11 hours ago, fangless said:

They were tourists, not residents,

 

 Do foreigner residents , require a Visa ?..

 

Thai logic, kick out tourists already here, and hope that supee rich tourists will replace them.????

11 hours ago, genericptr said:

So what? I'm leaving now. You won. Are you happy or something????

 

10 hours ago, Chivas said:

Fella you've had 6 months amnesty and the Thais have been extremely generous. Time to go home

 

9 hours ago, mlkik said:

Go home ! Thailand is not your home ,you are a person on holiday ! Why do you think you have rights in another country ?

Sorry genericptr.  There are a certain subset of people on this forum whose self-esteem is so low that the only way they can find self-worth is by demeaning others who may be less fortunate.  They actually do fit in well with the Thai population who are status obsessed and also find meaning in life by standing on the misery and suffering of others while promoting themselves as icons of social and financial success.  Sorry these people need to attempt to hit you with the door on the way out in order make themselves feel superior.

Best of luck in your return back home.  When you get back let everyone know the reality that lies behind the so-called Thai Smile. 

11 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

No, because the USA can't handle the pandemic properly.

with a better than 99% survival rate, curious asks, what is there to handle?

11 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

No, because the USA can't handle the pandemic properly.

Exactly. And that's the reason why you can't do a visa run at the moment. 

4 hours ago, YuryBalyasnikov said:

Payed for Medical 3m visa. Taking my daughter from Int School in next 3 month.

<deleted> this. I ll fly home. Forget about my 5-7mil THB min for the next 5 years. I ll find the place to spend them. 3 of my friends taking their kids out of schools too.

I am so happy now that i was smart enought not to buy any property here.

Was "in and out" in Thailand for the past 10 years. Never again

Why anyone would "buy" property here, is beyond any rationale thought. I have friends who've done it, and I always just smile, thumbs up and snicker to myself. ????????

1 minute ago, wombat said:

with a better than 99% survival rate, curious asks, what is there to handle?

They need to handle the narrative that Covid is going to kill everyone.  And in that way the governors, mayors, and other 'leaders' who are predisposed to dictatorial and autocratic rule can come out of the closet and have a field day with the general public.

I could be wrong,would not be the first time.

150 000 foreigners fined and or jailed?

Not going to happen imo.

Last minute new rule.

150,000 now still on tourist visas...? 

IMO, impossible!...Where are they all hiding.....?

1 minute ago, Starmocihc said:

Why anyone would "buy" property here, is beyond any rationale thought. I have friends who've done it, and I always just smile, thumbs up and snicker to myself. ????????

You can buy property in Thailand, you just can't possess Thai land as a foreigner. But your Thai wife can. 

It is about time that all embassies have a good chat with the Thai immigration. Let's start with a total visa ban for all Thai immigration officers and their families when they want to visit another country. 

2 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

A fair observation - which does not touch upon the evident enjoyment of others misfortunes or difficulties in which certain posters seem to be taking such delight.

The poster who you quoted did not exhibit the "enjoyment" you speak of.   He, and many of us that have even been here a long time ........ realize that nothing is for certain.  I don't think many take pleasure in seeing others sent packing..... just a few.    And,  there are always "a few",  on both sides of the story.

 

This is the world of internet forums.  The real world is even harsher .  "we'd all love to change the world".     Has a nice sound to it.   Good for a song.   I think the poster is implying that we all have to learn to deal with the rules,  play the game,  ADAPT !   

 

For us oldies,  it is even more daunting.   So, maybe the tourists can have a little sympathy for us

old farts as well....   eh ? 

 

 

There seems to be a lot of entitled tourists here. Of course, if you don't have the correct visa, you have to leave, Thailand isn't a dosshouse for international lost souls.

There's a Thai saying, "it never rains on your neighbours without you getting wet feet".  Get legalized or leave, you are making it hard for the tourists that satisfy the requirements.

12 hours ago, genericptr said:

Given the absolute shambles tourism is currently in, I still can't believe they're going to send all these tourists home without even offering some alternative visa.

 

What's the explanation for this behavior?

