How much should I pay for my sugar baby

[CartagenaWarlock]

I am 58-year old and recently settled in Thailand with a 20-year elite visa. 

I visited Poseidon and rented a girl a few times and then on one occasion, I asked her to meet me outside the establishment for 5K

She did and then visited my condo almost everyday and stayed with me for 5K for 10/12 hours.. She is 20-year old and I have strong sexual feelings for her and want to possess her still my infatuation with her wears off. . Also, I have feelings to have a child with her. I know this all sound strange but she just makes this old man live again. 

She barely speaks any English and mostly interested in my money. I understand that. Just to test her if she is trust worthy or not, I once gave her an ATM card and asked her to take 15K for her and return the ATM card to me (The card had day's limit 20K) . My card also had one million baht. She returned my card. May be she knew that the card is worthless after 15K. I don't have any way to know it. She asked me to buy her an iPhone and I did. 

 

How can I ask her to stay with me as long as she likes and bear a child with me? Is that even possible in Thailand? If so, how much money should I give her to stay with me? If she had a child with me, I am ready to give 10 million to her. But how do I discuss the subject with a young girl 20-year old. I understand she may have a bf or want to have a bf of her age. But I don't want somebody else having sex with her till she is pregnant and the child is born. After that she can do whatever she wants. And she will get 10 million or even more. 

 

Any suggestions how to execute the plan? Money is not a problem.

Edited May 25, 2019 by CartagenaWarlock

[RotBenz8888]

Here we go again

[madmen]

[Orton Rd]

I'll have your baby for 10 million mate, what colour are you after?

[NanLaew]

Let's see... 10 million to get her interest and another 10 million for breeding successfully.

 

Yup, that's about the going rate.

 

Good luck!

[owl sees all]

Open a bank account and tell her you will put 500 baht a day in the account as long as she does the biz for you. 

 

If she does what you want her to she can have the dosh, If she plays up or disrespects you then she cannot have it.

 

Got to start out calm but firm.

 

Great, thought provoking post CartagenaWarlock.

[david555]

Now we need a picture in full length and character description  to make you a correct quote , you must understand that ….. so we are waiting to help you out on it 

[FoldzNever]

about 350

[White Christmas13]

some posters are trolls or people with no brains

[Pilotman]

In "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy", wasn't the answer to everything 47? 

 

So 47 mate. 

[Pilotman]

6 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said:

some posters are trolls or people with no brains

both usually , they go together. 

[White Christmas13]

6 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

both usually , they go together. 

Edited May 25, 2019 by White Christmas13
wrong i tem

[impulse]

9 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said:

some posters are trolls or people with no brains

 

I don't think that's mutually exclusive.

 

[impulse]

1 hour ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

Money is not a problem.

 

So many Thai foreigner tragedies start with that statement. 

 

Then, one day it is...  

 

You're on a slippery slope.  It's a fun ride, for sure.  But sticking the landing has bamboozled, bankrupted, and just plain killed a lot of guys.  Though it's usually chalked up to suicide or chronic health issues...

 

[UKresonant]

First thing is ascertain if she has any debts and clear those (ie money lender controlling)

Is she working to support family, sponsoring her sister to  go to college etc cover that...

Be careful!

Perhaps she may not have any money management skills.

If you gave her 10 million it may cause her trouble! eg. from her friends, or anyone she tells of it.

Open two bank accounts, at a head office branch, set up a standing order for 30000baht  a month to her account.

I assume you would not disclose the true extent of your wealth, or anything else that would create a profit motive (to anyone, directly or indirectly) for your demise...

Making no opinion on the other part of your plan!

(She is just as likely to have a GF as a BF)

 

Edited May 25, 2019 by UKresonant

[sammieuk1]

Just about everyone on here has strong sexual feelings for every 20 year old they see???? 

[brokenbone]

i kept staying with a girl out of pittance to support her,

it was nothing at all in it for me so it ruined my life,

i cant bring myself to interact with woman any longer,

i suggest keep it business, never pay in advance,

and always put your own well being in the first and second slot

[HeyHeyHey]

He is a Warlock... not surprised he has to pay 5k per half day and 10 mil for a freak kid

 

[observer90210]

Don't cause inflation dear fellow.... enjoy your whistle being serviced but nothing more per session,  then say THB 2'000,-- maximum !!! ????....and give it out in 100 THB and 50 THB notes...it always has more effect as it seems more money to them then two 1'000 THB notes ????

[lemonjelly]

Be a decent chap, buy a motorbike or something and rent various different girls nightly on a grand tour, much more fun and doesn’t involve changing baby diapers, child maintenance or unreasonable cash demands from the in-laws.

[RoadWarrior371]

Can i has one of these "20 year old" rentals?  Do i need to leave a deposit?  Are they 2-stroke, or 4-stroke?

[Andrew Dwyer]

In "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy", wasn't the answer to everything 47? 
 
So 47 mate. 

42 , of course that was a few years ago, now with inflation it might well be 47 !!

[Bang Bang]

3 hours ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

I know this all sound strange but she just makes this old man live again.

Nothing strange at all. The whole point of making money is for a good life. Gals, booze, fast cars, bling, art, whatever floats your boat, good for you that you can afford it.

 

3 hours ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

Just to test her if she is trust worthy or not, I once gave her an ATM card

Now, this I have a problem with. It proves nothing because no gal's going to be dumb enough to gyp a cash cow. She knows she scores brownie points by staying in line, which goes toward earning 5k the next day, and the day after, ...

