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Thailand finds fourth China coronavirus infection

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4 minutes ago, moutamine said:

We are all doomed... The Asian virus will wipe out humanity!!  4 Dead so far... the yearly influenza kills thousands each year, pollution kills more each year, Donald Trump kills more each year...

All it needs to do is to start going viral. I don't think this one has the capability to wipe us out though, it's too slow and not deadly enough. Need to wait for the next Chinese wet market to start spreading something more potent. Shouldn't take too long.

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  • What is going to happen when hordes of Chinese people descend on Thailand for their Golden Week holidays? Will you be able to detect the patients as soon as they arrive??

  • How about transmission on the flights (in a full aircraft)?  How long after one is exposed do the symptoms appear and is it an airborne virus?  Still many unanswered questions.

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    Tounge Thaied

    Can we remain positive on this please. The Coronavirus is spread like "colds" and "flus" by coughing, sneezing, and general close contact. It's when any particular strain has a high "virulence" factor

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Come come we give you very big spending people free visas. 

Just reading this topic, I'm starting to get symptoms.

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand has quarantined a fourth patient with the new coronavirus including one Thai national,

But let all the other passengers walk away without taking details.

If the incubation period is a few days those passengers could be nationwide spreading the disease?

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2 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

Great and I just got off an airplane today loaded to the gills with Chinese coughing and sneezing.

In two weeks time you'll know. Until then, self quarantine is recommended. Order pizza.

1 minute ago, DrTuner said:

In two weeks time you'll know. Until then, self quarantine is recommended. Order pizza.

Until the pizza delivery guy sneezes.

This Virus can be transmitted by Human contact.

Just dont Hug too many Chinese Tourists. This will reduce your chances of becoming infected.

4 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

In two weeks time you'll know. Until then, self quarantine is recommended. Order pizza.

Yeah maybe. Also need to self medicate.

3 minutes ago, zydeco said:

Until the pizza delivery guy sneezes.

Which reminds me .. time to check the apocalypse canned supplies in the pantry. Stock up, people.

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Simple solution... stop all Chinese from coming to Thailand! Make it like it used to be years ago....

And I read that up to 30,000 Chinese are expected on Koh Samui for Chinese New Year one things for sure I will be staying indoors u TIL they all go back home.

53 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

No crapping in the street

Or gobbing on the floors of shopping malls..

They are a bunch of frilly suckers as Benny would say.

Can this coronavirus be spread through hand to body contact, for example, from getting a massage?

 

Asking for a friend.

It appears to impact those with a weak or compromised immune system. So if your ill or getting on in years not a bad idea to wear a mask in crowded areas. Doesn’t appear to be as bad as it’s predecessors but that can change over time.

13 minutes ago, Yadon Toploy said:

Can this coronavirus be spread through hand to body contact, for example, from getting a massage?

 

Asking for a friend.

Important question to avoid an unhappy ending!

Well I’m going to Isaan and hide in the jungle til this subsides

I live in Bangkok so it will be a nervous return.  If I was a tourist with a booking I’d check out if a refund based on this was available... and if I was planning on a trip to Thailand I’d now consider a place with zero risk like Greece or the like... a 1% risk is a risk...

2 hours ago, HuaHinHim said:

I came in Suvarhnabumi 2 days ago, some time after this virus was in the news. Immigration was quite full, although not as full as I’ve seen it, but there were a lot of Chinese group tours in immigration and I didn’t see any cameras checking passengers temperature like past incidences anywhere in the airport.

Hopefully they will take it serious when a couple of immigration officers catch the flu.

I’m appalled and shocked Thailand’s health minister has not sought council and stopped flights from China arriving into Thailand. Simple solution Chinese passengers must be screened in China before leaving .... it’s like that old adage they’ve left it’s not our problem anymore,.whereas Thailand’s only concern seems money. I’m worried as arriving next month and my only concern is making sure I’ve got the right health cover. Worrying times indeed because if nothing is done then we could have a epidemic on our hands... 

1 minute ago, Steve Vincent said:

I’m appalled and shocked Thailand’s health minister has not sought council and stopped flights from China arriving into Thailand. Simple solution Chinese passengers must be screened in China before leaving .... it’s like that old adage they’ve left it’s not our problem anymore,.whereas Thailand’s only concern seems money. I’m worried as arriving next month and my only concern is making sure I’ve got the right health cover. Worrying times indeed because if nothing is done then we could have a epidemic on our hands... 

