UK ready to quit EU on 'Australia terms' if no Brexit deal, Johnson says

[473geo]

5 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

indeed, and since we import vastly more than we export, the additional cost of imports will far exceed the modest gains on exports. 

Net effect - we lose money.

Sorry bannork, just spelling out the simple maths for those slow to catch on.

You've not noticed the complaints about foreign goods disappearing from shelves in Thailand, that is the net result of high prices, and lack of demand. UK could well follow the same route, After all you guys are saying it will not be a matter of choice, the UK will be in such bind foreign goods will quite simply not be affordable or perhaps as an occasional luxury.

[bannork]

12 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

The UK can and will keep importing food , and with global warming , we will soon be able to grow exotic food ourselves

Papaya trees, Torquay 50 species.

[CorpusChristie]

Just now, Rookiescot said:

How much is it going to cost?

And yes at some point you might be able to make some decent wine but that takes land away from other agriculture.

So here have a bottle of Engurlands finest plonk but sadly theres no food to go with it.

The UK has lots of barren fields where nothing is grown because it would just end up being surplus food that no one wants and the E.U pays these farmers NOT to grow anything , plenty of land available  for growing things

[Rookiescot]

11 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

The Pound fell slightly after the referendum , and it continued to slide because of the uncertainty, which was caused by the naysayers

Really?

The pound crashed after the referendum and continued to slide. It perked up a bit when the chance of a second referendum was a possibility but after Johnson got voted in it dropped again.

The markets hate Brexit. 

[elliss]

12 hours ago, sandyf said:

Latest UK voting intention(28 June)

 

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer has overtaken Boris Johnson in polling as the UK’s preferred prime minister for the first time.

An Opinium Poll out last night showed 37 per cent of people thought Starmer would do a better job as prime minister, compared to 35 per cent for Johnson

 

 Correct .

Straw head is dead .

 

Edited June 30, 2020 by elliss

[david555]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/30/boris-johnson-vows-to-act-fast-to-fix-economy-in-wake-of-coronavirus

Edited June 30, 2020 by david555

[Rookiescot]

Just now, CorpusChristie said:

The UK has lots of barren fields where nothing is grown because it would just end up being surplus food that no one wants and the E.U pays these farmers NOT to grow anything , plenty of land available  for growing things

OK then its no problem then.

Even though during the second world war with EVERY piece of arable land in the country producing food and a far lower population we still couldnt feed ourselves.

[elliss]

5 hours ago, Loiner said:

A lawyer by trade, he's a professional trained liar. As a human rights specialist he's one of the most despicable of all those charlatans. No wonder he was made Director of Public Prosecutions and Head of the Crown Prosecution Service. He presided over many of their biggest cover ups and witch hunts between 2008 and 2013, most notably the grooming gangs cover up period.

 

            Links? if any,  would be much appreciated ... 

 

Edited June 30, 2020 by elliss

[473geo]

2 minutes ago, david555 said:

Honest and up front, anybody who did not see a tax or vat hike coming is a true ignoramus

[473geo]

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

OK then its no problem then.

Even though during the second world war with EVERY piece of arable land in the country producing food and a far lower population we still couldnt feed ourselves.

Well I think we will be able to afford a few imported items as we will not be at war, maybe we will see the proper return of the allotments

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, 473geo said:

Honest and up front, anybody who did not see a tax or vat hike coming is a true ignoramus

But we were promised unicorns and sunny uplands.

No worse off than if we had remained remember?

[bannork]

6 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

OK then its no problem then.

Even though during the second world war with EVERY piece of arable land in the country producing food and a far lower population we still couldnt feed ourselves.

We shouldn't forget the UK working population don't want to work on the land. Boris has had to beg Eastern Europeans to return to pick farm produce.

 

[Rookiescot]

Just now, 473geo said:

Well I think we will be able to afford a few imported items as we will not be at war, maybe we will see the proper return of the allotments

And paying for them with what?

A pound in freefall? 

The UK cant keep just printing money and selling junk bonds.

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, bannork said:

We shouldn't forget the UK working population don't want to work on the land. Boris has had to beg Eastern Europeans to return to pick farm produce.

 

No those plucky Brexiteers will volunteer to work for free. A small price to pay for blue/black passports.

[473geo]

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

But we were promised unicorns and sunny uplands.

No worse off than if we had remained remember?

