Thailand confirms fifth case of new coronavirus

[GroveHillWanderer]

2 hours ago, falankuk said:

Any form of viral influenza can be transmitted during the incubation phase so it apply for this virus too.

Possibly - but this is not a form of influenza. Coronaviruses belong to a totally different family of viruses. The common cold is a coronavirus but flu is not.

[Isaan sailor]

They should return the Chinese hoards immediately.

[Gecko123]

Ah Choo is sneezing a lot. Should I be worried?

 

Edited January 25, 2020 by Gecko123

[metisdead]

An offensive troll post and a reply has been removed. 

[galenjones]

17 hours ago, DrTuner said:

So she was out and about two days before checking in. It's likely there are hundreds like her walking about. Infrared scanners at airports are useless when the incubation time is two weeks. 

It is not quite useless. At least infected people can be found who obviously have syptoms of the disease. (acute phase)

[dcnx]

1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

not a bad idea,... what about the ones already here

All international and domestic group tours have been canceled and new tickets are not being sold in China. Individual travel is still permitted.

[galenjones]

17 hours ago, DrTuner said:

So she was out and about two days before checking in. It's likely there are hundreds like her walking about. Infrared scanners at airports are useless when the incubation time is two weeks. 

Airport fingerprint scanners can be very dangerous when it comes to disease transmission in general. I recommend every traveler to wash their hands intensively afterwards.

[White Christmas13]

1 hour ago, thasoss said:

Odd how all these viruses originate in china

 

 

[SteveK]

1 hour ago, thasoss said:

Odd how all these viruses originate in china

They have zero hygiene. Have you ever used a public lavatory in China? I would advise taking out a heavy-duty insurance policy before doing so.

 

 

[Jane Dough]

8 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

Scary stuff, especially with Chinese New Year now

Really? I'd focus on what is far more important - like chewing your food well, making sure your hands are dry when touching electrical stuff, taking care on stairs and looking when crossing the road. 

 

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[thisisrascal]

51 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

They should return the Chinese hoards immediately.

They've been doing that in the Philippines.

[SteveK]

5 minutes ago, thisisrascal said:

They've been doing that in the Philippines.

Amazing:

 

 

 

Edited January 25, 2020 by SteveK

[thisisrascal]

7 minutes ago, SteveK said:

Amazing:

 

 

 

Imagine a government that puts the health of its people ahead of $$$. What a crazy idea, it'll never catch on.

[dcnx]

Given the incubation period and that Thailand is currently full of Chinese, it’s going to get a lot worse.

 

Despite China locking down 5 cities now, those infected would have already left before the lock down.

 

Let’s revisit this thread in two weeks.

 

 

[keithkarmann]

9 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

Scary stuff, especially with Chinese New Year now

Cancelled our trip to Chiang Mai for the Chinese New Year, not worth risking with all those Chinese people spitting every where, will stay within the confines of our lost village.

[Lacrimas]

2 hours ago, URMySunshine said:

If you have nothing good to say isn't it better to say nothing ?

I could say the same about your post. It is totally unrelated to the conversation. Why do you think China has something good to offer to the world besides nasty viruses, awful tourists and cheap products that are killing countries economies?

[Elkski]

This  wuhan virus looks real bad.  I admit I've wasted my day reading all I can about the wuhan virus.  I'm afraid it is worse than being reported.  Some doctors on the ground estimate 90,000 cases in wuhan.  It is asymptomatic  meaning can be transmitted  without showing symptoms.   Incubation  2-7 days but some people not really getting severe case.   It was not contained because govt tried to keep lid on this.  Many  people trying to warn on social media about a sars like virus were arrested Jan 1.  Google this. A

Harvard epidemiologist   early thoughts. 

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1220919589623803905.html

 

UK researcher predicts 250,000 cases in 10 days. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uk-researcher-predicts-over-250000-people-china-will-have-coronavirus-ten-days

 

If you have twitter this Chinese American  reporter has some believable shocking posts. @jenniferatntd

 

Sad news points:  it was unreported  for so long so it's hard to predict things.  

It appears to be airborne transmission.  But definitely human to human at this point.  

Some otherwise healthy  middle aged people have died.  

I person infected 14 others so there are supershedders which was the main  problem in sars And Ebola.  

Lockdown happened to late with 

Timing of major travel of chinese spring NYear is worst possible  timing. and many traveled early in the week. Going home to others countries.  I met two such gents on my jan 21 flight from Shanghai to Seattle.  

Some estimates are this will run its first wave into March.  

I'm conerned.  Washing hands is best defense. 

Another bad thing is its flu season so its typical to get under reporting since the symptoms are so similar until respiratory troubles. 

Similar to my flu cough, fever ache muscles  and fatigue on Jan  3 after  my arrival  Dec 26.  Good thing I didnt hear about this then or I would have been panicking.  I feel fine other than jet lag and post  trip depression, blue balls and haven't seen the sun yet and 7 c for high. 

I'm not in the medical field so do your own reading.  I suggest hunkering down  of your in thailand but mainly China next 10 days to see developments.  Thailand does have the most cases of any country so far.  

 

On the plus side the virus genome has been mapped and shared so positive identification can be made. 

It does seem bat based not snake as some researchers claimed and published.  Not that it matters but i learned bat soup is a thing in china.  Google at your own risk to find the pretty"s YouTube.  

