New Kawasaki Ninja ZX-25R

[papa al]

6 hours ago, gargamon said:

Yamaha twin jet? My first bike too...

 

[mike787]

SO when are you picking it up???  Send us all a pick of you on it riding at the speed of light...

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, mike787 said:

SO when are you picking it up???  Send us all a pick of you on it riding at the speed of light...

It will sound like the speed of light - even in 1st gear. ???? 

[papa al]

Riding at the speed of light would be massive.

Like, more than the mass of the known universe.

Or so Albert hypothesized.

[eisfeld]

4 minutes ago, papa al said:

Riding at the speed of light would be massive.

Like, more than the mass of the known universe.

Or so Albert hypothesized.

With an interesting power-to-weight ratio.

[Damrongsak]

If one were to add a flux capacitor and get it up to 88 MPH, you could time travel.  Our local auto parts place lists it, but looks like they are out of stock.

 

   

[JonnyF]

Pricing released in New Zealand. 15,990 NZD which is around 320,000 Baht.

 

Ouch, a bit spendy for a 250 even with 4 cylinders, good suspension, quickshifter etc.

 

https://bikeadvice.in/kawasaki-zx25r-pricing-response/

 

Hopefully the insanely strong Baht makes it cheaper here in Thailand.

[ktm jeff]

Wasnt the little Honda CBR 250 RR about that price , but with half the cylinders , fewer riding aids and just 37 BHP

[Damrongsak]

2 hours ago, ktm jeff said:

Wasnt the little Honda CBR 250 RR about that price , but with half the cylinders , fewer riding aids and just 37 BHP

I saw around 250,000 baht mentioned.  Elsewhere 847,000 yen in Japan.  

[OneMoreFarang]

8 hours ago, Damrongsak said:

10 hours ago, ktm jeff said:

Wasnt the little Honda CBR 250 RR about that price , but with half the cylinders , fewer riding aids and just 37 BHP

I saw around 250,000 baht mentioned.  Elsewhere 847,000 yen in Japan.  

I think people who are interested in the Kawasaki are interested in 4 cylinders and a high rev screaming engine.

A 2 cylinder will never produced any sound like that. 

[JonnyF]

10 hours ago, Damrongsak said:

I saw around 250,000 baht mentioned.  Elsewhere 847,000 yen in Japan.  

Yeah the CBR was 249,000 which actually makes the ZX-25R look slightly better value considering it's a far superior spec to the Honda.

 

Kawasaki's are normally quite well priced in Thailand so with the strong Baht and the Japan-Thai FTA I reckon 299,000 Baht is possible. Obviously you're going to need around another 30k or so to add the Yoshi exhaust, it would be criminal not to.

 

 

 

 

[VocalNeal]

18 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

30k or so to add the Yoshi exhaust, it would be criminal not to.

Wait until it is released into Indonesia and get an Indonesian exhaust for about 5000 baht. Or even a local Thai one.

 

Although mine has not arrived yet! 

 

Ixil for me but....

Edited June 12, 2020 by VocalNeal

[JonnyF]

Released in Indo this week.

 

https://www.rushlane.com/kawasaki-zx25r-launch-price-is-idr-96-million-12367392.html

 

IDR96 million is about 210,000 Baht but Facebook is saying about 250,000 Baht in Thailand. The only thing putting me off is the weight. 182 kg is quite a lot for a 250. Looking forward to some reviews soon. Hopefully they'll have one at the BKK motor show later this week.

 

[JonnyF]

269,000 for the SE model.

 

The standard model gets dual-channel ABS but the SE variant gets different riding modes, traction control system, and a bi-directional quickshifter.

 

That's a pretty good spec. 

 

Showa sourced 37 mm separate function forks with 120 mm wheel-travel and horizontal back link mono-shock with pre-load adjustability and 116 mm wheel-travel. And handling the braking duties are four-piston 310 mm front and single-piston 220 mm rear disc brakes. 

 

Let's say 300k all in with that Yoshi pipe. Tasty! ????

 

[eisfeld]

The features look good. But at nearly the price and weight of a 650... I dunno. Not sure if it will be popular in Thailand as there's no 250cc step in any regulations/laws.

