Prime Minister sued by former immigration chief 'Big Joke' over transfer to PM’s Office

[rtco]

3 hours ago, Poet said:

I hold particular contempt for those Westerners who, out of some distorted understanding of the world and lack of basic human decency, act as sycophantic cheerleaders for such naked acts of criminality.

I'm with you. What I don't understand is their rationale about why they do it! The facts are there to be seen on a day to day basis yet they still look through their rose tinted glasses and see nothing being done wrong. They should remove those glasses and take a look at what's really happening out there ... the rich getting richer, the poor getting poorer, the lack-lustre economy (even before Covid), contemptable act in outlawing FF, continued endemic corruption, purchasing of unnecessary military hardware, the silencing of democracy activists ... need I go on?      

[thailand49]

Suing in Thailand?  IS THAT A BIG JOKE?????????????

[Nip]

4 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

The whole country has a right to accuse this person of "abuse of power".

From his initial, illegal act in 2014, his abuse has continued, purely for the benefit of himself and his cronies.

Indeed and every single foreign Embassy and Ambassador vindicated this illegal act. Most recently at the 4th of July celebration where despite the pandemic no masks were worn or social distancing carried out. At least not in the photos on Twitter. 

[JonnyF]

Big Joke got Da Big Kahunas.

 

Good luck to him. 

[mtls2005]

This doesn't seem to be as big a deal as some of our local pundits claim.

 

Surachate just needs a bit of publicity; he seems to thrive on that, and maybe he wants some sort of decision.

 

All the PM has to do is move the investigation forward. That might not be the best thing for Surachate?

 

The PM already got rid of Verachai, who was in league with Surachate.

 

He does hold some cards, but not sure he wants to ultimately play them. His "faction" within the RTP is not the strongest.

 

And it never ceases to amaze me that some here think he is some paragon of virtue. I guess PR works, for some.

 

[ThailandRyan]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

I doubt anything will come out of it. Khun Prayut will have all his ducks in a row on this.

Yet it would be a double standard with the last Prime minister and cabinet accused of sidelining another RTP top official, and being convicted of it.  Double standards are not allowed in this corrupt country where back hander envelopes assure promotions and transfers, and irritating just one person can end your career with a move to in inactive post without cause.

[miamiman123]

Big Joke was out of Thailand during that time .....where was he and who was he visiting? Does the initial TC mean anything to you. It’s not Take Care! 

[SupermarineS6B]

Ooooh, you can imagine the next conversation...... "Forget about the door, just aim a touch higher this time, while he's sat in".......... Bang bang !        How dumb can you get, it's a bit like trying to take Adolf to court..... 

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, steven100 said:

I doubt anything will come out of it. Khun Prayut will have all his ducks in a row on this.

Just hope Surachat isn't in the duck shoot like before.

[BestB]

For this to actually happen means there is a big hand behind big joke who is either looking to undermine big p or get rid of big p

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

 

Khun Prayut Chan O Cha won't be bothered about this, imo ... as mentioned he will have all his cards in order and this will end up being a waste of time.  

By cards in order you mean cards stacked against anyone because he has everyone in his back pocket?

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Why did he wait so long to file a case? Has he been compiling the evidence and needed to get others on his side

Perfect time to rock the boat, prudence says wait until the correct time.

He's on a slippery slope at the moment with many factions getting tired of him.

Just slip on another weight around his shoulders.

 

[johnarth]

you could get away with this in North Korea and China but Thai PM is on a slippery surface at the moment and big protests against him are gaining momentum, there will be a lot of high fliers watching their backs and not wanting to please the PM 100%

[mikosan]

I say, good luck to him.

[Mr Meeseeks]

1 hour ago, Nip said:

Indeed and every single foreign Embassy and Ambassador vindicated this illegal act. Most recently at the 4th of July celebration where despite the pandemic no masks were worn or social distancing carried out. At least not in the photos on Twitter. 

To be fair the US has a long history of supporting and propping these kinds of regimes in South East Asia including in Thailand, Cambodia and South Vietnam. 

[globerunner4]

On a side note, can someone recommend a good read to bring me up to speed on the current/past political situation here in Thailand? I'm aware of the big picture but not the nuances. Thanks

Edited September 23, 2020 by globerunner4

[Lacessit]

5 hours ago, Poet said:

Big Joke is a canny operator. That this complaint is being lodged now, one year and five months after the transfer, is an indication of just how tenuous insiders now regard Prayut's position to be.

