SURVEY: Would you report an overstayer?

[ChipButty]

1 minute ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

I don’t know any on overstay but I have seen a few not wearing masks !!

 

Hmm, decisions decisions !!

Thats easy decision

[mick220675]

I know a US citizen on a 7 year over stay (unable to get a visa after a criminal conviction), he payed corrupt immigration officials to enter Thailand and now pays our local police to ensure he has no visits from immigration. If I was to report him its possible I would have problems with my local police, maybe they would come to me for the loss'ed income.

 

I think living in a country with rampant corruption its best to keep out of other peoples problems and have as little contact with Thai officials as possible.

 

No I would not report any one.

[FarFlungFalang]

The only people I know on overstay in this country is the trictator and his band of merry decievers.I would report them but they have more guns and submarines than I do.

Edited February 10, 2020 by FarFlungFalang

[Assurancetourix]

53 minutes ago, klauskunkel said:

Only if I get a BMW Smart Car!

You are not asking enough expensive!
Request a Bugatti Chiron and while you are there also request Thai nationality; you will no longer have health insurance to show or tedious dossier to assemble each year with an endless wait for immigration.
I say that ... In Sakon Nakhon, it always happens in a good mood and when there is 5 minutes of waiting, it's the end of the world ...

[Trujillo]

I have observed the laws of the countries I have lived in for the past 34 years. Never overstayed even one day. 

 

You are a guest here. Staying is not a right, it is a privilege to be respected. 

 

If I find you overstaying, I will report you. If you don't want to be reported, just follow the laws. I have, most do -- it's easy. 

 

If you think overstaying is okay, I have only one question for you: What part of "illegal" do you not understand? 

[Assurancetourix]

Nearly 30 % of members of this forum who replied  " Yes, but only if I thought they were a danger. " 

 

But who are you ?
police officers ?

immigration officials?
It is not your problem; let the people who are trained and paid to do their job (if they want to do it).

I know that the national sport in Thailand is delation;
this survey unfortunately proves it.

 

[Old Croc]

Questions like this inevitably bring out the imaginary John Lennon theory of "no countries", where people should be free to choose wherever in the world they want to live, without the restrictions of any local laws.

The people who advocate such fantasies rarely think through the consequences of the mass migration, from poor and underdeveloped countries, that would ensue. Often the same people decry the deterioration of their own home country from just partially open borders.

A great theory, that would eventually (in 100's of years) result in a complete melding of the world's population, but at what cost, and what would be the leveling out point? Would academia, science, fascism or religion be the main philosophy? 

 

I live more in the real world, with experience telling me that open borders will not work at this point of world disparity and unrest. (and disease!) Thailand has found that out, as their previous lax attitudes to border jumpers resulted in the country becoming a haven for criminals and other undesirables.

Of course, their attempt to become more in control of who enters and stays is typically chaotic, disjointed and even bigoted.

 

I would report any overstayer who harms me, mine, my bank account or is noticeably harmful to the community at large.

(Unless such action would result in harm to me, mine or my bank account)

 

 

 

 

Edited February 10, 2020 by Old Croc

[IAMHERE]

Only if they chewed gum or made too much noise during sleeping hours. If they owed me money for sure not. Wait Wait , is there a reward ?  Doesn't have to be money; a 3 year permission to stay would be tempting. 

[EricTh]

If he/she overstayed for a few days or one or two weeks, it is probably unintentional so there is no need to report.

 

It's only those who are not overstayers but are working that should be reported. Is that the same number 1178 to report?

 

I once saw a westerner renting out motorbikes in a shop supposedly managed by his girlfriend.

 

[EricTh]

56 minutes ago, mick220675 said:

 

I think living in a country with rampant corruption its best to keep out of other peoples problems and have as little contact with Thai officials as possible.

 

No I would not report any one.

 

Do we need to state our official name to immigration when reporting an overstayer?

 

If he had a criminal conviction in USA, then most probably he will be dangerous someday.

 

If corruption is so rampant, there won't be cases reported on news where they are deported back.

 

Anyway, unless the highest official is also corrupt, one can always report to the highest official where there is corruption.

Edited February 10, 2020 by EricTh

[PremiumLane]

14 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

Questions like this inevitably bring out the imaginary John Lennon theory of "no countries", where people should be free to choose wherever in the world they want to live, without the restrictions of any local laws.

