Giving up on Pattaya

[Leaver]

8 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Here you go...

If only the beach could stay this way, but surrounded by the normal raging nightlife.  ????  

[Laughing Gravy]

On 9/5/2020 at 2:05 PM, BigStar said:

A lot of Filipinos speak and write far better English than the average Brit, anyway, so I doubt the problem calls for our usual bigoted blanket condemnation, much as we love that.

I have to say that statement is absolutely nonsense. While I like Filipinos and have worked with many in various countries, even some who have studied and stayed in the UK. Your statement is just simply not true. I would say provide some evidence but I know you can't.

 

That goes for Aussies, Kiwis and Americans. they are better than Filipinos speaking and writing and they should be, as it is not the Filipinos first language.

 

I mention it not out of any anger but out of the fact that you are talking complete rollocks, unless your interaction with Brits or any other first language users are all illiterate.

 

I will help you out.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate

Edited September 6, 2020 by Laughing Gravy

[Mike Teavee]

48 minutes ago, Leaver said:

If only the beach could stay this way, but surrounded by the normal raging nightlife.  ????  

That pic looks like it's a beach in Naklua so there isn't any nightlife around it... Just hotels... 

[kingofthemountain]

5 minutes ago, Mike Teavee said:

That pic looks like it's a beach in Naklua so there isn't any nightlife around it... Just hotels... 

Nope

it's Pattaya beach

the photo seems  to be taken not far from soi 6

but you can see the beer garden at the other extremity

near the walking street entry

[Mike Teavee]

1 minute ago, kingofthemountain said:

Nope

it's Pattaya beach

the photo seems  to be taken not far from soi 6

but you can see the beer garden at the other extremity

near the walking street entry

For some reason I thought the tall building in the distance was the Siam Hotel, but I can clearly see View Talay 6 now so you're spot on, it's around the Soi 6 area (Have never been on the beach there ???? ) 

  

[Youlike]

Show this video to the Thai, this is how Pattaya should be made! Torremolinos in Spain...

 

 

Edited September 6, 2020 by Youlike

[nausea]

46 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

A lot of Filipinos speak and write far better English than the average Brit, anyway, so I doubt the problem calls for our usual bigoted blanket condemnation, much as we love that.

 

46 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

I have to say that statement is absolutely nonsense

Have to agree. In the UK I worked for the Refugee Legal Centre for a bit, and the interpreters there were excellent, exposed to the language 24 hours a day. Here I've met certified interpreters who get the most basic things wrong. You have to live and imbue the culture. 

[Leaver]

28 minutes ago, Youlike said:

Show this video to the Thai, this is how Pattaya should be made! Torremolinos in Spain...

 

 

I would say Spain is going to have a huge increase in Euro zone tourism over the next 12 to 18 months.  Greece the same.  

 

Edited September 6, 2020 by Leaver

[champers]

4 minutes ago, Leaver said:

I would say Spain is going to have a huge increase in Euro zone tourism over the next 12 to 18 months.  Greece the same.  

 

Both appear to have recurring hotspots of infections, same with Portugal and France. People are wary of going for fear of 14 day quarantine on return. Holiday high season is about done anyway.

[ChaiyaTH]

43 minutes ago, Youlike said:

Show this video to the Thai, this is how Pattaya should be made! Torremolinos in Spain...

 

 

The more I look into the options, prices and looks of Spain, the more I like to get started to move there.

[Leaver]

13 minutes ago, champers said:

Both appear to have recurring hotspots of infections, same with Portugal and France. People are wary of going for fear of 14 day quarantine on return. Holiday high season is about done anyway.

I agree, but eventually, the Euro zone will agree on what is an acceptable risk, or what risk they can manage, including managing clusters and small outbreaks, and will allow freedom of movement.

 

Sure, the traditional high season for Europe is finished, but Covid in 2020 has disrupted the traditional seasons.  

 

I have no doubt Spain will be in the minds of many in Europe.  

[aussiexpat]

I love what they've done with Pattaya beach ????