Edited January 25, 2020 by Elkski

[DrTuner]

3 minutes ago, Elkski said:

 It was not contained because govt tried tu o keep lid on this.  Mamy  people trying to warn on social media about a sars like virus were arrested Jan 1. 

Ain't communism grand.

[RJRS1301]

6 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

It was not contained because govt tried tu o keep lid on this.  Mamy  people trying to warn on social media about a sars like virus were arrested Jan 1. 

Not dissimilair to what occurred during H1N1 outbreak several years ago.

Not even all "open societies" reported the real extent of that one.

 

[DrTuner]

11 minutes ago, Elkski said:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1220919589623803905.html

Urgh. Now all it needs is a high mortality rate and we're up for a major culling. 

 

Netflix is on the ball .. the new series 'Pandemic' https://www.netflix.com/title/81026143 is well worth watching.

[HHTel]

2 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Possibly - but this is not a form of influenza. Coronaviruses belong to a totally different family of viruses. The common cold is a coronavirus but flu is not.

A coronavirus is usually confined to animals but occasionally makes the jump to humans.  SARS and MERS is a coronavirus.

 

The Common Cold is not a coronavirus only one of the symptoms associated with one.

Edited January 25, 2020 by HHTel
correction

[HHTel]

2 hours ago, galenjones said:

Airport fingerprint scanners can be very dangerous when it comes to disease transmission in general. I recommend every traveler to wash their hands intensively afterwards.

Well spotted.  The virus can be transmitted from a surface that has been touched by an infected person.

[HHTel]

3 hours ago, thasoss said:

Odd how all these viruses originate in china

 

Not really.  SARS was caused by eating meat from wild animal markets.  After SARS there was a massive drop in this illegal trade.  However, the business has picked up again and this virus has been identified as coming either from snakes or bats.

Where else in the world do you find such eating habits but China?

[overherebc]

6 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Nostradamus would have known about this so it can't be that bad, he doesn't mention corona anywhere ????

Didn't know hhe was a beer drinker!!!  I learn somthing every day. ????????

[HHTel]

30 minutes ago, Elkski said:

This  wuhan virus looks real bad.  I admit I've wasted my day reading all I can about the wuhan virus.  I'm afraid it is worse than being reported.  Some doctors on the ground estimate 90,000 cases in wuhan.  It is asymptomatic  meaning can be transmitted  without showing symptoms.   Incubation  2-7 days but some people not really getting severe case.

Actually, reporting so far indicates that this is nowhere near the severity of SARS.  The symptoms are much milder and most recover of their own accord.  The death rate is currently reported at less than 3% and expected to settle around 2%.  The fatality rate for SARS was, according to sources, around 14%. 

Deaths are caused by related diseases such as pneumonia which is often fatal in elderly people.

[Somtamnication]

Well, once we have a 9th. confirmed case, the TAT can celebrate and create a auspicious marketing campaign with the number 9!

[Tounge Thaied]

6 hours ago, Bundooman said:

On top of all the confusion, I just read in the news that two women have been identified in France with the virus.

One of them, returning from Wusan appears to have deliberately taken a drug to suppress her symptoms and avoid detection at the airport.

How would you know what drug to take?

How many others have done the same thing?

Where are they?

Coronavirus presents with common cold and flu symptoms, cough, sneezing, running nose, aches, fever. So a simple multi-symptom medicine with cough/sneeze suppressent/fever reducer would do the trick. 

[david555]

38 minutes ago, HHTel said:

Well spotted.  The virus can be transmitted from a surface that has been touched by an infected person.

Strange thing I remarked this morning early in Tesco Lotus , at the meat and chicken stand where you have to pick your own quantity … no grips or big metal spoons …. when I asked  they pointed to a new thing … those simple cheap plastic throw away after use  gloves ! This in a time to ban plastic !…, but of course those metal spoons and grips can be the intermediate for a contagion as more people go use them ….. seems measures are dictated from high up ...

[Traubert]

1 hour ago, Elkski said:

This  wuhan virus looks real bad.  I admit I've wasted my day reading all I can about the wuhan virus.  I'm afraid it is worse than being reported.  Some doctors on the ground estimate 90,000 cases in wuhan.  It is asymptomatic  meaning can be transmitted  without showing symptoms.   Incubation  2-7 days but some people not really getting severe case.   It was not contained because govt tried to keep lid on this.  Many  people trying to warn on social media about a sars like virus were arrested Jan 1.  Google this. A

Harvard epidemiologist   early thoughts. 

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1220919589623803905.html

 

UK researcher predicts 250,000 cases in 10 days. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uk-researcher-predicts-over-250000-people-china-will-have-coronavirus-ten-days

 

If you have twitter this Chinese American  reporter has some believable shocking posts. @jenniferatntd

 

 

Have a dip into British tabloid media mate. They paint a decent doomsday picture and most of them don't have a paywall. Free sensationalism at your fingertips.

 

By the way, 36,000 Americans died of flu related causes last year. In America.

 

Sleep tight.

Edited January 25, 2020 by Traubert
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[Inepto Cracy]

Oh all you folks, here is my observation of the whole bad virus.

I was infected, had it all, fever, runny nose, watering  eyes, bad headache and believe it or not, pneumonia.

Had big needles stuck through my back into my lungs to drain the fluid, vacum pipes in my sinunses   a n d now I am pretty much fine thank yyou

This virus/ bacteria virus is not a joke.

It can even get thriugh a full biohazard suit.

So be afraid, be very afraid.

Any person any place and at any time.