The people who advocate such fantasies rarely think through the consequences of the mass migration, from poor and underdeveloped countries, that would ensue. Often the same people decry the deterioration of their own home country from just partially open borders.

A great theory, that would eventually (in 100's of years) result in a complete melding of the world's population, but at what cost, and what would be the leveling out point? Would academia, science, fascism or religion be the main philosophy? 

 

I live more in the real world, with experience telling me that open borders will not work at this point of world disparity and unrest. (and disease!) Thailand has found that out, as their previous lax attitudes to border jumpers resulted in the country becoming a haven for criminals and other undesirables.

Of course, their attempt to become more in control of who enters and stays is typically chaotic, disjointed and even bigoted.

 

I would report any overstayer who harms me, mine, my bank account or is noticeably harmful to the community at large.

(Unless such action would result in harm to me, mine or my bank account)

 

 

 

 

then maybe we shouldn't have a world where countries are ripped off and made poor then - then we wouldn't have this migrant problem, just a thought ???? 

[Assurancetourix]

4 minutes ago, EricTh said:

I once saw a westerner renting out motorbikes in a shop supposedly managed by his girlfriend.

 

And ? ..

Continue your demonstration ...

Do you want to make yourself useful?

collect plastic bottles and drink cans from the ditches;

clean your country which looks like a pestilential discharge in the open sky ...
or help helpless old people to cross the street when motorized uses ignore traffic lights.
There are a lot of positive things to do in Thailand rather than believing yourself above the Laws, what you do when you want to be a two satangs's vigilante .

[Old Croc]

4 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

then maybe we shouldn't have a world where countries are ripped off and made poor then - then we wouldn't have this migrant problem, just a thought ???? 

I agree. Where do you plan to start?

[rwill]

I would imagine most people on overstay don't go around telling others about it.  I never ask someone either.

[4MyEgo]

Have one in our village, he has overstayed I believe for 4 years now, his wife blew all of his superannuation money by buying 3 bars, gambling and had to flee from Pattaya as she couldn't pay the gambling debts back and could not sell the bars in time, all up 250,000 UK pounds, so I believe the story is. I have never met the bloke, and don't need to.

 

The guy is in his late 60's and lives in his sister-in-laws small house, his wife set up a noodle bar outside to survive on, now if I or my wife reporting him, what would that do, apart from separate him from his wife and more than likely get him sent back to the UK where he has no one, he is not a burden so why even bother, I don't need any brownie points. 

 

Live and let live.

Edited February 10, 2020 by 4MyEgo

[shackleton]

Reminds me on my flight here to Bangkok from London

They put on a different aircraft which meant we were allocated new seating

When we were boarding  the security people came to me and asked if the person next to me if he was my friend and had been been drinking as he was asking the flight attendants for drink

I said to them I dont know the guy I was allocated a seat next to him

It's your job to check him out

Same as police and immigration here 

[mick220675]

11 minutes ago, EricTh said:

 

Do we need to state our official name to immigration when reporting an overstayer?

 

If he had a criminal conviction in USA, then most probably he will be dangerous someday.

 

If corruption is so rampant, there won't be cases reported on news where they are deported back.

 

Anyway, unless the highest official is also corrupt, one can always report to the highest official where there is corruption.

I have never reported any one, but I would not give my name. But things have a habit of coming out in the end, maybe the wife tells some one you phoned.

 

His conviction and prison time was in Thailand (if he is telling the truth it was a set up).

 

Over the years any one hear will have seen endless story's of corruption, its part of life hear. His case was reported when he was deported.

 

Every one is corrupt, especially those at the top. Ten years ago my local Immigration office would openly offer every one the opportunity to buy there extension and many did. Things may have changed on the surface but corruption is a part of life in Thailand. 

[jadee]

I never knew there was a number - 1187 - damn that's so tempting. There are these two young teachers at my condo who routinely joke about having to hide on their school's roof when immigration officials visit. My default philosophy is "live and let live" but these two insist on riding modified bikes with insanely loud exhausts - I'm talking window-rattling, car-alarm-triggeringly-loud exhausts - every morning in 5am. I wish I could forget this number. I don't think I can handle being tempted at this level. 

Edited February 10, 2020 by jadee

[Rookiescot]

1 hour ago, Trujillo said:

I have observed the laws of the countries I have lived in for the past 34 years. Never overstayed even one day. 

 

You are a guest here. Staying is not a right, it is a privilege to be respected. 

