Before: Pattaya never sleeps! After: Everyone in bed by 11 pm: Resort is dead say Thais

[Spellforce]

16 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

neither should you.  Drinking and driving is for idiots. 

I was talking about the expats who are living in the dark side.

That population was helping the beers bar to survive in the low season and regular/lower the price.

Grab Taxi DONT work after midnight ! There was a time when police close their eyes on those farangs going home after a few beers but that's no more the case.

Those regular customers have gone as the cheap & happy beer bars.... cf. the topic, Pattaya now looks like a desert after 11PM !

 

But you have still the option of the gogo bars... who have raised their price X2 X3 ... because they only target the tourists !

[dallen52]

Just now, Singh sahib said:

But luckily I spend 10 thousand baht per day and I saw many white people spend 200 baht per day lol

2 posts in 2 minutes. 

Well done. 

Now you have 5.

[ChipButty]

I got to admit even 20 years ago Pattaya was a Rancid place but it worked was always busy I think now it's finished lots of local people will be suffering 

[kingofthemountain]

18 minutes ago, Stevemercer said:

Maybe they should allow legal casinos just in Pattaya - that would give the old town a boost, put it back on the tourist map, and bring back the buzz.

I am pretty sure since the beginning it's the project 

they just wait the things go so badly then they can present it as the only option available

[yogi100]

4 minutes ago, Singh sahib said:

But luckily.i speand 10k baht per day I was alone there lol so 

Of course you were alone there. None of your compatriots would even contemplate spending 10K baht in a month let alone in a day.

 

Just like you truth be known.

[Singh sahib]

2 hours ago, Isaanbiker said:

Few are buying anything, red light areas are quiet as the grave, hotels won't lower their prices and one poster even spoke of being afraid of ghosts, it was that quiet.

 

I'm certain IF there were some good looking prostitutes, there'd be many people. Or Ping Pong ball shooting gals...

 

  But Pattaya doesn't have prostitutes regarding the government.

 Change the fee for having a girl for 24 hours back to 500 baht, change some immigration laws, perhaps look for a new rule, stop the thousands of Indians and Chinese Triads and foreigners might come back.

 

  Too many laws and regulations have made the country a place where you don't have to fly a long time just to find out that they might not let you in. 

 

 All the Russians, Chinese, and Indians aren't what I'd want to meet on a holiday, to be honest.

 

And the Muslim areas do not really make the place to a better one. 

 

 

 

 

 

  

Tell to the Thai govt stop Indians Chinese and Russian to enter in Thailand then you will see Pattaya will be graveyard of Thai people 

[Homburg]

1 minute ago, Guderian said:

How can this be possible when TAT just upgraded their forecast for visitors this year to 85 million? Clearly, these pictures showing nobody in Pattaya must be photoshopped! Stop press, the tourism ministry has just announced that arrivals in 2019 are now expected to be over 90 million.

How Thailand gets its arrival numbers:  I was on a TG flight from UK.  The lady in the adjoining seat was booked on TG through to Australia & was changing planes in Swampy. Her bags were checked through to Oz and she had her boarding card for the connecting flight, but she had been told (by TG) that she had to pass through immigration at Swampy, so she counted as a tourist arrival, even though she was only a transit passenger. 

[mindfulness]

sum nam na ! greed, greed, greed eventually catches up. 

 

Doesn’t help when government won’t allow tourist to party no more. 12 pm closing alcohol sales ! idiots ! tourists aren’t going now where it’s cheaper and more welcomed to drink until the dawn breaks. 

 

Not the mention the extortion racket still going on by the police for making the road traffic incident solely the farangs fault because they won’t be extorted. 

 

again SUM NAM NA !! 

 

enjoy those Chinese and Indians Good Luck ! 

[kingofthemountain]

12 minutes ago, Singh sahib said:

But luckily I spend 10 thousand baht per day and I saw many white people spend 200 baht per day lol

You spend 1500 for your room and you stay alone during 21 days, so no girls involved.

