How easy is it to spread Covid with face to face contact?

[Maestro]

Removed some troll posts.

[torturedsole]

22 hours ago, Don Chance said:

Any mask will help. It is a sort of vaccine because it will make covid much less severe since you will inhale much less virus particles giving your body longer to fight the virus

A mask will help with what? I'm certain that I contracted C19 back in February and a mask is hardly a sort of vaccine.

 

I find all this twaddle entertaining but do wonder sometimes.  

[sezze]

4 hours ago, torturedsole said:

A mask will help with what? I'm certain that I contracted C19 back in February and a mask is hardly a sort of vaccine.

 

I find all this twaddle entertaining but do wonder sometimes.  

Maybe you contracted maybe not ? Even if you confirmed yes , maybe we pin a yellow star on your tshirt to say he is fine without mask .

A mask will not help 100% , this is a fact , but it does make a huge difference in the amount of droplets containing virus you spread around you if you do have it . We cannot see who has immunity or not , so in that way , the only thing you can do is say , all wear it . Same with condoms , why we not say only people who have something wear it , so all others can do it without issues , it doesnt work like that , you just dont know .

Why help others ? Ok , in case you ever need surgery , ask the doctors just do it in your living room , without desinfecting or masks , because they only do it for you anyway . We are a society , we try help each other in 1 way or another . Thats my view of it .

Edited September 20, 2020 by sezze

[scorecard]

On 9/19/2020 at 6:45 AM, torturedsole said:

Sure. There's a good chance you've contracted C19 previously and not even noticed or will do shortly but highly unlikely that anything untoward will happen to you either way.

 

I had it back in February and still here. I only wear the mask when out shopping in the UK to avoid all the nut jobs who can't help themselves in policing total enforcement of wearing a mask while shopping. It's easier to comply and avoid the aggravation.  

So everybody except you is an idiot, grow up.

[FarFlungFalang]

13 hours ago, AndrewMciver said:

 

UV isn't doing much good in Brazil or India. 

 

So a mask will prevent some of the viral load getting in you, thus reducing the illness - is that rite?

Just wondering how effective masks are when Thais eat which is a communal hands on everything sharing kind of experience usually longer than 15 minutes and a good opportunity to negate any benefit of all that mask wearing.

 

 

[scorecard]

37 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Just wondering how effective masks are when Thais eat which is a communal hands on everything sharing kind of experience usually longer than 15 minutes and a good opportunity to negate any benefit of all that mask wearing.

 

 

Eating - well to some extent true. But putting masks on again after eating is still advisable and on-going must help to slow spread of the virus. Not difficult to do and not difficult to understand. 

[Bender Rodriguez]

if you are old , sick or have chronic diseases, you better self isolate all YEAR

[CGW]

On 9/19/2020 at 4:07 AM, Poet said:

It is completely safe to be in close proximity to lots of people not wearing masks as long as you wear a t-shirt with some sort of social justice slogan.
Just don't forget to put on a mask before you start looting.

My thoughts exactly, if your a looting leftie you will be fine, conservative! your doomed 

Either way, welcome to the New "Marxist" era, so just be scared regardless! 

[robblok]

On 9/19/2020 at 3:59 AM, CG1 Blue said:

You know 20 people who were infected? This is something that baffles me. I know a lot of people, real friends, FB friends, people across multiple countries, and I only know of one person who got Covid. That was the husband of an old friend I haven't seen for 10 years. 

 

I don't doubt your claim of 20 people, but I do find it interesting.  

 

1 of my clients had 2 in her family die and got it herself too. A family friend got it recoverd (or shall i say is a shade of himself). So it happens and people get it. Just bad luck i think.

[1FinickyOne]

On 9/19/2020 at 3:55 AM, torturedsole said:

Lock yourself indoors for the next five years. It's the only way to achieve what you're looking for.  

or maybe go about your life and take the few minimal precautions... wear a mask in shopping areas... its really not a big price to pay...

 

 

[Gulfsailor]

It depends on the strain. The strain in Europe appears to spread very easily. A friend of mine was at a party in Amsterdam last week with around 20 others. Two days later it became known that a person that visited that party had Covid-19. She was at the party for less than 10 minutes. Health services have started to test all party goers and of the first 10 results coming back, all of them tested positive. The others should get their results today.

