3 hours ago, brokenbone said:

why did you say that ?

why would you fake what anyone says ?

for me, that goes beyond cringe,

you have no ethics

The person I quoted had done just that earlier in the thread.

3 hours ago, Laza 45 said:

World's oceans at tipping point..https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-25/un-ipcc-climate-report-warns-oceans-at-tipping-point/11547454

fake science yet again, oceans takes hundreds and thousands of years to react in any shape or form to changes in climate.

and btw, it was a helluva lot warmer during bronze age.

man has so far had no impact on climate, but nature does have an impact on mankind, there is a link between warmer climate and greater prosperity for man

Finally, someone is calling BS on the Greta Thunberg abuse. Sky News.

 

 

Are you guys still over here picking on this kid?wow

why doesn't she go bother China, India and other countries instead?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions#/media/File:World_fossil_carbon_dioxide_emissions_1970-2017_six_countries_and_confederations.png

 

https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-chinas-co2-emissions-grew-slower-than-expected-in-2018

 

 

On ‎9‎/‎24‎/‎2019 at 10:22 AM, faraday said:

If this climate change is real - & I doubt it is, then why are we still using plastic bottles?

 

How many of those er protesters use mobile phones, eat meat, drive cars etc? Most of them I expect.

 

Just wondering though....why were the Romans able to grow grapes in the North of England?

Don't let facts get in the way of the dogma!

The amount of pollution caused  by making a mobile phone is astounding but those children all have one, yet they think they have a right to lecture us about pollution!

They run around demanding that governments "do something", but they have no solutions. Perhaps they know nothing, except what the climate alarmists tell them. Not for nothing is climate change described by many as the new religion of the masses.

 

The biggest hypocrisy is that all those climate warriors fly all over the world in planes that emit vast amounts of pollution in the upper atmosphere to talk about climate change. It's like they never heard of teleconferencing.

 

Many on the believer side are saying that Greta shouldn't be criticised because she is a child, but if someone thinks they can address the grown ups in the UN, then they should be treated as an adult. The saying "if you can't stand the heat, don't go in the kitchen" comes to mind.

She's old enough to have sex, drive a car, leave home, get a job- sounds like an adult to me.

11 minutes ago, tgw said:

why doesn't she go bother China, India and other countries instead?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions#/media/File:World_fossil_carbon_dioxide_emissions_1970-2017_six_countries_and_confederations.png

 

https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-chinas-co2-emissions-grew-slower-than-expected-in-2018

 

 

this kampf isnt actually around nature, its just disguised as such, the kampf is against capitalism & prosperity,

and the driver is the parents & ipcc

53 minutes ago, Forethat said:

Finally, someone is calling BS on the Greta Thunberg abuse. Sky News.

 

 

agree with the journalist here,

they instill FUD into greta,

at first glance i thought she was just acting,

but now i think she actually believe this fantasy,

she is fighting monsters, with her life at stake

5 minutes ago, brokenbone said:

agree with the journalist here,

they instill FUD into greta,

at first glance i thought she was just acting,

but now i think she actually believe this fantasy,

she is fighting monsters, with her life at stake

I've heard a few on talkback radio saying that her parents should be charged with child abuse. I agree. A normal 16 year old doesn't come up with the idea they are going to die because of "climate change" on their own.

I haven't seen any 16 year old Syrians addressing the UN on the war in Syria, in which they do, actually, have a good chance of dying.

9 hours ago, balo said:

We all want to get rid of the plastic and find better ways to protect  planet Earth , but not like this. 

I'm not all that bothered about plastic.

(but I do generate some solar electricity)

1 hour ago, brokenbone said:

fake science yet again, oceans takes hundreds and thousands of years to react in any shape or form to changes in climate.

and btw, it was a helluva lot warmer during bronze age.

man has so far had no impact on climate, but nature does have an impact on mankind, there is a link between warmer climate and greater prosperity for man

How did you determine that this is fake news?  Did you consult your ouija board? 

On 9/23/2019 at 4:52 PM, RickBradford said:

Greta Thunberg is the perfect spokesperson for the modern "progressive" Green/Left.

