Pattaya pushes infrastructure projects to boost tourism

[Borzandy]

13 hours ago, Skallywag said:

Wow - not even sure of the location. A project consisting of shops, pubs, restaurants.... "expected to be completed by April" ?  Better start soon ! ????

Do not you know the building whose construction has been stopped for years because it is in a public area. It has been sufficient to produce a false document proving that the area is now private.

[tonysilly]

Can you push all the nasty people out too???  You know who they are.

[Chassa]

I liked the old pier, before it was 'walking street', great seafood and very Thai!

[DPKANKAN]

"expecting to boost the number of tourists to more than 2 million" er more like "expecting to boost his bank account by about 20 million!!" 5555 ????????????????

[PatOngo]

11 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

i have been all over Thailand and I don't remember the smell of open sewers like in Pattaya.

it would hit you in the face everywhere you went.

 

Ahhh Pattaya! The smell of success!

[mikebell]

14 hours ago, Lungstib said:

What tourists would really like to see is clean water, rubbish free beaches, no traffic jams, less crime and a hassle free holiday. Extra people doesn't quite cut it. 

And fewer police during the day; more at night.

[Srikcir]

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

“We will open a Public Private Partnership joint venture for the private sector, likely from China, to invest in this project. The construction will begin late next year along with the high-speed train project,”

Chinese funding in almost every newly planned transportation infrastructure project since Prayut came to power. 

There's really no indication of any Thailand-based private investment in Thailand.

The former is great for China's GDP growth rate; the latter is a sad reality it seems that Thai private investment is unwilling to take such risks that weakens Thailand's chances for GDP growth rate. 

[BestB]

But when will you solve the problem of flooding and illegal parking on the beach?

[akampa]

This is a second rate country ,like posts have mentioned from beaches to sea water to filthy streets and on and on this infrastructure should have happened a long time ago with planning it could have been a very beautiful country not one large dustbin,I like the Thai people but why would anybody come for a vacation ? A real shame for the sake of money.

[Millcx]

14 hours ago, Just1Voice said:

I want some of whatever they are taking. lol

Defo good stuff that’s for sure “;0)

[waders123]

First:  Invest heavily into wastewater management; reroute all wastewater and runoff away from the ocean to an inland treatment facility.  The beach will be more attractive to the tourist.

Second:  Set limits and hours that tour buses are allowed to be operated on the streets in Pattaya.

Third:  Invest heavily and enforce mass transit along major routes in Pattaya.

 

This are things that need to take priority over more restaurants on the waterfront.  

 

[spiekerjozef]

they only have to 'push' one person out

[unamazedloso]

more empty places?.. genius!

 

so there was only 1.7 tourists this year? Was 2 but one was hacked up on arrival by someone from myanmar i guess.

[hotchilli]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Pattaya pushes infrastructure projects to boost tourism

How about dealing with the waste water management system so the ocean isn't polluted.
How about dealing with the piles of rubbish that doesn't get collected that stinks in the midday heat.

How about sorting out the beach so it doesn't disappear every year.

How about sorting out the CCTV so that thieves don't get a free pop at tourists every day.

How about sorting out the taxis and tuk tuk mafia.

I could go on.... but I think you get the message, forget the grand plans fix what you got first!!!!

[klauskunkel]

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

to boost the number of tourists to more than 2 million per year from the current 1.7 people, city deputy mayor Manoch Nongyai said on Wednesday (November 27).

he also said on Wednesday (November 27): Tourism: Indians "last hope" for Pattaya as Thai media reports massive high season decline

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In 2018 a total of 14,259,261 tourists visited Pattaya, Thailand's leading resort. 

Looks like he lost 12 mio tourists along the way. Let's hope an honest taxi driver will save the day and return them at a police station.

[Damrongsak]

1 hour ago, DoctorG said:

lipstick/pig

They'll figure it out some day.

 

[DUNROAMIN]

14 hours ago, Skallywag said:

Wow - not even sure of the location. A project consisting of shops, pubs, restaurants.... "expected to be completed by April" ?  Better start soon ! ????

Wow, just what Pattaya needs. more shops, pubs and restaurants. A pier that will sit out in dirty, smelly water, that should make the tourist come back.!

[Liverpudlian]

Pattaya is the worlds busiest toilet were they sweep broken dreams off the streets every day .

[moe666]

They will make pattaya another place in Thailand that people do not want to go to. People come to see walking street, a friend was just down there and walking street very busy but the bars no customers, one bar has a special on three bottles of San Miguel for 120 B thats cost. They had no takers

[IAMHERE]

15 hours ago, Lungstib said:

What tourists would really like to see is clean water, rubbish free beaches, no traffic jams, less crime and a hassle free holiday. Extra people doesn't quite cut it. 

I can not disagree, I have drank a drink with  and learned many tourist don't understand much more than where is the cold beer and the hot ladies. 

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, Prairieboy said:

Just look what the Indians have done in their own country!  River Yamuna.

Wow, great idea -- clean up a polluted river by throwing soap in it!  Brilliant!

 

 

[brianthainess]

2 hours ago, DoctorG said:

lipstick/pig

Or pigs ear/ silk purse

[brianthainess]

13 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

i have been all over Thailand and I don't remember the smell of open sewers like in Pattaya.

it would hit you in the face everywhere you went.

Sulfa gases while sitting in an open restaurant. Mmm lovely NO i did not order egg !  ????

Edited November 28, 2019 by brianthainess

[Darkside Gray]

Why am I not reading this???

