On 1/21/2020 at 3:44 PM, kenk24 said:

lots of stories.. a friend was out of Thailand when his GF called and asked for money because her phone was stolen and she needed a new phone... not realizing that he could see the number was the same as her old phone... 

Nothing unusual about that. You can get your same number issued to a new SIM card as long as you show ID. Your number is registered to you.

On 1/22/2020 at 8:34 AM, CartagenaWarlock said:

I pay generous amount to a 19-year old Poseidon model who I impregnated in one week Phuket tour. I pay her for heavenly pleasure of her moist crack and warm body. No, I do not pay her for love. As they say love cannot be bought and only a mother can love a person unconditionally. All other loves are conditional- does not matter if it is a salary or not, though she has professed her love for me during the passionate moment when I was inside her heavenly abode. Here is what I pay her. 40K cash, 30K credit card purchases, and unlimited maternity care in Bumrungrad hospital. I have also promised her a house and a car when the child will be born. Child's fetal DNA is already tested for paternal match. Is it large? Probably but chump change for me. 2K USD/month. I used to pay 6K USD/month to my European and American sugar babies.

More fool you

25 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

Say you live here on pension of 60,000 baht a month.  Your "girlfriend" works 7 days a week, 8-10 hours a day and makes 25,000 baht a month.  

Why do you feel giving some money is treating her as an "employee"?  She has to eat and pay rent and likely take care of a mother or son or daughter as well.  You on the other hand likely toke care of no-one but yourself. 

And you say "the money is wasted" by her?  Think you have that backwards. 555   Peace

If she is working on 25k a month why should she expect to be paid more by a boyfriend? how much older are you than your girlfriend? that will tell you if its genuine or not and that you will need to pay

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

How do you know if they like you if you pay them? the answer is you won't and it's likely without the money they would go elsewhere

 

precisely and in thailand where there are so many money grubbing gals i cherish my friend that comes to see me based upon simple mutual feelings.

1 hour ago, jimn said:

Nothing unusual about that. You can get your same number issued to a new SIM card as long as you show ID. Your number is registered to you.

except when called on it, she admitted the rouse... not that that was unusual either... 

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

I don't give money to girls even when the pleading starts, many reasons but usually the money is just wasted and i would have to end the friendship after a while. As I don't give any money it's good when we see each other. I'm glad others do give money though.

 

As for paying a girlfriend, they are then just employees and the more you pay the more they dislike you. How do you know if they like you if you pay them? the answer is you won't and it's likely without the money they would go elsewhere

1. Why would I want to be friends with a woman?

Can they keep up with me when I'm hiking or cycling? ...... no

Can they talk about subjects that interest me? (women, beer, computers, football, science) ..... no

Do I want to hear all about their friendship problems, or their past lovers? ...... no

 

2. Why would I care if a woman likes me?

Will her liking me affect her willingness to have sex with me? ..... no, a 'real relationship' usually involves much less sex than simply paying.

Will her liking me save me any money? ..... no, in actual fact she'll probably expect me to spend more, on dates, gifts, etc.

 

3. Why would I be bothered if they go elsewhere?

Is there any lack of slim, attractive single moms needing some extra cash in Thailand? ....... no

Have I ever found any essential difference between one lover and another? ..... no

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

If she is working on 25k a month why should she expect to be paid more by a boyfriend? how much older are you than your girlfriend? that will tell you if its genuine or not and that you will need to pay

Good point, on 25k/month that's more money than most Thai ladies earn, why would you give her any more?

If she can't live on that, she's hardly a keeper.

24 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

1. Why would I want to be friends with a woman?

Can they keep up with me when I'm hiking or cycling? ...... no

Can they talk about subjects that interest me? (women, beer, computers, football, science) ..... no

Do I want to hear all about their friendship problems, or their past lovers? ...... no

 

2. Why would I care if a woman likes me?

Will her liking me affect her willingness to have sex with me? ..... no, a 'real relationship' usually involves much less sex than simply paying.

Will her liking me save me any money? ..... no, in actual fact she'll probably expect me to spend more, on dates, gifts, etc.

 

3. Why would I be bothered if they go elsewhere?

Is there any lack of slim, attractive single moms needing some extra cash in Thailand? ....... no

Have I ever found any essential difference between one lover and another? ..... no

If you like each other for real it feels good, not something you can get from a man if you are heterosexual. I enjoy being with women along with men and I don't fancy paying for a girlfriend or friend. Pay for sex why not but if you care for someone that's different. Guys just need to "keep it real" paying a girlfriend and thinking that she genuinely likes you is gullible. It's funny when a guy parades his new girlfriend around, it's very similar to buying or leasing a new car

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

Guys just need to "keep it real" paying a girlfriend and thinking that she genuinely likes you is gullible. It's funny when a guy parades his new girlfriend around, it's very similar to buying or leasing a new car

Apart from your mom, thinking any woman has feelings for you (apart from those arising from self-interest) is a bit gullible.

Personally, I've always enjoyed driving around in a new car.