[LiveKiss]

Hypochondria is a dangerous mental issue, especially when amplified by the political-medical-media establishment.

Trump had admitted of being a germaphobe way before covid. Now the whole world suffers Trump’s condition.

Masks, gloves, disinfectants.. nothing can save you when you have a mental issue like hypochondria: the germs are everywhere!!

[stouricks]

On 9/19/2020 at 4:36 AM, Don Chance said:

it will make covid much less severe since you will inhale much less virus

Mask are to stop YOU giving droplets out to others, not to stop YOU inhaling them. Washing your hands is the way to stop giving yourself the virus.

And does the severity of Covid depend on how much virus you do inhale. Surely ONE solitary virus can multiply into millions very quickly.

Edited September 20, 2020 by stouricks

[Accidental Tourist]

Covid is a airborne virus! So yes it is a danger having people in front or even near you which are infected with covid. The droplets can stay for minutes in the air and you just walk trough it...BINGO.

Mask are not 100 % save, but lower the risk; surface contact is rarely the case for infection even their can be found traces still after hours and days.

We will have to live with the risk of infection until their is a vaccine available, and even than it might be NOT 100 %. Facts of Life... 

[JusticeGB]

Both in the UK and in the USA people living in care homes died in large numbers because they were close to others with covid19. Wearing a mask reduces the risk of contracting covid19. The answer to your question must be that it's easy to spread the disease by talking to people who have the disease if both of you don't wear masks or socially distance. 

Edited September 20, 2020 by JusticeGB
Typo

[richard_smith237]

5 minutes ago, Accidental Tourist said:

Covid is a airborne virus!

Airborne or carried by aerosol ? - the two are different. 

 

5 minutes ago, Accidental Tourist said:

So yes it is a danger having people in front or even near you which are infected with covid. The droplets can stay for minutes in the air and you just walk trough it...BINGO.

Mask are not 100 % save, but lower the risk; surface contact is rarely the case for infection even their can be found traces still after hours and days.

We will have to live with the risk of infection until their is a vaccine available, and even than it might be NOT 100 %. Facts of Life... 

Agreed.  Just as we live with the common cold and influenza we will have to live with Covid-19 as it evolves alongside us, just as influenza and colds do. 

 

If a vaccine can be found its efficacy will be questionable at best - the Influenza Vaccine when targeted correctly is reportedly 40-60% (in)effective. 

 

[stouricks]

5 minutes ago, JusticeGB said:

Wearing a mask reduces the risk of contracting covid19.

Is a mask not to stop YOUR droplets from reaching others, as opposed to stop you catching it?

[richard_smith237]

5 minutes ago, stouricks said:

Is a mask not to stop YOUR droplets from reaching others, as opposed to stop you catching it?

Primarily, yes... the main purpose of the basic masks is to prevent the expulsion of aerosol from our lungs when talking, coughing, sneezing etc - the mask is effectively a barrier - (imperfect, but better than nothing). 

The main purpose of this prevention is to stop aerosol contaminated with SAR-CoV-2 from settling on surfaces which we then touch and transmit to ourselves with hand to mouth / face contact - which is why hand washing and hand sanitiser is key in combatting viruses. 

 

That said, when wearing a mask it will also ‘filter’ aerosol in the air we breath to some extent - Imperfect and of course not a hazmat suit, but certainly better than nothing although ‘self protection’ is not the key purpose of the rudimentary surgical masks we’ve been wearing. 

[Srikcir]

Visualization shows exactly how face masks stop covid-19 transmission:

https://www.livescience.com/face-mask-visualization-droplets-covid-19.html

With regard to shielding eyes, it doesn't hurt but apparently not proven in scientifically-controlled tests to date as reducing covid infection risk. 

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaophthalmology/fullarticle/2770873

 

[treetops]

4 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

With regard to shielding eyes, it doesn't hurt but apparently not proven in scientifically-controlled tests to date as reducing covid infection risk. 

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaophthalmology/fullarticle/2770873

Not proven, as you say, but the evidence to date is it's highly likely as described in the article.