 

[Laughing Gravy]

1 hour ago, nausea said:

 

Have to agree. In the UK I worked for the Refugee Legal Centre for a bit, and the interpreters there were excellent, exposed to the language 24 hours a day. Here I've met certified interpreters who get the most basic things wrong. You have to live and imbue the culture. 

2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

A lot of Filipinos speak and write far better English than the average Brit, anyway, so I doubt the problem calls for our usual bigoted blanket condemnation, much as we love that.

I did not say that so take it off as it was not me as you are quoting me. which is not correct.

 

As for your second statement, you worked for a service that specialised in interpreting. Yes they should speak good English its their jobs. It would be like saying that more Brits speak and write better Spanish that Spaniards because you know a few people who worked at interpreting.

 

You are talking absolute nonsense and quite frankly embarrassing yourself with that statement, and trying to use someone else's quote as mine.

 

Some Filipinos speak and write good English but to state more do that Brits is ludicrous.

[Polaky]

4 hours ago, dallen52 said:

Can leave Australia any time. 

Just request to leave.

And have somewhere to go. 

Its not hard.

It took 24 hours to get the ok.

More details?, I am under the impression that if you apply for a two week stint in Maldives which is open btw, you will be rejected, however if you are leaving for 3 months plus your good to go provided you can prove you have funds to back you.

[aussiexpat]

4 hours ago, dallen52 said:

Can leave Australia any time. 

Just request to leave.

And have somewhere to go. 

Its not hard.

It took 24 hours to get the ok.

Please give more info. Where did you go? Did you have to say your are leaving Aussie forever?

[aussiexpat]

5 hours ago, dallen52 said:

Can leave Australia any time. 

Just request to leave.

And have somewhere to go. 

Its not hard.

It took 24 hours to get the ok.

Hoping not but thinking this is a made up troll post, otherwise why not give more details.

[Pattaya46]

4 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:

4 hours ago, kingofthemountain said:

Nope

it's Pattaya beach

the photo seems  to be taken not far from soi 6

but you can see the beer garden at the other extremity

near the walking street entry

For some reason I thought the tall building in the distance was the Siam Hotel, but I can clearly see View Talay 6 now so you're spot on, it's around the Soi 6 area (Have never been on the beach there ???? ) 

Sorry but there is no View Talay 6 on this picture.

The black & white building on the left is the Pattaya Center Hotel, in Soi 12

And this pic must have been taken about opposite of Central Beach Festival/Hilton, near Soi 9

[champers]

3 hours ago, Leaver said:

I agree, but eventually, the Euro zone will agree on what is an acceptable risk, or what risk they can manage, including managing clusters and small outbreaks, and will allow freedom of movement.

 

Sure, the traditional high season for Europe is finished, but Covid in 2020 has disrupted the traditional seasons.  

 

I have no doubt Spain will be in the minds of many in Europe.  

EU countries are all acting independantly, closing borders and provinces as it suits their own country. An EU policy on Covid is a fantasy.

[Leaver]

3 hours ago, champers said:

EU countries are all acting independantly, closing borders and provinces as it suits their own country. An EU policy on Covid is a fantasy.

Did you not see the word in my post, "eventually?"  

[Neeranam]

I can understand Ozzies wanting to live in certain areas of Thailand but certainly not Pattya. Oz has beautiful beaches - I've been to Surfer's Paradise, great! My sister lives in Hampton, just crosses the road to Melbourne beach. Perth has great beaches. Why would anyone want to live in Pattaya?? Before I applied for Thai citizenship, I looked at Australian citizenship as it's a place I love. Compared with Pattaya, there really is only one thing that is cheaper in Pattaya. 

[Leaver]

4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Compared with Pattaya, there really is only one thing that is cheaper in Pattaya. 

Is it rice?  ????

[Hanuman2547]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Compared with Pattaya, there really is only one thing that is cheaper in Pattaya. 

Leo beer?

[jacko45k]

14 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

I mention it not out of any anger but out of the fact that you are talking complete rollocks, unless your interaction with Brits or any other first language users are all illiterate.

Well there are a lot resident in the UK and entitled to passports who are somewhat isolated and speak another language at home.... Muslim women might be an example. And if dropped into parts of Yorkshire and Scotland one might think English is not spoken.