 

3 hours ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

But I don't want somebody else having sex with her till she is pregnant and the child is born.

Not going to happen. You're an older farang and she's a very attractive (I assume as Poseidon is probably the best MP in town) young Thai female. Even if you look and bang like George Clooney  (well, honestly, I have no idea how George is in the sack but Amal looks happy enough). Because you're too different and because there's a horde of young Thai (her people) studs panting after her.

 

No big deal though. She makes you happy now, right? And, we can safely assume she's got a Thai gik or two going currently as well. So, no reason the same configuration can't continue in the future. Just accept this, ain't that hard.

 

But I see where you're coming from. You want to be sure the child is yours. Well, that'll be pretty easy to verify when the little fella is born. And she knows that. And she knows (or will know) what she stands to lose if the DNA comes back with no sign of Cartagena.

 

Couple of thoughts though:

1. Sex: Why only this one gal? I know she must be good but for 5k/ST you have only to snap your fingers. Play around a bit. Plaza, Emmanuelle, there are other top MPs to poke your head into. If your wealth has made you lazy then dial up escort services and order.

 

My point is that it's a bit unhealthy to decide that only this one gal can get you off when it's certainly not true.

 

2. Child: Play the field and get to know a few different gals and their lives as far as possible. Don't kid yourself. Top end hookers here are not poor gals who cry themselves to sleep each night wondering when their very own Somchai in a shining white chut will ride in.

 

They all make north of 100k/month and some a lot more. Which means they can afford and may already have succumbed to the lures of gambling (mucha many), drugs (many), taking on big debts to finance such bling as a BMW, Hermes Birkin, supporting a handsome gik, and a hiso lifestyle in general. Which means she's not going to have the time or inclination to be a mom.

 

So, when you find someone even mildly wholesome and smart enough to think of life after Poseidon make her an offer which includes leaving her work courtesy a lavish Cartagena-sponsored pension. You don't want someone rushing to drop off your kid at a creche and then to her spot in the fishbowl.

 

And for Christ's sake don't give her 10mil all at once. Makes no sense as you'll lose leverage. Maybe even the kid. Heck, she could turn the tables and use the kid for leverage to extort more (an angel face does not an angel make). I would say 50k/mth allowance to stay with you, board/lodging/incidentals all covered separately.

 

Anyway, good luck. If a 1%er can't be happy where's the hope for the rest of us.

 

Added: Just came to mind Russians (well, Uzbeks, actually) I knew at the now-defunct CM2 and Mixx who left work for exactly similar arrangements: popping a baby for a rich client who committed to pay them circa $1000/mth - which is an enormous sum of money in Tashkent.

 

Heck, if you are not set on a leuk kreng kid you might poke your head into Mixx and talk to some of the Russian/Colombian head-turners who might present you with a beautiful child given the right inducement.

And many of the Uzbeks are, in fact, well educated with maturity and appealing personality (attributes not often to be found in a Thai prostitute).

Edited May 25, 2019 by Bang Bang

[mike787]

BORING!!! Here we go again...another one, like another death by motorcycle news story...as mind numbing as the immigration BS.

[SuperTed]

Isn’t there some way to stop these ridiculous fake posts?

On a more philosophical note, what drives people like the OP? There is no ad revenue to be made, he won’t dig up any interesting personal stories for which people might be shamed, so it does not seem like he’s fulfilling a need to troll. Is it his way of living out a fantasy? By sharing it out loud in a forum?

No one with this much money, mediocre English, suggesting he is from South America knows so little about how to handle prostitutes.

[KhaoYai]

5k a pop, 10 Mill to have a kid? Got to be a wind up. Who in their right mind would want a kid at 58 years old? - the 'practice' yes, the result, no! How long do you think you're going to be around to look after that kid?

 

'and mostly interested in my money'..............not mostly, entirely! When you were 20, do you ever remember looking at 58 year old women and having 'strong sexual feelings' for them? Or for that matter, any feelings at all?

 

If this is not a wind up, and I really think it has to be, the only thing she has any feelings at all for are your wallet and bank account.

 

Please advise where I can buy whatever it is you've been smoking - I want some.

 

Wakey wakey!!!

Edited May 25, 2019 by KhaoYai

[sanemax]

37 minutes ago, SuperTed said:

Isn’t there some way to stop these ridiculous fake posts?

On a more philosophical note, what drives people like the OP? There is no ad revenue to be made, he won’t dig up any interesting personal stories for which people might be shamed, so it does not seem like he’s fulfilling a need to troll. Is it his way of living out a fantasy? By sharing it out loud in a forum?

No one with this much money, mediocre English, suggesting he is from South America knows so little about how to handle prostitutes.

Let them continue , no harm done .

I personally need to get annoyed and infuriated at least  one time a day 

Edited May 25, 2019 by sanemax
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[scorecard]

Baby's / children are not toys, I hope you rethink this again and think a lot more about the immediate and long-terms emotional, welfare and support needs of the child.

 

Grow up!

[simon43]

7 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Just about everyone on here has strong sexual feelings for every 20 year old they see???? 

I see many 20 year old boys in the town, but can't say that I have sexual feelings for them.... ????

[Puchaiyank]

5000 baht a pop! You have lost it man...