[spidermike007]

13 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

i was in Pattaya for a month on my motorcycle. the roads were all torn up everywhere you looked.

beach road, second road, everywhere. it rained and beach road flooded. the Chinese tourists were trying to cross the road with traffic backing up.   

 

i have been all over Thailand and I don't remember the smell of open sewers like in Pattaya.

it would hit you in the face everywhere you went.

 

 

 

 

 

You get some of that same "used up, washed out dishrag quality" in Samui too. Except in Samui, there are far fewer locals these days, so there is absolutely no local pride. At least in Pattaya there is some. Once you get further east, there are some really beautiful areas. 

 

In terms of tourism, it is way, way too late. The train left the station five to ten years ago, and you cannot catch it now. The monumental number of mistakes that have been made are irreparable. They will just stick with lower to lower middle class Chinese and Indians. The ones with money might come once, but they never return for a dozen good reasons. Vietnam is taking over the mantle, that the Thai authorities have unwittingly surrendered. 

 

I think perhaps a few decades from now, they will have tourism classes at university, where they will discuss how Thailand lost the golden egg of Western tourism. Those tourists, unlike most Chinese tourists, spent anywhere from $100 a day, to over $2,000 a day. They brought real money into the country, and in exchange, were treated with utter and complete disregard, scammed, disrespected, and abused. Eventually, most said no more. Thailand thought the country was something very special, that this was the center of the known universe, and that nobody would ever say no, or find alternative places to visit. The fact is that there are countless other spots, many in this region, that offer better service, more expertise in food and beverage (especially wine service and selection at fair prices, which rich tourists demand), reasonable import duties to sustain a luxury goods market, better training, and far better english skills. Thailand simply lost sight of the big picture, and had very little vision, with regard to big spending tourists, who need to be catered to, instead of scorned. So, what happened? The Western tourists started to decline in number, and the genius minds at the TAT decided it was time to "lure" the Chinese, and now the Indians. They came. They came in droves. But, they did not spend much money. Hotels, restaurants, gift shops, jewelers, galleries, spas, massage shops, bars, and countless other businesses suffered, and will continue to suffer from this extreme myopia, on the part of the officials in charge of tourism. Oh well. Can't say they were not warned. Zero baht tourists are perhaps the majority who visit Thailand now. Sure, they spend some money in restaurants, and in 7/11. But, that is about it, for some of the super low budget Chinese tours. Not many rich Chinese are not visiting Thailand, for a dozen good reasons. They have too many other options.

 

There are countless things the government could be doing, if they wanted to attract the high quality tourists. The very first thing would be to repeal the anti faring wine bill, that was passed by a few very corrupt senators way back when, to protect an anemic local wine industry. They are losing billions of dollars a year in revenue, that would be had from a 100% wine duty, instead of 400%. The five star hotels would have major wine events, and the entire industry would flourish here. Same with luxury spending. Wealthy tourists do not want to come to a country that does not allow them to spend $5,000, $10,000, $25,000 and up on gifts and prizes, without feeling like they are getting bamboozled over inane luxury taxes. 

 

[Darkside Gray]

The light rail system will take years to complete and cause massive traffic problems through out construction, once completed will the traffic problems be reduced with less parking and narrower roads.

[Skallywag]

42 minutes ago, DUNROAMIN said:

Wow, just what Pattaya needs. more shops, pubs and restaurants. A pier that will sit out in dirty, smelly water, that should make the tourist come back.!

Jomtien, South Pattaya, North Pattaya and Koh Larn are still considered safe, he said, but the decline in quality is worrying and worsening.....

Pattaya’s main wastewater-treatment plant is on Soi Nongyai, which can process up to 80,000 cu. meters daily. A proposed second phase would bring total capacity up to 130,000 cu. meters a day and currently is undergoing environmental assessment.

A second plant serving the Jomtien Beach area is located on Soi Wat Boonkan­chanaram and receives about 20,000 cu. meters of water a day, but has the capacity to handle 63,000 cu. meters daily. https://pattayacityhome.com/news/clearing-pattaya-shorewater

 

They say they are "Studying" the wastewater problem and looking at solutions.  Possible that the new storm drains along beach road being installed now will help about 1.5 meters in diameter.  It is sad that the Pattaya has ignored this problem for many years.  Jomtien can handle much more wastewater, but how to get it there

[Isaan sailor]

No matter how much they try to change it, bar girls built Pattaya, and the bar girls will continue as the main draw.

[Orton Rd]

1 minute ago, Isaan sailor said:

No matter how much they try to change it, bar girls built Pattaya, and the bar girls will continue as the main draw.

These days overweight, tattooed up phone addicted air heads are not much of a draw either, nor the prices they want for mechanical activity.

[Damrongsak]

22 minutes ago, DUNROAMIN said:

Wow, just what Pattaya needs. more shops, pubs and restaurants. A pier that will sit out in dirty, smelly water, that should make the tourist come back.!

Yep, a few more malls and mega projects.  Westernize it without the appropriate infrastructure.  Make it a third world approximation of a modern city and remove any charm at all.  Why visit Thailand at all? 

 

Of course I'm a dinosaur.  Lived in Thailand for 3 years, forty years ago.  One year in BKK in an old 3-room wood house in a quiet compound in the Pratunam area.  At about 1,200 Baht a month we had electricity, cold water and window screens (wooden shutters, no glass).  Still had to sleep under a mosquito net. Crude but charming and safe.  That place is now underneath the rear tower of the Palladium World Shopping mall, near the Indra Hotel.