[potless]

39 minutes ago, stouricks said:

46 minutes ago, JusticeGB said:

Wearing a mask reduces the risk of contracting covid19.

Is a mask not to stop YOUR droplets from reaching others, as opposed to stop you catching it?

On Wednesday 17th September, Dr Robert Redfield, the Director of the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention appeared before a Senate sub committee. His theory being that wearing a mask could reduce the amount of virus that someone ingests/inhales, thus giving the immune system a better chance to fight the virus. This was widely reported in the media and maybe the source of some previous posts.  

[RocketDog]

I skipped reading more than the first few replies because most just took the opportunity to field more stale jokes. 

Andrew, I keep up with the latest research and can attempt an answer.  I am not a doctor or viroloogistd but do have a medical background and long term interest in these subjects. (I've also read a ton of Zombie books!) ????????

 

As with any infectious agent your immune system response is proportional to the gross number of particles present and depends also on how many of such find a suitable environment. It's strictly a numbers game.

 

Some survive, attach to a cell membrane and inject the RNA viral load; some don't and macrophages identify them as foreign protein and engulf them. 

 

Current experience states that C19 cannot survive on or penetrate skin surfaces. Mucous membrane tissues, mouth, nose, eyes, and inner ears are ideal breeding grounds for viruses and bacteria. Presumably open cuts or sores would also qualify. 

 

Since it's a numbers game the length of exposure, the amount of particles you encounter would be the important factors as well as the specific strain you encounter; some are more infectious than others. Obviously wearing a mask will minimize your chances of infection. 

 

Some of the most recent research suggests that very low particle count infections may over time actually promote immunity without ever showing symptoms. 

 

Good luck. 

 

[Tbone999]

Check this out... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrPCgh4UkAU&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1aA3hH_jO12uyXzAJ3kT8WJC81gw2WSWK9NarwB_ZSAx51WW5CFjUEFfY

[Jingthing]

Here you go.

 

 

https://elemental.medium.com/the-most-likely-way-youll-get-infected-with-covid-19-30430384e5a5

[Nout]

On 9/19/2020 at 3:45 AM, torturedsole said:

Sure. There's a good chance you've contracted C19 previously and not even noticed or will do shortly but highly unlikely that anything untoward will happen to you either way.

 

I had it back in February and still here. I only wear the mask when out shopping in the UK to avoid all the nut jobs who can't help themselves in policing total enforcement of wearing a mask while shopping. It's easier to comply and avoid the aggravation.  

Did you have a test?

[Nout]

In what situations and what locations is the OP experiencing people getting in his face?

[Nanaplaza666]

On 9/19/2020 at 3:57 AM, AndrewMciver said:

 

You've made your point. You don't take this seriously. Now can you just leave so i can get some answers and feedback to the question. 

 

 

I think this was the perfect answer for you AndrewMciver . If you can get an STD from an unprotected BJ , then it's very well  possible that you can catch an airborn virus thru breathing in an infected persons breath or even spoken consumtion . Sending people away for just stating the obvious looks like you are not taking it to serious yourself . That being said , it doesn't mean you are going to die if you catch it from someone so don't be so paranoia . There are still a lot of infections all over the world , but far less people are dying from it compared to the beginning of the outbrake . 

[Seeall]

On 9/19/2020 at 3:51 AM, jastheace said:

face to face contact you say.

you mean french kissing. yeah that's fine, i searched and there's nothing wrong with that, just don't sit closer to 2 metres to anyone when doing it. hope that helps.

Are LB's certified C19 free and ok for French jub jub ?

[Seeall]

On 9/19/2020 at 3:57 AM, AndrewMciver said:

 

You've made your point. You don't take this seriously. Now can you just leave so i can get some answers and feedback to the question. 

 

 

Nobody knows!!! just bla ... look at all the goverments around, say this say that, no mask must masks...... it seems mostly political and your health is foremost in their view?

[Seeall]

16 hours ago, treetops said:

Then why didn't you present some evidence instead of:

 

and

 

which indicates you (or the guy quoted) don't know either way?

All blah blah nobody knows...