1 hour ago, Yinn said:

I happy you enjoy yourself. And positive guy.

Is a “real” girlfriend? You date her and she love you? have nature attraction?

 

Or

 

She a sex worker you pay? If someone else pay her she a “girlfriend” with them. Can go with everybody who pay. 

 

Thai people not really think that “boyfriend”. They think that is “customer”.

Is different. 

 

Dating is different than paying.

 

IMO, generally speaking.

 

 

 

 

Most of the guys on this forum have had plenty of experience with "real girlfriends" .

I think they are well aware that the 20 year olds (and up)  may not fit the "normal" definition

of a girlfriend.    In my opinion,  men (as well as women) all have the freedom to decide for themselves what kind of GF they prefer.  

The true love you talk about has led many foreign men to get married ( the traditional concept of "relationship" ) .  Whether in their own country or in Thailand , many men have very bad

outcomes, emotionally and/or  financially as a result of getting married. 

It is very rare that the true love you refer to remains the same and leads to a long and enduring relationship.  Sometimes the fault of the man,  sometimes the woman, sometimes

things just change .  

Once or twice bitten...... sometimes people just decide that there are other types of girlfriends or boyfriends that they prefer to seek.    I do not judge others.....  though i might cringe a bit from time to time

 

If you are a guy at a stage in your life (age doesn’t matter) where late night partying and/or whoring and drinking are of paramount importance in your life, Pattaya undoubtedly ticks all the boxes.  There is nowhere else in Thailand that offers such accessible in-your-face hedonism. For you Pattaya is Heaven on earth.

 

Many here will have experienced the fruits of Pattaya at one time or another and so I think we nearly all recognize what the OP is saying.

 

However, most (but not all) expats grow beyond that stage after a while and some appreciate quite different aspects of life in Thailand rather more.  For them Pattaya is just Sodom-On-Sea.

 

Each to their own. But Pattaya is most definitely not ‘the best place in Thailand’ for the majority who live here.

Pattaya edgy???? I personally think Pattaya has been boring for years 

Been here 36 years...never a dull moment. 

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The Pattaya of 2o/25/30 years ago, I probably would have agreed with you :It was still farang town back then:no hordes of Chinese, Indians Russians. The 'eye candy' of a higher quality. You didn't have to bike 20km to feel like you are out of the city and in the countryside. No massive traffic jams to match Bangkok on weekends. Beach road had  plenty of benches to sit and meet, teeming with attractive 'ladies', day and night.

That said, it probably is still better and definitely much cheaper than Bangkok, Phuket or Hua Hin and more exciting than Isan or Northern Thailand. (Phuket is okay during the rainy season when prices are similar to Pattaya, but skyrocket over the high season, while Hua Hin is outrageous year round.) 

Girls, golf, inexpensive housing, modern malls, food options, geez etc. etc.

Like others, this place is the only reason I am here.

It is called working for 35 years and now enjoying life.

Sad some cannot grasp the concept.

51 minutes ago, Antonymous said:

If you are a guy at a stage in your life (age doesn’t matter) where late night partying and/or whoring and drinking are of paramount importance in your life, Pattaya undoubtedly ticks all the boxes.  There is nowhere else in Thailand that offers such accessible in-your-face hedonism. For you Pattaya is Heaven on earth.

 

Many here will have experienced the fruits of Pattaya at one time or another and so I think we nearly all recognize what the OP is saying.

 

However, most (but not all) expats grow beyond that stage after a while and some appreciate quite different aspects of life in Thailand rather more.  For them Pattaya is just Sodom-On-Sea.

 

Each to their own. But Pattaya is most definitely not ‘the best place in Thailand’ for the majority who live here.

Just Sodom-On-Sea? Just? With a name like that, why would you want to live anywhere else? ????

Life is never boring in Pattaya. Always lots to do, day and night. 

Easy access to BKK. 

Reasonable pricing. 

Wide variety of restaurants. 

Good supermarkets as no shopping malls. 

Easy cheap transport. 24/7

We don't all live in the midst of noisy sexy bars, but can visit easily from neighbouring areas.

Too many people condem the place without even knowing it.. 

I like Pattaya as well.

It seems like "respectable people" don't like Pattaya and never go there.

Makes me think of Marlena Dietrich in the movie Shanghai Express :

"Don't you find respectable people terribly... dull?"

 

6 hours ago, flyingsaucersarereal said:

You come to Pattaya to get a fat beer gut and have a 20 year old girlfriend! AMEN 

We laugh at that stereotype but actually Pattaya has quite a few gyms around and conveniently located, too. Many of our members don't like to think about that, however. ???? Lot of fit guys in Pattaya and more now that the Russians are back. Some of those women are in great shape and add to the Pattaya visuals. The Chinese also defy the usual stereotype of course. We have other stereotypes for them.

 

 

Not many gyms in the weeds of Jomtien, however, so it's about like Hua Hin. 

Thailands ‘Benidorm’

3 hours ago, Yinn said:

6 hours ago, flyingsaucersarereal said:

You come to Pattaya to get a fat beer gut and have a 20 year old girlfriend! AMEN 

I happy you enjoy yourself. And positive guy.

Is a “real” girlfriend? You date her and she love you? have nature attraction?

 

Or

 

She a sex worker you pay? If someone else pay her she a “girlfriend” with them. Can go with everybody who pay. 

 

Thai people not really think that “boyfriend”. They think that is “customer”.

Is different. 

 

Dating is different than paying.

 

IMO, generally speaking.

