Thai man invents pollution free generator that doesn’t need fuel

[snoop1130]

Thai man invents pollution free generator that doesn’t need fuel

 

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A Thai man says he has invented an environmentally friendly power generator that can generate electricity for up to 8 hours without using fuel.

 

Cheun Funkai, 75, who retired from his job at the Electricity Authority of Thailand 12 years ago, says he has been working on the generator for more than a decade.

 

Chonburi based Mr Funkai has copyrighted the device and already received a patent from Thailand’s Ministry of Commerce.

 

While he wouldn’t give away specific details about his generator, he told reporters that rather than needing oil, gas or coal to run, the generator uses a gear system which needs to be wound up by hand for about 15 minutes.

 

Once wound, it will generate electricity for between 6 to 8 hours. 

 

He said it cost him about 16,000 baht to make the prototype generator. 

 

Mr Funkai was featured in a report on Channel 3’s Morning News demonstrating the device. 

 

 

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[Crossy]

But of course, no detail of just how much energy it produces for 8 hours.

 

and, there's no such thing as a new idea https://thegadgetflow.com/blog/wind-up-generator/

 

[sniggie]

Still needs fuel.  Sticky rice and lao khao,

[taichiplanet]

Just now, sniggie said:

Still needs fuel.  Sticky rice and lao khao,

if you get the wife to do it then lao khao not needed

[Beggar]

"gear system which needs to be wound up by hand"

 

Now imagine you let an animal do this that runs in a circle. What a future proof invention. The water buffaloes could do this. But no idea how many of such things I would need to power my aircons... 

[NCC1701A]

I can't believe Nikola Tesla overlooked this.

[Crossy]

Let's not knock the guy, he's designed and built a useful power supply which is green and should produce enough energy for a minimal lifestyle.

 

It's amazing how little power you can get away with and be infinitely more comfortable than with no power at all.

 

[BobBKK]

He can join the doctors who cured Ebola, the researchers who cured HIV and all the other claims down the years. UNLESS he's right of course than he'll be a multi-billionaire and Elon Musk will be phoning soon.

[FarFlungFalang]

6 minutes ago, Crossy said:

But of course, no detail of just how much energy it produces for 8 hours.

 

and, there's no such thing as a new idea https://thegadgetflow.com/blog/wind-up-generator/

 

Well there's enough for a grinder,wonder if it will power my welder?

[Crossy]

1 minute ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Well there's enough for a grinder,wonder if it will power my welder?

 

Sort of, the grinder is running from the battery via an inverter.

 

Just how much cranking is needed to put enough energy into the battery to run the grinder for 5 minutes?

 

[FarFlungFalang]

3 minutes ago, Crossy said:

It's amazing how little power you can get away with and be infinitely more comfortable than with no power at all.

Been there when the oldies did the mud brick thing,lugging car batteries around,this would have been a godsend.

[ukrules]

They've issued a patent for a clockwork generator, this is not going to end well for him.

[FarFlungFalang]

6 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

Sort of, the grinder is running from the battery via an inverter.

 

Just how much cranking is needed to put enough energy into the battery to run the grinder for 5 minutes?

 

It would be interesting to find out I know it could possibly be handy to get by when the power goes out whenever it gets a bit cloudy!Or at night to run the telly and the internet thingymajig!Could also hook it up to the dak dak.

Edited July 4, 2019 by FarFlungFalang
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[KiChakayan]

Peak power output of a top cyclist is about 500 Watts so if Chris Froome wound this generator's spring for 15 minutes if would give us a total potential power output of about 0.125 Kwh. Not everyone is Chris Froome, and of course we are not taking into account the energy spent in the mechanism.

Just another Thai joke, a small one though.

[anterian]

Is he cranking up a flywheel or a spring, what size alternator is he using to charge the battery. Instead of reinventing the wheel he should have bought some teeth.

[tabarin]

This is nonsense and fake. Seems Thailand only loves to make themselves look bad more each day.
It is impossible to generate more power than you put in anything.

A possible way of doing this would be by combining solar with hydrogen which clearly is not the case here (and not unique or new too).

Edited July 4, 2019 by tabarin

[from the home of CC]

you'll know he's on to something if Aramco assassins start arriving at swampy..

[Crossy]

Assuming it has a big spring there's going to be a LOT of energy tied up in there which could get very nasty if something mechanical fails.

 

A gravity (weight) powered generator would be much safer (so long as you're not under the weight).

