Best all-rounder 4 door (double cab) pick-up these days

[mirtl]

Looking for the best overall in terms of performance, comfort, interior, looks etc.

Will primarily be used as family vehicle, commuting, and not for hauling heavy loads.

Currently leaning toward the Ford Ranger Wildtrak,  bi-turbo 2l or Toyoto Revo Rocco 2.8l.

If there better options out there, please share.

Edited October 2, 2019 by mirtl

[cornishcarlos]

If you not going to hauling loads then why not get a SUV ?? 

[transam]

You will not find a more reliable truck than the Revo, plus it's a bit cheaper than the Ford......

[mirtl]

15 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

If you not going to hauling loads then why not get a SUV ?? 

May use the back for sports equipment, bicycles etc.  SUVs are also more expensive.

Now, back on topic.  Does anyone have any other pick-up recommendations?

[metisdead]

An inflammatory post has been removed. 

[richard_smith237]

52 minutes ago, mirtl said:

May use the back for sports equipment, bicycles etc.  SUVs are also more expensive.

Now, back on topic.  Does anyone have any other pick-up recommendations?

 

Makes a lot of sense - Lugging bicycles around in an SUV is still a pain. If carrying it inside the vehicle the seats have to come down and a front wheel may have to come off (depending on size of bike and car)... the utility of a pickup is unsurpassed. 

 

A friend in the UK has the VW Amarok (3.0 V6) - it really shifts and is very nicely kitted out inside - If they sold these here at a decent price they'd corner the market (expat market at least, as the Thai Trust remains with Toyota). 

 

Thus: The Ford and Toyota are the best sellers here for a reason - Toyota if you want the better resale and better service (Ford has a poor reputation for service - I'm not sure if this has improved or not). 

[BestB]

I have had Toyota , mitsu and now onto ford wildtrack. Ford by bar the best in terms of quality ride and comfort and interior space and quality of it.

 

mitsu offers more gadgets but somewhat small inside and cheapish interior.

 

toyota is just plain boring with bumpy ride. 
 

Also Ford does good deals with lots of accessories thrown in as well as cash discounts 

[giddyup]

Any recommendations will probably come down to current ownerships and preferences. I doubt if there is one standout pickup, they are all pretty good. I have a Triton for the past five years that has performed flawlessly, is it the best? How would I know, haven't owned them all.

[kwonitoy]

Have personal experience with Isuzu, Toyota, Ford, Chev, Mitsu at work

I bought a Wildtrack Ford 6 years ago and would buy another if it needed replacing 

[BestB]

18 hours ago, transam said:

You will not find a more reliable truck than the Revo, plus it's a bit cheaper than the Ford......

No it’s not 

[giddyup]

38 minutes ago, kwonitoy said:

 

I bought a Wildtrack Ford 6 years ago and would buy another if it needed replacing 

Reasons?

[billd766]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Makes a lot of sense - Lugging bicycles around in an SUV is still a pain. If carrying it inside the vehicle the seats have to come down and a front wheel may have to come off (depending on size of bike and car)... the utility of a pickup is unsurpassed. 

 

A friend in the UK has the VW Amarok (3.0 V6) - it really shifts and is very nicely kitted out inside - If they sold these here at a decent price they'd corner the market (expat market at least, as the Thai Trust remains with Toyota). 

 

Thus: The Ford and Toyota are the best sellers here for a reason - Toyota if you want the better resale and better service (Ford has a poor reputation for service - I'm not sure if this has improved or not). 

I have had my Ford Ranger 4x4, 2.5 turbo diesel double cab 18 years now with just short of 4xx,xxx km on the clock. It still rattles along and it still looks reasonable after it has had a good wash and polish.

 

If I had the money I would buy another Ford Ranger but the hi liner without the 4x4 as I rarely use it, and automatic.

 

https://www.ford.co.th/en/trucks/ranger/

 

 

[mirtl]

3 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

Have personal experience with Isuzu, Toyota, Ford, Chev, Mitsu at work

I bought a Wildtrack Ford 6 years ago and would buy another if it needed replacing 

Thanks to all for the responses so far.  Any thoughts on the new 2l bi-turbo diesel Wildtrak compared to what you bought 6 years back, presumably 3.2l?

Edited October 3, 2019 by mirtl

[kwonitoy]

34 minutes ago, mirtl said:

Thanks to all for the responses so far.  Any thoughts on the new 2l bi-turbo diesel Wildtrak compared to what you bought 6 years back, presumably 3.2l?

Haven't driven the 2l bi turbo, but I love my 3.2

No replacement for displacement 

[kwonitoy]

3 hours ago, giddyup said:

Reasons?

I think its the best truck, and where I live in Udon Thani the Ford dealer network is excellent

[BestB]

2 hours ago, mirtl said:

Thanks to all for the responses so far.  Any thoughts on the new 2l bi-turbo diesel Wildtrak compared to what you bought 6 years back, presumably 3.2l?

I have the latest one, it’s much nicer interior to previous , power wise roughly on par with an old 2.2 but I would say little more power, more responsive and more smooth and more economical. 

Edited October 3, 2019 by BestB

[giddyup]

1 hour ago, kwonitoy said:

I think its the best truck, and where I live in Udon Thani the Ford dealer network is excellent

That's your reason, you think it's the best truck? Well, you've convinced me, I'm off to the Ford dealers tomorrow.

[NanLaew]

5 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

I think its the best truck,

This.