You might want to give this thread a pass Ms. Yinn.  Because it may be hard for a woman to understand that there are a lot of guys who really prefer to pay and be with many different young women, than be stuck with one woman their own age...even if it's "love."  If a 60 yr old guy wants to be with a 20 yr old hottie, he knows that he will have to pay.  But then what else is he going to spend his money on?  It's money well spent.   

14 minutes ago, androokery said:

However, most (but not all) expats grow beyond that stage after a while and some appreciate quite different aspects of life in Thailand rather more.

Pattaya encompasses all the different aspects of life in Thailand within its large boundaries, and so one can still progress to various stages there right on up to the crematorium stage, all without having to move very far. Nor is one restricted from enjoying the occasional holiday outside of Pattaya should one choose, the more enjoyable for knowing you'll be returning home before long. ????

26 minutes ago, murraynz said:

Too many people condem the place without even knowing it.. 

Seconded! I was talking to someone recently who was telling me how terrible it was, turned out he had never been there!

Meanwhile on the darkside life goes on..........................

3 hours ago, essox essox said:

UTP IS NOT 30 MINS AWAY FROM PATTS, NO WAY 

Errr...Yes it is. When the new motorway opens (allegedly May) it will be less.

Pattaya is a dump but that is the charm for some (even me sometimes as I don't live there and nice knowing I leave).  Its kind of like Cabo San Lucas, Mexico or Nassau, Bahamas etc. The sleaze about those locations has an appeal. I take it for what it is when there working. Generally speaking Pattaya is filthy, loads of traffic, terrible roads to drive, usually packed with Indian and Chinese tourists. Scams are endless and the food is overpriced unless you get out of the area a bit. I personally think it is an alright place to visit from time to time but I am always reminded as I am leaving that its not a place I would ever live. 

 

That said however, there is always some good entertainment people watching. Seeing that poor old foreigner with fresh tats walking with his young "Date" in tow talking pigeon English holding hands is always good for a laugh. ????. Or the foreigner on the back of his "Dates" Scooter. Maybe the getting attacked by Ladyboys or paying a lot of money for <deleted> cocktails is the "Edgy" part the OP likes.????.

 

IMHO Pattaya is clearly not the best place to live in Thailand but everyone has different standards and expectations of their living environment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

7 hours ago, Halfaboy said:

In short: Pattaya has everything....

But no prostitutes 

7 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

Some people just like dirty unplanned open air brothels with lots of traffic, run by corrupt officials and usually swamped with Chinese tourists, no thanks.

Doesn't not apply to the whole of Thailand?

Soi 6

lk metro

Walking street 

 

Oops I mean temples and clean beaches 

Okay. I am going down there this week, basically to Jomtien. Is there good Mexican and Indian food there?

7 hours ago, Halfaboy said:

In short: Pattaya has everything....

The clap, HIV, genital warts, herpes..............................

    Nice post.  You can make about any kind of life you want in Pattaya with all its variety.  I've enjoyed living here for 10 years. Beautiful condo with ocean view, great friends, shopping and restaurants of all kinds, nice weather year-round lets me swim every day, good hospitals and medical care, 2 airports not far away. Reasonable cost of living.  Pattaya is the best place for me in Thailand, too.

6 hours ago, uesnyc said:

Lest not forget all those glorious balconies.

Right.  let's not forget them.

3 hours ago, rumak said:

Most of the guys on this forum have had plenty of experience with "real girlfriends" .

I think they are well aware that the 20 year olds (and up)  may not fit the "normal" definition

of a girlfriend.    In my opinion,  men (as well as women) all have the freedom to decide for themselves what kind of GF they prefer.  

The true love you talk about has led many foreign men to get married ( the traditional concept of "relationship" ) .  Whether in their own country or in Thailand , many men have very bad

outcomes, emotionally and/or  financially as a result of getting married. 

It is very rare that the true love you refer to remains the same and leads to a long and enduring relationship.  Sometimes the fault of the man,  sometimes the woman, sometimes

things just change .  

Once or twice bitten...... sometimes people just decide that there are other types of girlfriends or boyfriends that they prefer to seek.    I do not judge others.....  though i might cringe a bit from time to time

 

Good afternoon Rumak.

Thankyou take time for your long answer.

But i not talk about why farang men in Pattaya like sex worker.

 

My point only to say Is not real “girlfriend” if she sexworker. It is “financial transaction.” 

I hope you understand now. 

 Maybe some guys imagine that is real girlfriend. But generally speaking he is only a “customer”.

25 minutes ago, Mansell said:

Okay. I am going down there this week, basically to Jomtien. Is there good Mexican and Indian food there?

 

You havent been listening, PATTAYA HAS EVERYTHING!

I live in controversy but everyone has issues with this. 
I do like Pattaya though!

1 hour ago, cdemundo said:

I like Pattaya as well.

It seems like "respectable people" don't like Pattaya and never go there.

Makes me think of Marlena Dietrich in the movie Shanghai Express :

"Don't you find respectable people terribly... dull?"

 

That's a solid reference ????

49 minutes ago, newnative said:

    Nice post.  You can make about any kind of life you want in Pattaya with all its variety.  I've enjoyed living here for 10 years. Beautiful condo with ocean view, great friends, shopping and restaurants of all kinds, nice weather year-round lets me swim every day, good hospitals and medical care, 2 airports not far away. Reasonable cost of living.  Pattaya is the best place for me in Thailand, too.

I agree, 100%. I have condo cosy beach, only 6 or 7 minutes to walking at or Jomtien

50 minutes ago, Mansell said:

Okay. I am going down there this week, basically to Jomtien. Is there good Mexican and Indian food there?

Yes there is but treat yourself to some Aussie food. Tinnies, best pies in the World (and that's coming from a Brit).