 

Completely ignorant, yet totally convinced she is right. No wonder they all fawn over her.

We can all see that Ms Thunberg is very convinced in her opinion.  What convinces you that she is "completely ignorant"?  Are you basing your opinion on what someone else told you or do you have decades of solid scientific research under your belt that enables you to refute her argument?

1 hour ago, tgw said:

why doesn't she go bother China, India and other countries instead?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions#/media/File:World_fossil_carbon_dioxide_emissions_1970-2017_six_countries_and_confederations.png

 

https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-chinas-co2-emissions-grew-slower-than-expected-in-2018

 

 

Because the UN wasnt meeting there.

13 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

We can all see that Ms Thunberg is very convinced in her opinion.  What convinces you that she is "completely ignorant"?  Are you basing your opinion on what someone else told you or do you have decades of solid scientific research under your belt that enables you to refute her argument?

Complaining that old people have stolen her dreams is not scientific evidence of anything to do with climate change. If she thinks it is she is displaying ignorance, IMO, of the real world.

If anything, her rant at the Un is just ammunition for those that disagree with her.

Someone put her rant to music to mock her already.

Petulant children don't get to address the UN on their own, so I'm of the opinion that if we follow the money, we will find who is behind her.

10 hours ago, balo said:

I think she is mentally sick , her mother who is a radical  environmentalist is pushing her to the limit. 

So this will not end well, for her. And other teenagers now brainwashed for the rest of their lives. I hope they can get professional help. 

We all want to get rid of the plastic and find better ways to protect  planet Earth , but not like this. 


 

Enlighten me. How would you do it?

2 hours ago, brokenbone said:

fake science yet again, oceans takes hundreds and thousands of years to react in any shape or form to changes in climate.

and btw, it was a helluva lot warmer during bronze age.

man has so far had no impact on climate, but nature does have an impact on mankind, there is a link between warmer climate and greater prosperity for man

You must communicate that to Australian farmers sometime.

Just now, Lacessit said:

Enlighten me. How would you do it?

I'd do it by finding realistic ways to make people have less children. The problem, if it is man made, is caused by too many people, ergo reduce people, reduce the problem.

In the meantime, I'd put a refundable deposit on every piece of disposable plastic sold, so it didn't end up in the oceans.

I'd ban private cars in cities and build decent public transport systems- I never owned a vehicle in London; didn't need one.

I'd ban casual air travel and build hi speed electrified railways instead.

I'd force shipping companies to carry non perishable cargoes in wind powered ships, where there are reliable winds ( wind powered ships do not have to use sails ).

I'd make politicians use teleconferencing instead of flying to meetings.

Plenty of other similar ideas that would work. 

 

What ideas do you have to solve the problem?

1 hour ago, Laza 45 said:

How did you determine that this is fake news?  Did you consult your ouija board? 

no, i consulted ice samples and a real scientist on oceanography, watch from 21.50 to 28.00.

do you have six minutes to spare ?

 

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I've heard a few on talkback radio saying that her parents should be charged with child abuse. I agree. A normal 16 year old doesn't come up with the idea they are going to die because of "climate change" on their own.

I haven't seen any 16 year old Syrians addressing the UN on the war in Syria, in which they do, actually, have a good chance of dying.

How about a Pakistani child, shot by the Taliban, addressing the UN on her 16th birthday?

 

If, you were impressed with Greta's speech, you'll be amazed by this.

 

 

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'd do it by finding realistic ways to make people have less children. The problem, if it is man made, is caused by too many people, ergo reduce people, reduce the problem.

In the meantime, I'd put a refundable deposit on every piece of disposable plastic sold, so it didn't end up in the oceans.

I'd ban private cars in cities and build decent public transport systems- I never owned a vehicle in London; didn't need one.

I'd ban casual air travel and build hi speed electrified railways instead.

I'd force shipping companies to carry non perishable cargoes in wind powered ships, where there are reliable winds ( wind powered ships do not have to use sails ).

I'd make politicians use teleconferencing instead of flying to meetings.