[JonnyF]

58 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

The features look good. But at nearly the price and weight of a 650... I dunno. Not sure if it will be popular in Thailand as there's no 250cc step in any regulations/laws.

Yeah if the specs I've seen are correct it's heavier, pricier and less torquey than the Ninja 400 which will certainly be used as a stick to beat it with, maybe rightly so.

 

Of course, the suspension, brakes, QS and blipper, TC etc. make it a much higher spec bike. I need to see it really, but there's definitely something intangible about it that appeals to me.

[ktm jeff]

This is going to be a bike you buy with your heart , not your head. Maybe a 400/4 is planned too. Or a 250 race series. Either way , it good to see Kawasaki pushing the boundaries to produce such an advanced and technical bike for a similar price to the Honda 250 twin. 

[eisfeld]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

but there's definitely something intangible about it that appeals to me.

Yes I think that's the essence of it and what in the end can make a really good bike! Something that's not exactly good value or makes too much sense but... there's the intangible that pulls you and the specs (apart from torque heh) are good so maybe can make you happy for a long time, it is special.

[OneMoreFarang]

I think it's all about the sound.

Many of us who had a high revving bike love that sound and that sound feels fast - even if in reality other bigger bikes are faster.

 

[JonnyF]

14 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I think it's all about the sound.

Many of us who had a high revving bike love that sound and that sound feels fast - even if in reality other bigger bikes are faster.

 

For me it was about 2 things.

 

1. The sound.

2. The lightweight feel/flickability of a small machine. At 182kgs that's kind of gone. My trusty old Ninja 250R is 170kgs and feels like a bit of a pig sometimes. 

 

The old ZXR250R's were about 160kg wet. 182kg is a lot for a 250. My MT09 is only a few kg more than that now I've replaced the exhaust.

 

It almost seems like it must be the wrong figure. Hope so.

[OneMoreFarang]

13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

For me it was about 2 things.

 

1. The sound.

2. The lightweight feel/flickability of a small machine. At 182kgs that's kind of gone. My trusty old Ninja 250R is 170kgs and feels like a bit of a pig sometimes. 

 

The old ZXR250R's were about 160kg wet. 182kg is a lot for a 250. My MT09 is only a few kg more than that now I've replaced the exhaust.

 

It almost seems like it must be the wrong figure. Hope so.

According to Wikipedia my favorite VFR400 NC30 weights 164 kg dry or 182 kg wet.

That bike, with a low center of gravity and a low rider position felt pretty nimble - but not like a small 250cc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_VFR400

 

[JonnyF]

56 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

According to Wikipedia my favorite VFR400 NC30 weights 164 kg dry or 182 kg wet.

That bike, with a low center of gravity and a low rider position felt pretty nimble - but not like a small 250cc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_VFR400

 

Yeah it's possibly that it's perfectly balanced with the weight low down and therefore feels very nimble.

 

Unfortunately, being Thailand it's going to be very difficult to get a test ride to find out. I'll have to wait for some reviews.

[ZergBurger]

I pre ordered one today in chiang mai. Should be here in October 

[OneMoreFarang]

34 minutes ago, ZergBurger said:

I pre ordered one today in chiang mai. Should be here in October 

How much?

[johng]

8 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

How much?

269,000 baht

 

[OneMoreFarang]

3 minutes ago, johng said:

269,000 baht

 

I wait to hear the first one on Sukhumvit. And then I have to check my bank account... 

[4MyEgo]

4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I wait to hear the first one on Sukhumvit. And then I have to check my bank account... 

Go big....R

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_n7ru1e-rg

 

or 

 

 

Edited August 1, 2020 by 4MyEgo

[Henryford]

I had a Kawasaki Z400/4 back in the 1980s, this one should be great. Wish i had 269,000 lying around.

[johng]

4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

check my bank account...

Miles to much for my bank account  no need to check !  ????

..I'll just have stick with the rather old and tatty 2 smoker 150cc 12,000 RPM   160+ KPH  (speedo indicated)

8,500 baht.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, johng said:

Miles to much for my bank account  no need to check !  ????

..I'll just have stick with the rather old and tatty 2 smoker 150cc 12,000 RPM   160+ KPH  (speedo indicated)

8,500 baht.

Something like 8,500THB per month might work ;)