 

Let's do some sums (hopefully this is right).

 

A 1m³ of concrete (about 2.4 tons) lifted to 3m will have about 70kJ of energy. With a decent hand winch it should be possible to crank the weight up in 15 minutes.

 

Let's release that energy over 7 hours (for easy sums), so that's 10kJ per hour.

 

It's going to be horribly inefficient, say 30% ish so that's 3600J per hour of usable power (again easy sums).

 

3600 seconds in an hour, so that's 1 Joule per second.

 

A Watt is a Joule per second, so our cube of concrete will light a 2W LED for 3.5 hours. Enough to read by. Or a 100W TV for 0.07 hours (5 minutes).

 

Worth it? If you have no power at all most definitely.

 

 

 

[Paul944]

Lets be optimistic. A strong man can produce about 300 Watt with this device. Turning for 1 hour will then give 300 Wh. A grinder in use can be rated as about 1000 Wh. So about 20 minutes of grinding. A nice upgrade for him would be a home trainer driving the dynamo. That is much more efficient.

 

The guy will not have the money to buy a solar panel that has a 600 Watt output during the day. 

 

 

[tabarin]

1 minute ago, Crossy said:

A Watt is a Joule per second, so our cube of concrete will light a 2W LED for 3.5 hours. Enough to read by. Or a 100W TV for 0.07 hours (5 minutes).

Worth it? If you have no power at all most definitely.

Yes so to conclude: nothing new and nothing that matters. African kids have made similar things with a weight that goes down a rope, and generate energy for a light.

[tabarin]

1 minute ago, Paul944 said:

Lets be optimistic. A strong man can produce about 300 Watt with this device. Turning for 1 hour will then give 300 Wh. A grinder in use can be rated as about 1000 Wh. So about 20 minutes of grinding. A nice upgrade for him would be a home trainer driving the dynamo. That is much more efficient.

 

The guy will not have the money to buy a solar panel that has a 600 Watt output during the day. 

Yeah and after that strong man needs to eat to get new energy, so it is not free energy. Electric is cheaper.

Edited July 4, 2019 by tabarin

[StayinThailand2much]

"gear system which needs to be wound up by hand"

 

Now imagine you let an animal do this that runs in a circle. What a future proof invention. The water buffaloes could do this. But no idea how many of such things I would need to power my aircons... 

The water buffaloes can't do this; they're, reportedly, all sick!

 

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[DrTuner]

The only thing you need is a lot of spinach.

 

[Crossy]

2 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

The only thing you need is a lot of spinach.

 

Spinach? ????

 

[Crossy]

13 minutes ago, Paul944 said:

The guy will not have the money to buy a solar panel that has a 600 Watt output during the day. 

 

He spent 16k on his prototype, he could have bought a couple of 300W panels, an inverter and a deep-cycle battery. 

 

And would now be sitting pretty without having to crank the beast.

 

[expatfromwyoming]

Sorry- This is not new but kudos to him for copying something that may prove useful to him- but patenting it????

He likely got the idea from a kids toy

[toofarnorth]

48 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

I can't believe Nikola Tesla overlooked this.

Might be reading about this right now and will appear soon with a long tube that is driven by water and does the same job , out the way Funkai.

[toofarnorth]

7 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

He spent 16k on his prototype, he could have bought a couple of 300W panels, an inverter and a deep-cycle battery. 

 

And would now be sitting pretty without having to crank the beast.

 

Maybe he likes cranking the beast , can give hours of pleasure .

[Reigntax]

58 minutes ago, Crossy said:

Let's not knock the guy, he's designed and built a useful power supply which is green and should produce enough energy for a minimal lifestyle.

 

It's amazing how little power you can get away with and be infinitely more comfortable than with no power at all.

 

Considering the fitest human person can produce an output of approx 125 watts (j/sec)for 5 minutes and it takes him 15 minutes to wind up the spring, the maximum stored energy available, disregarding losses would be 30 watt hours or 0.03kWh.

 

Sorry folks couldnt operate a decent light for even 1 hour.

 

But we should not let the obvious get in the way fantasy. And this guy worked for the electricity authority of Thailand. Kind of makes sense.

Edited July 4, 2019 by Reigntax

[Crossy]

10 minutes ago, Reigntax said:

Sorry folks couldnt operate a decent light for even 1 hour.

 

Even 1W of LED is enough for the youngsters to do their homework.

 

A step in the direction of a better education if you disregard how great the Thai education system isn't.