Plenty of other similar ideas that would work. 

 

What ideas do you have to solve the problem?

Quite a few along the same lines as yours. Add in conversion to hydrogen-based fuels. Houses that generate their own electricity and store their own water. Instead of millions of cars going to shopping malls, have thousands of delivery vans servicing internet shopping, as it was before the car population exploded.

Accelerate the development of thorium -based nuclear reactors to generate electricity. Inherently safe.

Reward savers instead of borrowers. Scrap the current indicators of economic "success",  and replace them with KPI's based on a country's environmental performance. Tax multinationals on their revenue streams instead of their declared profits. Punish countries who permit indiscriminate burning and logging with sanctions.

Mandate biodegradable plastic. If it doesn't break down, ban it.

Some of this may happen. My guess is the majority will not

 

16 hours ago, luk AJ said:

Imagine Greta assisting during a brain surgery.. complex matters need to be assessed by educated people. You probably misunderstood and assumed I have no respect for uneducated people which is an incorrect conclusion. I just believe that you need specialists for specific problems.


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Oh ...great!

So the vast majority of the (significant for climate and stuff) scientific community says climate change is real and man made!

Happy, we got that settled, then!

14 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I'm scared of her, she looks like the kind of woman who would accuse a guy of touching her when they walked by.

Imagine being her bf and trying to dump her? The false accusations would never end, it'd be Mia and Woody all over again.

What has that got to do with anything?

 

12 hours ago, balo said:

I think she is mentally sick , her mother who is a radical  environmentalist is pushing her to the limit. 

So this will not end well, for her. And other teenagers now brainwashed for the rest of their lives. I hope they can get professional help. 

We all want to get rid of the plastic and find better ways to protect  planet Earth , but not like this. 


 

Yeah...please ...not like this!

Not like holding the world's leaders and all politicians accountable, for being in the pocket of the (for example) oil- industry and the coal- industry!

That would be ridiculous!

 

4 hours ago, brokenbone said:

fake science yet again, oceans takes hundreds and thousands of years to react in any shape or form to changes in climate.

and btw, it was a helluva lot warmer during bronze age.

man has so far had no impact on climate, but nature does have an impact on mankind, there is a link between warmer climate and greater prosperity for man

????????

(I assume, since these little pictures are available on this page, I am allowed to use them in this combination?!)

4 hours ago, brenton said:

family values ?

Yeah!

Fighting fascism!

Booooooh!

The nerves of these people!

3 hours ago, tgw said:

why doesn't she go bother China, India and other countries instead?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions#/media/File:World_fossil_carbon_dioxide_emissions_1970-2017_six_countries_and_confederations.png

 

https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-chinas-co2-emissions-grew-slower-than-expected-in-2018

 

 

You do understand, she was talking before the UNITED NATIONS, right!?

59 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

How about a Pakistani child, shot by the Taliban, addressing the UN on her 16th birthday?

 

If, you were impressed with Greta's speech, you'll be amazed by this.

 

 

I think you don't understand!

This was a poor little girl, attacked by Muslims - the cause of all evil in the world!

The other one was just a spoiled brat, ranting for ecofascism and against prosperity and progress!

>sarcasm mode off<

Actually, I find both of them very inspiring and awesome, each in their own way!

 

16 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

????????

(I assume, since these little pictures are available on this page, I am allowed to use them in this combination?!)

yes, since you are out of arguments and know

i can and will rebut any argument you wish to make on the topic of climate,

smileys is the only thing you got

1 hour ago, DannyCarlton said:

How about a Pakistani child, shot by the Taliban, addressing the UN on her 16th birthday?

 

If, you were impressed with Greta's speech, you'll be amazed by this.

 

 

She is one of my hero’s!!

3 minutes ago, brokenbone said:

yes, since you are out of arguments and know

i can and will rebut any argument you wish to make on the topic of climate,

smileys is the only thing you got

By posting the same old, a hundred times debunked youtube- clip over and over and over again, stating that it tooooootally debunks all and every scientist in the world, relevant for climate science?

Yeah...I am absolutely shaking in my boots!