied to physically lodge their vote?

I'm more thinking the argument is when you allow abso lootly everyone a chance to vote and silly people outnumber the rest, then a silly result can be obtained. That's democracy.

 

 

 

[mtls2005]

12 minutes ago, stud858 said:

Were people denied to physically lodge their vote?

 

My guess, probably not to the extent that it would meet your criteria, aka physical restraint, or kidnapping.

 

That said, 77,000 votes in three key states swung the electoral college. Voter suppression and social media played a role. The russians, facebook, Giles-Parscale, Cambridge-Analytica more than likely impacted the outcome. Were voting machines hacked? No. Were ballots manipulated (like in NC-9)? No.

 

Do I think trump intended to win? Heck no.

 

 

 

 

 

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, stud858 said:

Nah. For me, it's more about respecting the result of a democratic election.

For those against Trump, show you can do better and win the next election. It sucks that there is a long waiting time between president changes, but having an election every year like Australia does is disrupting from getting things done.

Maybe there will be someone to win the vote away from Trump and actually do a better job for the majority of citizens. 

I'm thinking Trump will keep winning but only hope it stays peaceful.

If you respect the results of a democratic election you must surely respect the result of the 2018 election that gave the Democrats the majority in the House of Representatives and allows them to conduct their constitutional responsibilities of executive oversight.

[simple1]

2 hours ago, roobaa01 said:

the presidential speech was well conducted and timed as thereafter voters had a clear message for dems keep your solicialism of our programms, nbc poll revealed 50 % of us citizens favor capitalism vs 19 % in favor of socialism. yeah socialism was, is, will always be for losers.

 

wbr

roobaa01

Said it before, I'll say it again. You're one of the voices of evil on this platform

[stud858]

6 minutes ago, heybruce said:

responsibilities of executive oversight.

Good .a very important part. Let the oversight happen. 

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, roobaa01 said:

the presidential speech was well conducted and timed as thereafter voters had a clear message for dems keep your solicialism of our programms, nbc poll revealed 50 % of us citizens favor capitalism vs 19 % in favor of socialism. yeah socialism was, is, will always be for losers.

 

wbr

roobaa01

If you ask people if they want their bodies full of bacteria the majority will say no.  If you explain that their bodies are already full of bacteria and the bacteria are essential to life, many will change their minds.

 

If you ask people if they want socialism the majority will say no.  If you explain that Social Security, Medicare, public roads, public education, etc. are socialist programs, many will change their minds.

 

Which of the socialist programs mentioned do you oppose?

[Berkshire]

1 hour ago, stud858 said:

The talk of illigitimate election doesn't fit in with my reasoning. I haven't seen the evidence.

You get a chance to view speaches, tv advertisements, internet information. Make up your mind and get a vote.

Were people denied to physically lodge their vote?

I'm more thinking the argument is when you allow abso lootly everyone a chance to vote and silly people outnumber the rest, then a silly result can be obtained. That's democracy.

There are just tons of evidence that the 2016 election was tainted.  Not just by Russians, but by fake news in general.  For example, that whole Seth Rich saga regarding the hacking of the DNC.  Some people (aka Trump voters) believed that crap. Now it's clear that it was all made-up. 

 

[On Monday, pro-Trump conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi retracted a nearly year-old column published on the website Infowars, run by another notorious conspiracy peddler, Alex Jones, that promoted the unfounded claim that Rich and his brother participated in the hack of the DNC and leaked documents to WikiLeaks.]

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pro-trump-conspiracy-peddler-jerome-151850295.html

 

 

 

[Berkshire]

3 hours ago, roobaa01 said:

the presidential speech was well conducted and timed as thereafter voters had a clear message for dems keep your solicialism of our programms, nbc poll revealed 50 % of us citizens favor capitalism vs 19 % in favor of socialism. yeah socialism was, is, will always be for losers.

 

wbr

roobaa01

I haven't seen that poll, but would highly question the results.  I mean, how many Americans can even correctly define capitalism and socialism?  It's clear that most on TVF cannot. 

[joecoolfrog]

7 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Sorry, after a 12 hr shift it's all the time I got, unlike those who make this their life's work.

As I said , you got zilch.

[metisdead]

A troll post containing unsubstantiated allegations at this time has been removed as well as a reply. 

[mtls2005]

4 hours ago, roobaa01 said:

the presidential speech was well conducted and timed as thereafter voters had a clear message for dems keep your solicialism of our programms

 

[JHolmesJr]

16 hours ago, quandow said:

You Trump supporters don't listen to the facts, or perhaps make up your own to fit your twisted interpretation of reality. NO Republican Senator or member of Congress disputes this check was written on 1 August 2019, months after Trump was in office, to pay hush money. THAT wasn't illegal but not reporting it WAS, and Trump knew about it.

 

When will enough be enough for Trump supporters?

 

 

 

duhhh...no one is disputing the date on the cheque because that is what's printed on it.

clients give their lawyers cheques all the time. Since do you have to report giving a lawyer a cheque for services rendered? I can see shifty Schiff subpoena-ing all the cheques signed by trump now and making each one sound like a bribe. Dems are clueless and floundering, as usual.