I think his tongue in cheek remark was not 100 percent serious. Part of the reason Filipinos are employed outside of their country is English is well spoken, as with Indians.

[champers]

7 hours ago, Leaver said:

Did you not see the word in my post, "eventually?"  

Yes, I did, but I don't agree with it. The Covid crisis will be over before EU countries agree a combined Covid strategy between them, in my view. Countries have reverted to a self-centred approach, self preservation if you will.  We have all seen country by country statistics about infections and deaths but I don't recall seeing any combined EU figures. 

By the same reasoning, there hasn't been a combined approach to Covid amongst ASEAN nations, nor is their likely to be.

As a point of interest, there is not even a combined approach to Covid in the UK. There are very clear differences between how England and Scotland have acted, for example the Scots taking Greece off the list of safe places to travel to, whilst England didn't.

[Kerryd]

6 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Compared with Pattaya, there really is only one thing that is cheaper in Pattaya. 

Som tam ? (Local food prices in general ?)
Taxis ? (Trains/Buses ?)
Labour ? (Upright and horizontal ?)
Taxes ? (Or lack thereof ?)
Movies ? 
Coconuts (Durian/etc) ?

Cost of living overall is generally cheaper here which is why so many people chose to live here rather than say, Spain. Or Australia. Or Canada.

Which is why people will continue to take up residence in Thailand (and Pattaya) for years to come. Striking a balance between Cost of Living and available services (modern hospitals, decent infrastructure like power/phones/airports/etc), entertainment choices and so on.

You can live cheaper in other places, but would have to put up with reduced levels and standards in things like health care. 

[hotandsticky]

7 hours ago, Neeranam said:

I can understand Ozzies wanting to live in certain areas of Thailand but certainly not Pattya. Oz has beautiful beaches - I've been to Surfer's Paradise, great! My sister lives in Hampton, just crosses the road to Melbourne beach. Perth has great beaches. Why would anyone want to live in Pattaya?? Before I applied for Thai citizenship, I looked at Australian citizenship as it's a place I love. Compared with Pattaya, there really is only one thing that is cheaper in Pattaya. 

 

 

Simply do what most Aussies do...... buy a girl of of a bar and take her back home. 

 

 

Best of both worlds.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 9/4/2020 at 8:02 PM, Leaver said:

I agree, but most want what's best for their children, and whilst we all enjoy living in Thailand, perhaps that's because we had the benefit of making our money in the west.

Another reason why I don't understand why old farangs with families already would have children in LOS. They moved to LOS to enjoy LOS, and go back for a kid! Just because the Thai wife wants a kid is not, IMO, sufficient reason to have one, or more.

 

Of course we enjoyed LOS because we made money elsewhere. LOS without money sucks big time. Same in any country, but my money went way further in LOS.

[thaibeachlovers]

39 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Simply do what most Aussies do...... buy a girl of of a bar and take her back home. 

 

 

Best of both worlds.

Wrong. When a Thai girl is taken to a PC polluted western country they get infected with it as well, IMO.

[jacko45k]

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Just because the Thai wife wants a kid is not, IMO, sufficient reason to have one, or more.

To deny a young Thai wife children of her own is a rather serious and maybe selfish decision. I go along with you fully that some 65-70 year old retired guy is really too old to start a new family... but the wife may really bring pressure to bear, particularly if she sees a sister or friend happy with a new baby. 

It also gives them a sense of security.

Edited September 7, 2020 by jacko45k

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, jacko45k said:

To deny a young Thai wife children of her own is a rather serious and maybe selfish decision. I go along with you fully that some 65-70 year old retired guy is really too old to start a new family... but the wife may really bring pressure to bear, particularly if she sees a sister or friend happy with a new baby. 

IMO it's to anchor the ATM. If the guy has a kid with her, she knows he won't leave her when she cuts him off.

I told my wife before I married her she wasn't going to have children with me, and she agreed anyway. Absolutely she should know BEFORE they get married if the guy can't or won't give her children. It would be very wrong of the guy to get married to one that wanted kids if he didn't.