(Subsidiary question you come in Pattaya for the beach or for the temples?)

i wonder where go the other 8500 bhts everyday? Food, shopping? It's a lot of money imo

 

Edited November 29, 2019 by kingofthemountain

[dallen52]

2 minutes ago, Singh sahib said:

Must answer of some people who behave like racist here just grow up

You have gone about it the wrong way....

Welcome to TVF..

No tea and sympathy here.

[Duck J Butters]

“one of Thailand's premier seaside resorts”
HahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahaga Pattaya premiere? Pattaya is a dump. I wouldn’t set foot in Pattaya in a million years. Why on Earth would anyone ever go to Pattaya? It’s a literal haven for white trash. I’ve been living in Thailand for 5 years. I went to Pattaya once and my wife and I were literally laughing at the 1000+ prostitutes lined up along the beach. It is truly shocking to me that any respectable foreigner would live in Pattaya when you have Phuket?? Phuket is where it’s at. Good riddens to Pattaya, I will be rejoicing when this dumpster den collapses. Folks, Phuket is the only legit place to live in Thailand ( not Patong ). Laguna, Kamala, and Naithon Beach. Even Patong is still like 10 steps up from Pattaya. Premier Resort in Pattaya?? Gahahagahahwgagagagagagagaagaaggaagagagahag. 

[transam]

1 minute ago, Duck J Butters said:

“one of Thailand's premier seaside resorts”
HahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahaga Pattaya premiere? Pattaya is a dump. I wouldn’t set foot in Pattaya in a million years. Why on Earth would anyone ever go to Pattaya? It’s a literal haven for white trash. I’ve been living in Thailand for 5 years. I went to Pattaya once and my wife and I were literally laughing at the 1000+ prostitutes lined up along the beach. It is truly shocking to me that any respectable foreigner would live in Pattaya when you have Phuket?? Phuket is where it’s at. Good riddens to Pattaya, I will be rejoicing when this dumpster den collapses. Folks, Phuket is the only legit place to live in Thailand ( not Patong ). Laguna, Kamala, and Naithon Beach. Even Patong is still like 10 steps up from Pattaya. Premier Resort in Pattaya?? Gahahagahahwgagagagagagagaagaaggaagagagahag. 

That reads like you don't even live here...............????

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, robertson468 said:

Have the Thai Authorities not realised that both China and India are having fiscal problems.  GDP down, employment down, prices up........and Thai Authorities expect the Indians and Chinese to come in their droves changing their money for rediculously high baht.  Pattaya, Phuket and Samui are all having problems with the drop in the number of tourists, but it is the small man (woman) who is suffering from the down turn the most and the powers that be seem to be in complete denial.

Billions upon billions can make it easy to live within a state of denial!

[WalkingOrders]

3 hours ago, hyku1147 said:

Pattaya was the Las Vegas of South East Asia.

Lord almighty, can you imagine if they allowed casino's in Pattaya? Think of the revenue that would bring in.

[kingofthemountain]

7 minutes ago, Duck J Butters said:

I went to Pattaya once and my wife and I were literally laughing at the 1000+ prostitutes lined up along the beach.

Unfortunately you are wrong here

they are only some hundreds of them

still a suffisant choice and some bargains however

but you need to comeback without your wife, you should be more at ease

Edited November 29, 2019 by kingofthemountain

[maechanman]

43 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

Not only the high baht, the lack of choice, the Thai hostesses these days want higher prices than the West and want to be in and out as fast as possible doing as little for the money as they can.

 

All these things taken into account, and there are better value places to go now on the radar such as Vietnam and Cambodia. Many on here used to scoff at that but now it has become a reality. Vietnam has well and truly got its act together and Cambodia for all its warts, is better bang for your buck than Thailand in terms of entertainment areas, food, hotels and drink and cigarettes etc

 

It was always Western tourists that spent in the bars and restaurants and go go places, never the Chinese or Indians or other nationalities.

 

Prayut and co are trying to make people believe Pattaya is something that it most certainly is not.......a high classy resort!