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Apart from your mom, thinking any woman has feelings for you (apart from those arising from self-interest) is a bit gullible.

Personally, I've always enjoyed driving around in a new car.

like i said further up, if no money is involved it's a bit easier to work out if they genuinely like you or not. A sign is they keep coming back. I enjoy having a love interest, better than only hanging out with guys

15 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

if no money is involved it's a bit easier to work out if they genuinely like you or not.

Good for you,

If there was no money involved, no woman would like me, I'm essentially unlikable to females.

 

I've got a Brit pal, great looking guy, athletic, intelligent, charming ,witty, works hard, earns lots.

The perfect man, apart from one small oddity, he's never wanted to own his own house.

We were chatting one day and he moaned about never being able to keep a girlfriend his entire life, he'd dated some real beauties back in London, but they always wandered off after a while.

 

I said to him, "did they leave before of after they discovered your attitude towards housing?"

A month of so later he got back to me and replied, "I never thought about that before, but it was always shortly after"

If your dealing with a girl with high local value. white skin, tall, slim, beautiful face. absolutely you better be paying a salary if you want to keep her for life. There is no option since obviously she will not be working a job, that is laughable. And there are a list of well off thai men out the door willing to give her everything they have. I have had a couple relationships with these girls, if they know you are well off financially they will give you a chance for 3-6 months, but at some point they will expect a pay off. How is she going to maintain her beauty and high class life style without salary. All that bullsh!t she is injecting at the beauty clinic is expensive. You can think of that first 3-6 months as grooming you to get the best deal possible. As soon as the salary topic comes up you have to bail immediately. 

On 1/22/2020 at 8:34 AM, CartagenaWarlock said:

I pay generous amount to a 19-year old Poseidon model who I impregnated in one week Phuket tour. I pay her for heavenly pleasure of her moist crack and warm body. No, I do not pay her for love. As they say love cannot be bought and only a mother can love a person unconditionally. All other loves are conditional- does not matter if it is a salary or not, though she has professed her love for me during the passionate moment when I was inside her heavenly abode. Here is what I pay her. 40K cash, 30K credit card purchases, and unlimited maternity care in Bumrungrad hospital. I have also promised her a house and a car when the child will be born. Child's fetal DNA is already tested for paternal match. Is it large? Probably but chump change for me. 2K USD/month. I used to pay 6K USD/month to my European and American sugar babies.

expensive trick

40 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

I enjoy being with women along with men and I don't fancy paying for a girlfriend or friend. Pay for sex why not but if you care for someone that's different. Guys just need to "keep it real" paying a girlfriend and thinking that she genuinely likes you is gullible.

In my experience if you don't marry them or make a commitment (let them move in) your "girlfriend" will not stay around.  If you are boyfriend to a woman who is financially independent, doesn't want marriage, doesn't want kids, only wants a boyfriend and willing to pay their own way, you have an ideal relationship for sure.   

I wish you the best,

Peace  

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Good for you,

If there was no money involved, no woman would like me, I'm essentially unlikable to females.

 LOL, why are you unlikeable by females

3 hours ago, Skallywag said:

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

I don't give money to girls even when the pleading starts, many reasons but usually the money is just wasted and i would have to end the friendship after a while. As I don't give any money it's good when we see each other. I'm glad others do give money though.

 

As for paying a girlfriend, they are then just employees and the more you pay the more they dislike you. How do you know if they like you if you pay them? the answer is you won't and it's likely without the money they would go elsewhere

Say you live here on pension of 60,000 baht a month.  Your "girlfriend" works 7 days a week, 8-10 hours a day and makes 25,000 baht a month.  

Why do you feel giving some money is treating her as an "employee"?  She has to eat and pay rent and likely take care of a mother or son or daughter as well.  You on the other hand likely toke care of no-one but yourself. 

And you say "the money is wasted" by her?  Think you have that backwards. 555   Peace

 

if the gf lives in the guys condo rent free and food free and no utilities to pay she will gain significantly and her regular job salary will go a lot farther

5 minutes ago, atyclb said:

 LOL, why are you unlikeable by females

I don't want to buy them a house.

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Good for you,

If there was no money involved, no woman would like me, I'm essentially unlikable to females.

 

I've got a Brit pal, great looking guy, athletic, intelligent, charming ,witty, works hard, earns lots.

The perfect man, apart from one small oddity, he's never wanted to own his own house.

We were chatting one day and he moaned about never being able to keep a girlfriend his entire life, he'd dated some real beauties back in London, but they always wandered off after a while.

 

I said to him, "did they leave before of after they discovered your attitude towards housing?"

A month of so later he got back to me and replied, "I never thought about that before, but it was always shortly after"

Your brit pal probably gave off signals he didn't like committment, not having a house is just one. Girls are getting fatter and fatter in the UK so who would commit to that

Just now, scubascuba3 said:

Your brit pal probably gave off signals he didn't like committment, not having a house is just one. Girls are getting fatter and fatter in the UK so who would commit to that

Tell your gf you aren't going to ever buy a house (in her or in your name).