The explanation is simply that they lack common sense or a basic understanding of economics. This government could barely boil an egg between them, let alone forge and enact an effective economic policy regarding the current situation. Regardless of how lenient they have been on those who have been stranded here (and I would be the first to say they have been), Thailand is now facing its seventh month of near 0 foreign tourism, with a negligible number of tourist arrivals since April. Their economy will have shrunk massively by the end of the 4th quarter of 2020 and with no obvious answer to their dire economic woes on the horizon it does seem utterly insane to evict perhaps as many as 400,000 essentially foreign 'tourists'. People who will continue to pile money into the economy and potentially travel / continue to travel around the place providing some much needed support for near destitute tourist reliant business around the country. Furthermore the government would need only slap a 2k baht fee on creating and renewing 30 or 60 day visas for those who are here and have been since April (and therefore pose NO risk re: Covid) which is effectively what they are going to do for people ENTERING from the outside world - people who in their eyes at least, DO pose more of a risk, so I ask again - why not boost their revenue substantially by doing this, rather than booting out billions of baht that they sure as hell won't get back any time soon from any foreign tourists with a laughable 14 day quarantine and god knows how many other asinine hoops to jump through! Typical Thai government thinking I'm afraid - one word for it - woolly. 

11 hours ago, genericptr said:

Given the absolute shambles tourism is currently in, I still can't believe they're going to send all these tourists home without even offering some alternative visa.

 

What's the explanation for this behavior?

Couldn't agree more if there are 150,000 still here and they spend as little as 300 baht a day is that not.?

150,000 x 300 = 45 million a DAY x 7 =350 million a week not including accommodation. then they will be out in force to arrest overstayers and ban them. A very conservative of estimate 350 million  not going into the economy per week 1400 a month, pure madness.

11 hours ago, mlkik said:

I am not jealous of you as I am a long term visa holder and I am not a tourist !

You are a tourist and have been very lucky to have had such a long stay in Thailand as you are just that ... a tourist !

Tourists normally would have to go home or face an overstay,it is the same world wide. Again if you wanted to live in Thailand why do you not have a visa fit for purpose ?

I reckon a lot of the younger foreigners living here were digital nomads who work online. It's virtually impossible for them to get long-term visas - maybe just an ED or volunteer visa. Most of the younger foreigners who were here in Chiang mai have disappeared.

how dumb can you be to chase away the 150.000 remaining tourists that MIGHT want to stay longer with crazy conditions nobody unless being JAILED would accept in the real world ...

3 minutes ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:

The explanation is simply that they lack common sense of a basic understanding of economics. This government could barely boil an egg let alone run an effective economic policy regarding the current situation. Regardless of how lenient they have been on those who have been stranded here (and I would be the first to say they have been), Thailand is now facing its seventh month of near 0 foreign tourism, with near 0 tourist arrivals since April. Their economy will have shrunk massively by the end of the 4th quarter of 2020 and with no obvious answer to their dire economic woes on the horizon it does seem utterly insane to evict perhaps as many as 400,000 essentially foreign 'tourists'. People who will continue to pile money into the economy and potentially travel / continue to travel around the place providing some much needed support for near destitute tourist reliant business around the country. Furthermore the government would need only slap a 2k baht fee on creating and renewing 30 or 60 day visas for those who are here and have been since April (and therefore pose NO risk re: Covid) which is effectively what they are going to do for people ENTERING from the outside world - people who in their eyes at least, DO pose more of a risk, so I ask again - why not boost their revenue substantially by doing this, rather than booting out billions of baht that they sure as hell won't get back any time soon from any foreign tourists with a laughable 14 day quarantine and god knows how many other asinine hoops to jump through! Typical Thai government thinking I'm afraid - one word for it - woolly. 

Rather sad to blame the Thai government for your lack of planning.

11 minutes ago, Starmocihc said:

Why anyone would "buy" property here, is beyond any rationale thought. I have friends who've done it, and I always just smile, thumbs up and snicker to myself. ????????

 

i'm sure its recipricol - you paying rent and all 

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

how dumb can you be to chase away the 150.000 remaining tourists that MIGHT want to stay longer with crazy conditions nobody unless being JAILED would accept in the real world ...

Many Thais would want to stay indefinitely in my country, Scotland. However, we have strict immigration rules. Please tell me why Thailand should be the Flophouse of the world?

12 hours ago, genericptr said:

Given the absolute shambles tourism is currently in, I still can't believe they're going to send all these tourists home without even offering some alternative visa.

 

What's the explanation for this behavior?

Irrational self-destructive tendencies, or more probably just thoughtless misunderstanding of the current circumstances. 

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Many Thais would want to stay indefinitely in my country, Scotland. However, we have strict immigration rules. Please tell me why Thailand should be the Flophouse of the world?

Because we aren't working as whores in Thailand.

Mostly we aren't working at all, we have pensions and investments.