 

5 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

where I live in Udon Thani the Ford dealer network is excellent

And this.

[transam]

15 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

I think its the best truck, and where I live in Udon Thani the Ford dealer network is excellent

With a Toyota you don't need a Toyota Dealer round the corner, they have built in reliability...????

[transam]

The bi-turbo's power comes from the fancy two stage turbo, if it goes tits up you are left with the 2ltr engine. I just wonder if you do have a turbo problem, how much it would cost to fix it in LOS...????

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, transam said:

With a Toyota you don't need a Toyota Dealer round the corner, they have built in reliability...????

But only of if you stick religiously to the manufacturers maintenance and service schedule... ask your Toyo nemesis fredo.

 

2 hours ago, transam said:

The bi-turbo's power comes from the fancy two stage turbo, if it goes tits up you are left with the 2ltr engine. I just wonder if you do have a turbo problem, how much it would cost to fix it in LOS...????

Yes, the global motoring press is absolutely chock full of stories of Ford's catastrophic 'fancy' bi-turbo failures.

 

FWIW, the Ford Ranger turbo swapfest is alive and well in Thailand where folks that know their Ford engines inside out have reaped the benefits of swapping 2.2 and 3.2  turbo innards about. This is Thailand 2019 and turbo's are not some new-fangled, mysterious and delicate western engine accessory.

[NanLaew]

16 hours ago, giddyup said:

That's your reason, you think it's the best truck? Well, you've convinced me, I'm off to the Ford dealers tomorrow.

Some people like Pizza Hut while others prefer The Pizza Company because their choice is based on the one they consider as being 'the best.'

 

Take your open opinion on pickups to the dealerships, do a few test drives, maybe rent one or two and make up your own mind rather than question someone who is obviously happy with his own choice.

[giddyup]

3 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Some people like Pizza Hut while others prefer The Pizza Company because their choice is based on the one they consider as being 'the best.'

 

Take your open opinion on pickups to the dealerships, do a few test drives, maybe rent one or two and make up your own mind rather than question someone who is obviously happy with his own choice.

You can't just say "I think it's the best" without qualifying your statement in some way. If you say you prefer Pizza Hut to Pizza Company you can say because their toppings are better, base more crispy, whatever, not just that it's the best. Shouldn't have to explain the obvious.

[LennyW]

Got my Revo Rocco 2.8 a couple of months ago and it is an excellent truck, superior level of comfort, great performance - i dont even have to put it in sport mode!!, airbags everywhere, i am very happy with it.

[NanLaew]

24 minutes ago, giddyup said:

You can't just say "I think it's the best" without qualifying your statement in some way. If you say you prefer Pizza Hut to Pizza Company you can say because their toppings are better, base more crispy, whatever, not just that it's the best. Shouldn't have to explain the obvious.

But what each INDIVIDUAL person considers as something they like and being a significant influence on their decision to purchase is very subjective. Some (like me) may want the larger body solely as making them feel safer on Thai roads than a sedan would. Others (like me) may actually need the ability to haul up to 7,500 lbs with ease. A third demographic (like me) may simply like the styling and look of the truck on the road or parked up.

 

I am on my second Ranger and here are some of my reasons why I think it's the best.

 

• The thin and crispy base is REALLY thin and crispy.
• Their 'large' is 12% larger than the nearest competitor's 'large'.
• Despite the slices being a bit smaller, their pepperoni is tastier.
• More, larger dine-in locations (in Udon Thani anyway)
• Their home delivery is faster.

 

Edited October 4, 2019 by NanLaew

[KKr]

First of all, and that is maybe just me, I do not care what a car looks like or whether the model gets different fancy lines every year.
A car is a tool that has to take me from A to B in reasonable comfort and safety.
Having said that, I'd suggest to look at Isuzu.
Drove over 100.000 km,
Regular Service 3L-turbo (at 2K revs usually fastest at the traffic light); 
yet minimal maintenance expense
( tires after 80K and change of battery ).
Also, gets some of the best scores for road-stability,
and is made by a truck manufacturer thus built to last.

Edited October 4, 2019 by KKr

[NanLaew]

23 minutes ago, KKr said:

(at 2K revs usually fastest at the traffic light)

Does that mean you have a better success rate at running the red light than the other pickups?

[kwonitoy]

1 hour ago, giddyup said:

You can't just say "I think it's the best" without qualifying your statement in some way. If you say you prefer Pizza Hut to Pizza Company you can say because their toppings are better, base more crispy, whatever, not just that it's the best. Shouldn't have to explain the obvious.

Have personal experience with Isuzu, Toyota, Ford, Chev, Mitsu at work ( forgot to add Nissan originally)

 

Does this not qualify as "qualifying"? 

or is it not obvious

Edited October 4, 2019 by kwonitoy
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[giddyup]

5 minutes ago, kwonitoy said:

Have personal experience with Isuzu, Toyota, Ford, Chev, Mitsu at work ( forgot to add Nissan originally)

 

Does this not qualify as "qualifying"? 

or is it not obvious

No, you still need to say why it's better than the others. 

Edited October 4, 2019 by giddyup

[transam]

7 minutes ago, kwonitoy said:

Have personal experience with Isuzu, Toyota, Ford, Chev, Mitsu at work ( forgot to add Nissan originally)

 

Does this not qualify as "qualifying"? 

or is it not obvious

What experience, at work, have owned etc...?