Do you still avoid Ford Focus ?

[thairookie]

The used ones come really cheap.  I'm referring to this model:

 

 

What's with this model in Thailand ?  Unreliable ?

[Henryford]

The problem was the issues with the dual clutch gearbox on the Focus and Fiesta models. Some problems for the 2012-15 models. Shame because they were both great cars. I have had my Fiesta for over 4 years and no problems whatsoever. Supposedly Ford fixed it with software updates.

[macahoom]

I had a 2013 Ford Focus S from new until last month when I sold it and got peanuts for it.

 

What a fantastic car! No gearbox problems with mine.

 

The person who bought it from me got a real bargain.

[terryw]

I understand that Ford are soon to stop selling Fiesta and Focus models in Thailand.

[1FinickyOne]

When it comes to cars, I just hope they avoid me... there is this black Fortuna that always seems to be on my tail - anyone seen him? 

[davemos]

Ive had a Focus for 4 years and its great ! Ford fixed the clutch.problem and now now judder or missing gears .It was cheap and the specs safety wise and software are good .Good car and underrated !

[Happy Grumpy]

Nope.

 

It's the equivalent of taking home a Thai disco girl that has a 5 o'clock shadow.

 

Even though they're cheap, it's just too risky.

[Henryford]

37 minutes ago, terryw said:

I understand that Ford are soon to stop selling Fiesta and Focus models in Thailand.

I think they stopped some time ago. No mention of Focus/Fiesta on their web site.

[VocalNeal]

23 hours ago, Henryford said:

The problem was customers/drivers not understanding  the dual clutch gearbox

There fixed that for you.

 

Mate has a Fiesta. never heard him complaining about it. 

Edited October 10, 2019 by VocalNeal

[Grandpa Cool]

I bought a 2013 Focus Sports model when it was 15 months old with 25,000 km on the clock. It was still under warranty. About a year later Ford replaced the clutch and gearbox under warranty. It was shuddering. The spare parts were sent from the USA. It's a great little car. I plan to keep it. 

[HTC]

If you buy the later facelift model, they are an EcoBoost turbo engine without the troublesome dual clutch gearbox.

 

The MK4 won't come to Thailand as the market has lost confidence with the brand.

 

They only sell trucks and SUVs here now.

[rwill]

6 minutes ago, HTC said:

If you buy the later facelift model, they are an EcoBoost turbo engine without the troublesome dual clutch gearbox.

 

The MK4 won't come to Thailand as the market has lost confidence with the brand.

 

They only sell trucks and SUVs here now.

And Mustangs.  Ford went of the sedan business it only sells trucks and suvs in the US too.

[Thaidream]

Had a 2003 Ford Focus for  12 years- 500,000 K-  no trouble- finaly gave out in 2015.  Purchased a 2015 Ford Fiesta- nothing but trouble- 6 speed trans never worked right- they could not fix it-  many people in both Thailand and USA have gone to court in a class action - suit- still ongoing.  

[chilly07]

Ford's have always been cheaply produced and used to be cheap to repair. They got ideas above their station and tried to compete with upmarket competition and have failed!

[BestB]

The all new Focus gets great reviews but not too sure if it will change how it holds value. 

[transam]

5 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

There fixed that for you.

 

Mate has a Fiesta. never heard him complaining about it. 

The vast majority will not have a problem, but with the production numbers involved, a lot will have problems.

[MatteoBassini]

I had a Fiesta.

 

Bought in 2017 with 20,000 KM on the clock. Transmission shat itself after 5,000 KM. After going in and out of the Ford dealer 4 times due to their cheapstake trial-and-error fix as they've been advised by the parent company, the transmission was replaced under warranty, taking over a month and no loaner car given (I don't know why I still expect to have this Thailand, but it's quite pathetic to expect customers to use the non-existent public transport in Pattaya).

 

Reached 50,000 KM before selling it, had no issues after transmission was replaced. But 30,000 KM is absolutely nothing and doesn't tell anything about whether or not the transmission will last. For those who really want a Fiesta, buy it and manual swap it. Costs 50k including labor and 100k in depreciation because it's a manual.

 

For those that really want a Focus but are worried, get the new one with the 1.5 ecoboost engine, the transmission has been replaced with a traditional torque-converter automatic. 2 year old Focus for 500,000 baht is a steal in my opinion.

[elgenon]

On 10/9/2019 at 6:21 PM, Henryford said:

I think they stopped some time ago. No mention of Focus/Fiesta on their web site.

I heard Ford will stop making cars in America due to lack of interest. Only SUVs and trucks. I guess crossovers are included.

[alacrity]

It used to be the most popular small car in Europe. Drove several and fitted with the right sized engine I liked it.

Then along came 'environmental requirements' and the upgrades didn't adapt well with a retrospective design.

 

Kudos to Ford for accepting their heritage and expertise to do what they're good at, rather than be dictated to.

 

[thairookie]

On 10/10/2019 at 8:24 PM, MatteoBassini said:

 

For those that really want a Focus but are worried, get the new one with the 1.5 ecoboost engine, the transmission has been replaced with a traditional torque-converter automatic. 2 year old Focus for 500,000 baht is a steal in my opinion.

The model on my first post is a 2015 model.  Is this the model that has the problematic gearbox ?  

[NanLaew]

11 minutes ago, thairookie said:

The model on my first post is a 2015 model.  Is this the model that has the problematic gearbox ?  

From a Google of "ford focus bad gearbox"

 

 

You're welcome.

Edited October 21, 2019 by NanLaew