(I don't include you in 'we' by the way)

Just now, 4737 Carlin said:

I reckon a lot of the younger foreigners living here were digital nomads who work online. It's virtually impossible for them to get long-term visas - maybe just an ED or volunteer visa. Most of the younger foreigners who were here in Chiang mai have disappeared.

the few that remain ..... found a way.   usually that way involves money.   welcome to the real world.

almost everything now is  :  take it or leave it  ( or pay )

 

don't blame me .   its what they call the new normal.   haha  not so new.   just getting harder all the time to live free 

5 minutes ago, 4737 Carlin said:

I reckon a lot of the younger foreigners living here were digital nomads who work online. It's virtually impossible for them to get long-term visas - maybe just an ED or volunteer visa. Most of the younger foreigners who were here in Chiang mai have disappeared.

Had they made the money many claim they make doing the digital type of work, well then they could have ponied up the money and bougt the TE Visa to stay, but still they would not be legal for working in Thailand.  No Visa is designed for a Digital Nomad unless he or she is listed as an employee of a company and then can obtain a Non-Imm B with a WP and pay the taxes associated with it.  Clear as mud I know.

1 hour ago, Mike Teavee said:

You said it, they’re “Residents”, get one of the many visas available to you in Thailand & be a “Resident”.

 

Incidentally the only available Resident option available to me (UK Citizen) in the US is a $500,000 investment to live in a slum state... Maybe Thailand should do the same for US Citizens??? ... Thought not... 

Are there even any Americans left in California? All I see are Mexicans and Chinese when I pass through the airport. 

 

US immigration makes no sense to me either. We have 300k Thais and 10s of millions of South Americans but a Britt can't get in without 500k$? How did the Thais get there then? Don't get me started on US immigration.

2 minutes ago, genericptr said:

Are there even any Americans left in California? All I see are Mexicans and Chinese when I pass through the airport. 

 

US immigration makes no sense to me either. We have 300k Thais and 10s of millions of South Americans but a Britt can't get in without 500k$? How did the Thais get there then? Don't get me started on US immigration.

Indeed, it would cost me 16 million baht to retire in the US, yet there are some US retirees here that complain about paying 500,000 baht for an Elite visa.

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Had they made the money many claim they make doing the digital type of work, well then they could have ponied up the money and bougt the TE Visa to stay, but still they would not be legal for working in Thailand.  No Visa is designed for a Digital Nomad unless he or she is listed as an employee of a company and then can obtain a Non-Imm B with a WP and pay the taxes associated with it.  Clear as mud I know.

 

mate, the lambos are all rented, the supervillas are all airbnb's - that lifestyle they pimp on instagram is as fake as the junk scam courses they pump out

 

 

Just now, GeorgeCross said:

mate, the lambos are all rented, the supervillas are all airbnb's - that lifestyle they pimp on instagram is as fake as the junk scam courses they pump out

Know loads of DN's in CM, all still here.

Most of them got part-time teaching jobs when the real teachers were prevented from entering the country.

Know one working as a PE teacher, nice bloke, it gave him an easy VISA extension.

15 minutes ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:

The explanation is simply that they lack common sense or a basic understanding of economics. This government could barely boil an egg between them, let alone forge and enact an effective economic policy regarding the current situation. Regardless of how lenient they have been on those who have been stranded here (and I would be the first to say they have been), Thailand is now facing its seventh month of near 0 foreign tourism, with a negligible number of tourist arrivals since April. Their economy will have shrunk massively by the end of the 4th quarter of 2020 and with no obvious answer to their dire economic woes on the horizon it does seem utterly insane to evict perhaps as many as 400,000 essentially foreign 'tourists'. People who will continue to pile money into the economy and potentially travel / continue to travel around the place providing some much needed support for near destitute tourist reliant business around the country. Furthermore the government would need only slap a 2k baht fee on creating and renewing 30 or 60 day visas for those who are here and have been since April (and therefore pose NO risk re: Covid) which is effectively what they are going to do for people ENTERING from the outside world - people who in their eyes at least, DO pose more of a risk, so I ask again - why not boost their revenue substantially by doing this, rather than booting out billions of baht that they sure as hell won't get back any time soon from any foreign tourists with a laughable 14 day quarantine and god knows how many other asinine hoops to jump through! Typical Thai government thinking I'm afraid - one word for it - woolly. 

It would, appear that way to the uninitiated but the Thais know exactly what they are doing.

 

The economic crisis will be more than mitigated by the face the regime will gain from defeating the COVID-19 virus and getting rid of all the foreigners hanging on is just an added bonus. 

11 hours ago, genericptr said:

Admins: How can I block this user? Nagging anti-Tourist expats on the visa forum make posting here an unpleasant experience at times.

Right-click on their name and click ignore user. I've done it to a few. Unfortunately, you still see their comments if someone quotes them. I don't know of any way to avoid that.