See how long she stays around.

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Tell your gf you aren't going to ever buy a house (in her or in your name).

See how long she stays around.

Probably true. You could actually make a good case for having a dog rather than a girlfriend. Personally I don't need or want a girlfriend

1 hour ago, at15 said:

If your dealing with a girl with high local value. white skin, tall, slim, beautiful face. absolutely you better be paying a salary if you want to keep her for life. There is no option since obviously she will not be working a job, that is laughable. And there are a list of well off thai men out the door willing to give her everything they have. I have had a couple relationships with these girls, if they know you are well off financially they will give you a chance for 3-6 months, but at some point they will expect a pay off. How is she going to maintain her beauty and high class life style without salary. All that bullsh!t she is injecting at the beauty clinic is expensive. You can think of that first 3-6 months as grooming you to get the best deal possible. As soon as the salary topic comes up you have to bail immediately. 

 

those type of white skin high value women are also in the money game, don't let their appearances fool you. they cater to and are able to attract wealthy thai guys but usually just for fun or second wife. i live in a 99% affluent thai bkk condo and yes there are girls like the ones you describe but there are also girls white skin, prestigious uni degrees( some from overseas), stable nice families, that are not in the money game.

33 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

39 minutes ago, atyclb said:

 LOL, why are you unlikeable by females

I don't want to buy them a house.

 

 

ROFLMAO

22 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Your brit pal probably gave off signals he didn't like committment, not having a house is just one. Girls are getting fatter and fatter in the UK so who would commit to that

 

 

obviously you havn't ridden on the mrt or bts lately or visited gogo bars or beer bars that resemble obesity clinics

Issan.....you met a girl from Issan.....and she wants 50.000 a month to be your GF.  555555! Either you having us on for a laugh or you really are green between the ears.  I am not saying all girls from Issan would be hard pressed to have a daily value of 300 baht, but it would be close.  Same for a lot of other girls.   

28 minutes ago, atyclb said:

 

those type of white skin high value women are also in the money game, don't let their appearances fool you. they cater to and are able to attract wealthy thai guys but usually just for fun or second wife. i live in a 99% affluent thai bkk condo and yes there are girls like the ones you describe but there are also girls white skin, prestigious uni degrees( some from overseas), stable nice families, that are not in the money game.

very true....the only issue is how can one be sure she is not a $-THB-UK£-CHF digger ? Quite a few women are crafty in hiding their true faces until doomsday????, but true that in that case one cannot trust anybody, anytime. ....

.....maybe the alternative could be never to buy in other's name ?....only rent with full open options to walk away one fine morning, with no house, debt, bank accounts in anybody else's name except oneself ? ? ?.....

18 minutes ago, atyclb said:

 

 

obviously you havn't ridden on the mrt or bts lately or visited gogo bars or beer bars that resemble obesity clinics

fat people are invisible to me

8 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

.....maybe the alternative could be never to buy in other's name ?....only rent with full open options to walk away one fine morning, with no house, debt, bank accounts in anybody else's name except oneself ? ? ?.....

Then you're back to the problem of no female company unless you pay them.

To get 'a woman who loves you for yourself' you need to dangle the house carrot.

 

On a side note, ever wondered why guys that live with mom and dad are universally despised by women?

The obvious answer is there's no house to be leveraged out of them, no court will give a woman your mom and dads house when it all goes wrong, she can't phone the police and get you out of the house by making any claims of violence.

 

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Then you're back to the problem of no female company unless you pay them.

To get 'a woman who loves you for yourself' you need to dangle the house carrot.

I do not agree. Not with my European girlfriend anyhow....but maybe you have a point...I do pay her lunch and dinner here and there.....but make sure next time she does????....and the only carrot I dangle to keep the Missus happy,  is mine...not me house carrot

14 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

45 minutes ago, atyclb said:

 

those type of white skin high value women are also in the money game, don't let their appearances fool you. they cater to and are able to attract wealthy thai guys but usually just for fun or second wife. i live in a 99% affluent thai bkk condo and yes there are girls like the ones you describe but there are also girls white skin, prestigious uni degrees( some from overseas), stable nice families, that are not in the money game.

very true....the only issue is how can one be sure she is not a $-THB-UK£-CHF digger ? Quite a few women are crafty in hiding their true faces until doomsday????, but true that in that case one cannot trust anybody, anytime. ....

.....maybe the alternative could be never to buy in other's name ?....only rent with full open options to walk away one fine morning, with no house, debt, bank accounts in anybody else's name except oneself ? ? ?.....

 

it is not difficult to "outcraft" those types of women.   i am lucky because ability to speak and read the language filters out a high % of them much in the way wearing a cross keeps vampires at bay.

8 minutes ago, atyclb said:

 

it is not difficult to "outcraft" those types of women

Very hard to 'outcraft' them in the west.

Apparently in Australia, sleep-overs for more than 50% of the nights over a 2 year stretch gives them entitlement to 50% of everything you own.

 

I guess getting a vasectomy and changing gfs every 18 months should fix the problem.