Fingers crossed!

 

It does seem to coincide nicely with the current protests in Bangkok.

[phutoie2]

BJ the master of PR will have plenty of his own ducks. 

VOA scam, fast track scam, car leasing etc. 

Looking forward to the press conferences, if it even gets that far. 

 

[djayz]

5 hours ago, steven100 said:

 

Khun Prayut Chan O Cha won't be bothered about this, imo ... as mentioned he will have all his cards in order and this will end up being a waste of time.  

Challenging bullies is never a waste of time - irrespective of the outcome. They must understand that the people don't fear them. 

[klauskunkel]

5 hours ago, steven100 said:

Khun Prayut will have all his ducks in a row on this.

all his ducks and one toad

[John CS]

5 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

The whole country has a right to accuse this person of "abuse of power".

From his initial, illegal act in 2014, his abuse has continued, purely for the benefit of himself and his cronies.

Maybe the trigger for a coup?

[Tchooptip]

I think Big Joke must have perceived that Prayut is weakened somewhere, and given the position of Big Joke who necessarily has relationships given his former position, it is necessarily based on something, because not everything in the media transpires about what happens in the spheres of power. If it were otherwise, it is not certain that he would have taken this risk, because it is a risk, an indication will be if they talk about it a lot or very little on the TV channels.

[Thomas J]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Pol Lt-Gen Surachet Hakparn

He must figure that without doing something his career is over.  This is a effort that if successful he gets some money.  If he is not successful he may find himself planting rice. 

[jonclark]

1 hour ago, miamiman123 said:

Big Joke was out of Thailand during that time .....where was he and who was he visiting? Does the initial TC mean anything to you. It’s not Take Care! 

TC - That's my brother Tommy Clark's intitials - Big Joke was visiting my brother?? Tommy never mentioned that!

[Raymonddiaz]

I suspect this news to be just a divertissement. They want us to forget the students protests. Let's not be fooled by that! 

[Stevemercer]

Maybe Big Joke should seek asylum in Australia, like that other policeman who 'named names' in his investigation of people smuggling in southern Thailand.

[JusticeGB]

Probably good timing. The students held their rallies and weren't stopped. Prayut seems a bit weaker than before the Constitution may be rewritten all the top jobs in the army, navy and airforce are changing next month. Maybe BJ has some new allies.

[Docno]

4 hours ago, Matzzon said:

 

I am willing to agree with you on the point where nothing is going to come out of this. However, it´s hard to agree with your comment that he would have all his ducks in a row on this. Assuming that the accusation is right, and none of the authorities mentioned was assigned to investigate before or after he was removed from his duties. Is that not against lawful procedures? It might even be breaking both the law and the constitution as well as a big part of the Thai Labour Laws.

 

Would you please elaborate on that. I know that it´s going to be like dust hidden under the carpet, when they have come up with another excuse after another for the next two years. However, explain to me how you can be so sure that nothing has been done wrongfully in this case?

I was going to make the same argument, but you said it in a much more thoughtful way. The issue HERE is not whether Big Joke engaged in some kind of corruption but that he was moved to an inactive post well over a year ago without any formal investigation to validate/justify that transfer. It's quite black and white (and it's different from whether corruption took place, where you could have some evidence but not enough to prosecute). Then, as others point out, the next interesting question is 'why choose this time to take action'. Big Joke might smell blood in the water and he be finding more support in the back rooms than he had before. Time to buy some popcorn... 

[FarFlungFalang]

6 hours ago, steven100 said:

I doubt anything will come out of it. Khun Prayut will have all his ducks in a row on this.

Gee Steven I hope they're not sitting ducks!????

[Scott Tracy]

4 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Assuming that the accusation is right, and none of the authorities mentioned was assigned to investigate before or after he was removed from his duties. Is that not against lawful procedures? It might even be breaking both the law and the constitution as well as a big part of the Thai Labour Laws.

Since when has a coup been part of the lawful procedure? The PM will sail through this. He can change any law for his advantage, just like other PM's have done before.

 

be careful what you wish for.