I think you are getting a little confused - post covid is the hint - you know paying for furlough leave

[CorpusChristie]

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

And paying for them with what?

A pound in freefall? 

The UK cant keep just printing money and selling junk bonds.

The Pound has been quite stable in the last 3 months 

[elliss]

8 minutes ago, 473geo said:

Honest and up front, anybody who did not see a tax or vat hike coming is a true ignoramus

 

 Along with an increase in Members salaries , during these difficult times ..

[473geo]

3 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

And paying for them with what?

A pound in freefall? 

The UK cant keep just printing money and selling junk bonds.

Scots fivers

[Rookiescot]

Just now, 473geo said:

I think you are getting a little confused - post covid is the hint - you know paying for furlough leave

Ah so its all the corona virus fault lol.

I was genuinely waiting for the first Brexiteer to blame the virus.

Every country in Europe did the same thing.

Lets see how fast they recover and how long it takes the UK.

Perfect storm.

[CorpusChristie]

7 minutes ago, bannork said:

We shouldn't forget the UK working population don't want to work on the land. Boris has had to beg Eastern Europeans to return to pick farm produce.

 

The Eastern Europeans stayed at home this year because of the Corona virus , nothing to do with Brexit

[473geo]

1 minute ago, elliss said:

 

 Along with an increase in Members salaries , during these difficult times ..

In the grand scheme of covid cost you are talking pennies

 

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

Ah so its all the corona virus fault lol.

I was genuinely waiting for the first Brexiteer to blame the virus.

Every country in Europe did the same thing.

Lets see how fast they recover and how long it takes the UK.

Perfect storm.

As I said anybody who did not expect covid to be paid for is an ignoramus - didn't expect anybody to put their hand up though

[elliss]

5 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

The Pound has been quite stable in the last 3 months 

 

            Until Brexit raised its ugly head . 

             Gbp , going down the pan ..

[Sujo]

I dont know why there are so many posts on this subject.

 

The uk is leaving. It has no say on how it leaves. The eu decides what it accepts.

 

Thats it. End of thread.

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, 473geo said:

In the grand scheme of covid cost you are talking pennies

 

As I said anybody who did not expect covid to be paid for is an ignoramus - didn't expect anybody to put their hand up though

OK so where do you think the extra tax should happen?

VAT or people using tax havens to hide their assets?

I know which one I think will rise.

[CorpusChristie]

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

OK so where do you think the extra tax should happen?

VAT or people using tax havens to hide their assets?

I know which one I think will rise.

I think all British people receiving funds from the UK Gov , by means of pensions and things, should be forced to go and live back in the UK and keep the money within the UK

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

I think all British people receiving funds from the UK Gov , by means of pensions and things, should be forced to go and live back in the UK and keep the money within the UK

I dont get any money from the UK government. Indeed I still pay a lot of tax every month.

In reality I am subsidising the UK not the other way around.

You Brexiteers are actually leeching off me.

[473geo]

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

OK so where do you think the extra tax should happen?

VAT or people using tax havens to hide their assets?

I know which one I think will rise.

Wages and probably VAT is where I would hit - Not really wise to upset those with money to invest if that is what a country is looking for to progress

UK has looked after the working population really well to minimise suffering through the covid crisis and it is the least they can do to support the country that stood by them in their time of need

 

[johnpetersen]

6 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

I think all British people receiving funds from the UK Gov , by means of pensions and things, should be forced to go and live back in the UK and keep the money within the UK

And possibly starve to death? Or wait until the winter to freeze to death? Maybe the reason a lot of retired Britons live abroad is because they can't afford to live in the UK?

[johnpetersen]

3 minutes ago, 473geo said:

Wages and probably VAT is where I would hit - Not really wise to upset those with money to invest if that is what a country is looking for to progress

UK has looked after the working population really well to minimise suffering through the covid crisis and it is the least they can do to support the country that stood by them in their time of need

 

In other words regressive taxation. Those who can least afford it. Well, that's what the Tories have been doing for years.

[elliss]

4 minutes ago, 473geo said:

Wages and probably VAT is where I would hit - Not really wise to upset those with money to invest if that is what a country is looking for to progress

UK has looked after the working population really well to minimise suffering through the covid crisis and it is the least they can do to support the country that stood by them in their time of need

 

 

 Fyi ,  working class in the UK ,  is becoming a extinct species ..