 

Yes it has the shopping malls and designer shops, but it has filthy streets and beaches, a dangerous city to walk into the wrong area,  motorcycle street gangs, groups of thieving ladyboys, armed teenagers and a police force that resembles the Keystone cops!

Hey no insulting the Keystone cops now.

[moe666]

3 hours ago, metempsychotic said:

 

while the government have surely dropped the ball, people are travelling less for "smut" either way.

 

Millenials are <deleted> each other and the incels that would be all over it are afraid or unable to travel to foreign shores.

those that have traditionally flocked to pattaya are ageing fast. 

i have seen an increase this year of friends and friends of friends traveling this way. they are coming for islands like koh phangan, or doing wakepark tours of bkk and phuket. they are all 30-45 and are travelling for lifestyle and activities now and pattaya is not on the radar. 

they want proper massages, good food, beaches, sunsets, hikes etc. 

A good night out involves proper music, cocktails and dinner. Many are vegan, but all are willing to spend on food. the bars may be a curiosity but certainly not a priority. 

 

10 years ago, people i know might have had a few days in pattaya on the itinerary, but I cant think of a single visitor through my doors that has had plans to go to pattaya for something other than business in the last 5+ years 

many things have changed. Pattaya really hasnt.

 

Agree with you 100 percent, there was a good article about why Cook went under and what you describe is exactlly what the writer wrote about Cook. Cook became stuck in offering a certain type of tour geared to booze and hanging around a pool but the travellers now want what you describe, yes we will drink but where we want to. People change and along with it there wants and rejections change

[kingofthemountain]

9 minutes ago, Singh sahib said:

Girls involved also and lot of other things you want know ?? Jealous ass

Jealous me? 0 chance

''girls involved also a lot of other things''

by other things do you mean you have tasted the charms of the LB?

Edited November 29, 2019 by kingofthemountain

[Garbol56]

26 minutes ago, dallen52 said:

2 posts in 2 minutes. 

Well done. 

Now you have 

Charlies.????

Edited November 29, 2019 by Garbol56
Wrong post

[Parsve]

So maybe Sri Racha could be the next big tourist hub, selling tourist bus travel to the nearby filthy ghost town Pattaya. Warning sign over the door, inside bus. Do not go out of the bus during the tour. Rats, ghost ladyboys or ghost begger can kill you.

[kevin612]

It is no longer affordable.

[SunsetT]

1 hour ago, Somnambulist said:

Hong Kong hotel rooms are deeply discounted at the moment, I hear.  And if you are not looking for trouble you can make your way around town.  Pattaya hotel operators could learn a lesson here.  

What? By going out on the street and starting a riot.....lol.

[natway09]

It's what I always said, ,,,,,,if not in bed by 11pm go home to your hotel

[murraynz]

3 hours ago, smedly said:

although I highly respect most of your posts and find them to be a good read - you are way off with this one.

 

Having lived here a very long time I see no evidence of changes of the type you are suggesting.

 

 

What has happened however are three fold

 

- Thailand has become very expensive mostly down to the strength of the baht, people I know that came here on a regular basis are no longer coming.

 

- the authorities decided to treat western tourists with contempt, they are making it harder and harder for tourists from the west to travel and stay here, so why are they doing this - to my 3rd point

 

- they have foolishly overestimated the value that tourists from places like India and China bring here, there may be big numbers arriving but what are they doing when they get here - certainly not spending money because they generally don't have much, I see Indians wondering about in groups just looking, they may spend some time in hanging in massage joints looking for cheap relief but that is about the height of it

 

 

Thai authorities think that big numbers translate to big revenue - well it doesn't, they have alienated the big spenders who are now going elsewhere - to places were they fell welcomed and treated properly

well written, once again ,NOT  comments made by somebody, who seldom, if ever, visits Pattay...

i was at walking street last night, like always, looks like lots of people....but walking up and down the road---is NOT 'spending money'.

the bars were actually very empty.. at one stage, i was the only customer, in normaly busy gogo bar..

cosy beach seems to be quite busy, mostly russian people..