 

If I find you overstaying, I will report you. If you don't want to be reported, just follow the laws. I have, most do -- it's easy. 

 

If you think overstaying is okay, I have only one question for you: What part of "illegal" do you not understand? 

You have never broken the speed limit?

Never parked somewhere you should not have?

Never watched something on the internet that you should not be watching?

[Farangwithaplan]

If I ever found out about people who type words or sentences in captials for emphasis had been overstaying, I would seriously consider calling the number.

[ThaiBunny]

Just now, Farangwithaplan said:

If I ever found out about people who type words or sentences in captials for emphasis had been overstaying, I would seriously consider calling the number.

Is there a hotline for reporting people who use prostitutes in Thailand?

[bluesofa]

14 minutes ago, jadee said:

I never knew there was a number - 1187 - damn that's so tempting. There are these two young teachers at my condo who routinely joke about having to hide on their school's roof when immigration officials visit. My default philosophy is "live and let live" but these two insist on riding modified bikes with insanely loud exhausts - I'm talking window-rattling, car-alarm-triggeringly-loud exhausts - every morning in 5am. I wish I could forget this number. I don't think I can handle being tempted at this level. 

You won't get far, even if you're tempted - the number is 1178.

It has been promoted as a number for anyone (Thai/ferang) to contact  immigration for I think nearly twenty years, that's how long it's been in my phone.

It's only in the past year or two it appears to be listed as a snitch-line.

 

Edited February 10, 2020 by bluesofa
misprit

[Isaanbiker]

2 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Immigration likes to make our lives miserable here, why would we help them?

A good question, indeed.

 

   I knew a guy on a long long overstay, but there's no way to report him. His daughter needed him more than anything else. His wife was either on Jaba, or on alc.

 

Now they found a way to go to Europe and didn't encounter any problem. Too many people here play the brain police.

 

  My five baht, clean your own front yard first, please. 

[Metropolitian]

On 2/9/2020 at 1:04 AM, Scott said:

Please select the option which most closely matches your opinion.  

 

'' Yes, but only if I thought they were a danger. '' came closest to my '' Yes, but only if I am SURE they were a danger TO OTHERS. "

[transam]

1 hour ago, Trujillo said:

I have observed the laws of the countries I have lived in for the past 34 years. Never overstayed even one day. 

 

You are a guest here. Staying is not a right, it is a privilege to be respected. 

 

If I find you overstaying, I will report you. If you don't want to be reported, just follow the laws. I have, most do -- it's easy. 

 

If you think overstaying is okay, I have only one question for you: What part of "illegal" do you not understand? 

Goody goody two shoes........????....................????

[Jaxxper]

It’s not really any of my business. However if there was an overstayer that was a danger to others or himself then I would consider it.

Don't really see why people overstay, unless they are trying to disappear or avoid the authorities in their own country or are up to some nefarious deeds here in Thailand. I’m sure everyone has their own story.

[bluesofa]

1 hour ago, Trujillo said:

I have observed the laws of the countries I have lived in for the past 34 years. Never overstayed even one day. 

 

You are a guest here. Staying is not a right, it is a privilege to be respected. 

 

If I find you overstaying, I will report you. If you don't want to be reported, just follow the laws. I have, most do -- it's easy. 

 

If you think overstaying is okay, I have only one question for you: What part of "illegal" do you not understand? 

I understand ill-egal - it's a sick bird isn't it?

 

[CGW]

13 minutes ago, Farangwithaplan said:

If I ever found out about people who type words or sentences in captials for emphasis had been overstaying, I would seriously consider calling the number.

WHY? 

[law ling]

2 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

would never do anything that might bring me in contact with Thai police if not absolutely necessary

I do my immigration/visa/re-entry stuff with the police - and that's it

 

Agreed. I've nothing to hide, but don't want to have the police take an otherwise unnecessary interest in me.

 

So, even if I'm just going upcountry for a few days, I make a point of telling neighbours, my local waitresses and anyone else I know that I'm going for a new visa - I don't want to get on anyone's radar.

[DannyCarlton]

3 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Well, most are not going to admit they are on overstay.

Pattaya is full of them.

Mostly criminals and scammers, bail jumpers.

"I need to stay off the radar" types.

I have met a few and not reported them.  But, maybe I should have the longer I am here the more I dislike this behavior.

A complete pile of nonsense. Evidence?