Everyone will have to simply take their own personal protective measures. You are reasonably protected if you are healthy and not otherwise immunocompromised in any way. At this time there is no pandemic, there is no epidemic. If you are traveling today, take simple precautions and unless you are flying in on a plane from China you are at a very low risk of coming into contact with this particular coronavirus.... time will tell how virulent this strain is.

The Coronavirus is spread like "colds" and "flus" by coughing, sneezing, and general close contact. It's when any particular strain has a high "virulence" factor that makes infection a more serious issue. Most colds and flus are easily managed by the individuals own immune system. But... should a strain have a high virulence factor, disease and symptoms of the virus become more intolerable and widespread. Everyone should take precautions, especially when in closed/close contact with others that are presenting with symptoms (cough, sneezing, malaise, fatigue, aches, fever). Your best defense it to foster a strong immune system (through good health practices) and to employ barrier devices. An "N95" particulate filtration mask (aka hepa filtration), regular hand washings, sanitizers, basic hygiene, and general avoidance of others with symptoms. 


https://www.who.int/csr/don/05-january-2020-pneumonia-of-unkown-cause-china/en/

The Chinese government is allowing the virus to spread and even their hospitals are unable to diagnose the virus in an infected person. Here is an excerpt from WHO website.

 

The case-patient had developed fever, chill, and muscle pain on 18 January while in Wuhan. She visited a local hospital in Wuhan and was initially diagnosed with a cold. On 19 January , the case-patient was detected with fever (38.3 °C) upon arrival at the Incheon International Airport.

 

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40 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Hopefully they will take it serious when a couple of immigration officers catch the flu.

Thais come to work even when it's obvious they are sick and contagious. That IO will proceed to infect hundreds.

 

EDIT: Oh, and the beloved fingerprint biometrics with 1" layer of snot on the glass. 

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1 hour ago, Tounge Thaied said:

Could you post some evidence of this? I believe you, just need some source material if you have it. 

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the government numbers are definitely suspicious, especially the sudden jump over the weekend. For days authorities kept the figure of infected people at 41; then, it suddenly jumped up this weekend, eventually reaching 218. As of Wednesday evening, the number is now over 400. Foreign doctors estimated last week the number might be as high as 1,700 

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/20/virus-china-coverup-government-how-scared-should-you-be-of-the-wuhan-coronavirus/

 

Also plenty of suspicion from the South China Morning Post:

 

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3046984/china-warns-cadres-cover-spread-virus-and-be-nailed-pillar

 

This stems back to how the SARS outbreak was handled back in 2003 when there was a blatant cover-up.

4 hours ago, Topdoc said:

What is going to happen when hordes of Chinese people descend on Thailand for their Golden Week holidays? Will you be able to detect the patients as soon as they arrive??

"Will you be able to detect the patients as soon as they arrive??"

Of course not. How is that possible?If some is coughing he/she will probably be detained. This is exactly what happened with the SARS breakout many years ago. A lot of people in masks at the airport checking people. I don't remember if we had to fill in a form at the airport. 

3 hours ago, Assurancetourix said:

We are going to be made a whole ramdam for 4 dead because of an evil thing which wanders and comes from China;

but 25,000 road deaths, a number that will increase rapidly if the speed limit of 90 km / h is increased to 120 per hour ..;
there, no, it's normal;
Move along, there's nothing to see ...

Well, but in an accident you will have a visible culprit whereas here the culprit is invisible.

Therefore people feel uneasy. 

Another gift that keeps on giving from General Prayut’s and TAT’s favorite foreigners...

I just bought 20pcs of N95 masks from 3M shop in lazada. "2 items left". Some lucky one will be the last winner. Others, well, I might sell one for 1M baht when the <deleted> hits the fan.

4 hours ago, moutamine said:

We are all doomed... The Asian virus will wipe out humanity!!  4 Dead so far... the yearly influenza kills thousands each year, pollution kills more each year, Donald Trump kills more each year...

While the numbers are very low and pale in comparison to people dying in road accidents and from the regular flu, the mortality rate is fairly high at 2.5%. 

 

The flu pandemic of 1918 which killed about the same number as four years of WW1 also had a 2.5% rate of being fatal.

 

So, the potential of this virus creating major problems is there. Maybe better to take precautions now and not when there are millions of infected people 

3 hours ago, DrTuner said:

Thais come to work even when it's obvious they are sick and contagious. 

So do Americans - especially food servers in restaurants, retail clerks and hospitality workers. Main reason - no paid sick leave, big part of compensation in tips or commissions, so people can't afford to stay home

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