 

[SunsetT]

1 hour ago, Cake Monster said:

A credible Government and Local Authority in this kind of scenario, would now be thinking " Now is the time to inject huge amounts of Money Etc into Pattaya in order to bring it into the present time.

Pattaya is stale, to say the least. It has been on a downturn in many ways for 5 years or more now.

The City is covered in nothing but Concrete, there are no Green spaces, the Infrastructure is at best shoddy, and its controlled mainly by Criminal Gangs.

Time for a  radical rethink on what is Pattaya, and what is needed from the City going into the future.

Or, is it not even worth the effort and expense of saving ?

 

 

Soon to be swamped by Climate Change storms anyway.

[leosurin]

4 hours ago, ThreeEyedRaven said:

I recently got pulled over by the cops for one of their routine collect money stops, and while I had everything, I heard more than one tourist moaning loudly that they were paying out money for the stops that were "everywhere" every single day, and would never be coming back. Fair enough, they didn't have the right documents, but I have never been to a tourist resort that so actively looks to fleece their guests in such a way. Combine this with the murder of the town as it used to be and is it any surprise that the place is a ghost town?

Police have to pay big money to get a job in Chon Buri province,guess where they are looking for money now when no body around!?

[murraynz]

15 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:

Lord almighty, can you imagine if they allowed casino's in Pattaya? Think of the revenue that would bring in.

it would bring huge wealth to the area..but i think the authorites know that thai people are "problem gamblers"...

[SteveK]

So Chiang Mai is officially dead, but that's no surprise, after seeing a few temples it's quite a boring place. I certainly won't be going back there.

 

Now they've killed off the major draw of Pattaya, and it seems like nobody wants to go there anymore.

 

Which place are they going to destroy next? Phuket? Samui?

 

It's going to take some smart and drastic moves to reverse this seemingly unstoppable decline.

Edited November 29, 2019 by SteveK

[Mac98]

4 hours ago, metempsychotic said:

 

while the government have surely dropped the ball, people are travelling less for "smut" either way.

 

Millenials are <deleted> each other and the incels that would be all over it are afraid or unable to travel to foreign shores.

those that have traditionally flocked to pattaya are ageing fast. 

i have seen an increase this year of friends and friends of friends traveling this way. they are coming for islands like koh phangan, or doing wakepark tours of bkk and phuket. they are all 30-45 and are travelling for lifestyle and activities now and pattaya is not on the radar. 

they want proper massages, good food, beaches, sunsets, hikes etc. 

A good night out involves proper music, cocktails and dinner. Many are vegan, but all are willing to spend on food. the bars may be a curiosity but certainly not a priority. 

 

10 years ago, people i know might have had a few days in pattaya on the itinerary, but I cant think of a single visitor through my doors that has had plans to go to pattaya for something other than business in the last 5+ years 

many things have changed. Pattaya really hasnt.

 

The tourists you describe are likely 'one and done', looking for the next tofu and bicycle city on their list. The nighttime fun tourists that formally booked Pattaya were happy to return every year. They wanted something different from cookie cutter resort cities around the globe. Pattaya had that. 

[meechai]

It is like the time the two hippies ran out of acid at a grateful dead concert.

One looked at the other & said ....These guys really suck ????

 

It is the same here in Thailand the mirage has just wore right off.

 

All the Junta mess, All the bad press of needless deaths daily on the roads, All the bad press of tourist getting injured or killed in various ways, All the stories of fleecing by bad cops, bad market sellers, bad taxi/tuktuk drivers. Prices not so low anymore take your pick.

 

The acid/mirage has just plain wore off & reality has set in & folks have just said....This place just kinda sucks ????

 

Folks like my wife & I yes we come yearly but we have family to visit & live quietly in the country.

But as a tourist destination? I cannot imagine why anyone would given the many other choices in today's world

Edited November 29, 2019 by meechai