Trump paid no income taxes in 10 of last 15 years - New York Times

[Morch]

Just now, Cod Face said:

"Someone who has called his supporters "disgusting" and if you were in the military he has also called you a "loser" and a "sucker".

Nonsense.  All of what you suggest he said has been debunked as being untrue.

 

That's not correct. At best, you can try and shoot for 'not proven', 'not verified' (and for the most part, you'd still be incorrect). As for "debunked as being untrue", though - only in Trump supporters' minds.

[Cod Face]

3 minutes ago, Morch said:

4 minutes ago, Cod Face said:

"Someone who has called his supporters "disgusting" and if you were in the military he has also called you a "loser" and a "sucker".

Nonsense.  All of what you suggest he said has been debunked as being untrue.

 

That's not correct. At best, you can try and shoot for 'not proven', 'not verified'

Ok, how about..."Nonsense.  None of what you suggest has ever been proven to be true"

[Morch]

4 minutes ago, Cod Face said:

"Many more examples over the last few years"

...of nothing but your absolute speculation if you have nothing to back up your accusations.

 

Now, I'm sure you'll find some new, inane, and irrelevant deflection, but here goes:

 

Mike Pence stayed at a Trump hotel 180 miles away from his Ireland meetings — for “safety”

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/3/20847247/mike-pence-ireland-doonbeg-trip-180-miles-away-trump-hotel

 

Pence's stay at Trump's Irish hotel shows corruption has become routine

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/05/trump-emoluments-corruption-mike-pence-hotel

 

Secret Service has paid rates as high as $650 a night for rooms at Trump’s properties

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-has-paid-rates-as-high-as-650-a-night-for-rooms-at-trumps-properties/2020/02/06/7f27a7c6-3ec5-11ea-8872-5df698785a4e_story.html

 

Report: Taxpayers Have Paid the Trump Organization Nearly $1 Million for Hotel Rooms Alone

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/taxpayers-have-paid-the-trump-organization-nearly-1-million-dollars-for-hotel-rooms

 

US taxpayers have shelled out at least $471,000 to Trump's properties since he became president, according to newly revealed documents

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-charges-secret-service-for-protection-hotel-properties-report-2020-2

 

Trump’s company charging his own Secret Service agents thousands to stay at Mar a Lago while they protect him

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-hotels-cost-night-secret-service-staff-charge-a9323631.html

 

New documents show Trump Organization has charged Secret Service $628,000 since 2017

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/486209-new-documents-show-trump-company-has-charged-secret-service-628000

[Morch]

7 minutes ago, Cod Face said:

Ok, how about..."Nonsense.  None of what you suggest has ever been proven to be true"

 

How's about getting back under your bridge? That's not what you originally claimed. And you don't even bother supporting your claims anyway. Just another Trump supporter on auto-defense-mode.

[cmarshall]

It's clear now the after Jan. 20 Biden's DoJ will have to prosecute Trump, much as they would rather not.  His lawbreaking has been too egregious for too long.  In the NYT article on his taxes we can see multiple crimes of tax evasion and bank fraud.  And the Times has promised that this is only the first of a series of articles based on Trump's tax and financial data.

 

But the Manhattan DA may get there first.  Either way Trump and his psychopath children are going to prison.

[Berkshire]

12 minutes ago, cmarshall said:

It's clear now the after Jan. 20 Biden's DoJ will have to prosecute Trump, much as they would rather not.  His lawbreaking has been too egregious for too long.  In the NYT article on his taxes we can see multiple crimes of tax evasion and bank fraud.  And the Times has promised that this is only the first of a series of articles based on Trump's tax and financial data.

 

But the Manhattan DA may get there first.  Either way Trump and his psychopath children are going to prison.

I honestly think that a President Biden would be hesitant to go after an ex-president.  It would set a dangerous precedent and he himself knows that a future Republican president may do the same.  But there's plenty of evidence that Trump has at minimum, broken state laws and can certainly be prosecuted for that.  If I were a betting man, I'd say the orange man will be in an orange jumpsuit not long after leaving office. 

[Stocky]

@BarackObama who wants to raise all our taxes, only pays 20.5% on $790k salary. http://t.co/bqF26mQf Do as I say not as I do.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 13, 2012

[Boon Mee]

Well, they absolutely positively have him now! 555 

As we all know quite well, the NYT is Fake News Central. 

[Berkshire]

10 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Well, they absolutely positively have him now! 555 

As we all know quite well, the NYT is Fake News Central. 

55555....as we all know by now, every time Trump yells "fake news," the allegations must be true. 

Edited September 28, 2020 by Berkshire

[Eric Loh]

4 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Well, they absolutely positively have him now! 555 

As we all know quite well, the NYT is Fake News Central. 

We know quite well that your president is a cheap-skate grifter. The whole world has a good giggle on this revelation. 

[Opl]

 

"Trump took Forbes on a tour of the penthouse during the presidential election and told the publication that it was the "best apartment ever built" and bragged about its 33,000-square-foot size and estimated value of at least $200 million. The trouble is, according to Forbes, "those comments were typical Trump: boastful and inaccurate." The residence is actually 10,996 square feet and worth an estimated $54 million."

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/real-estate/news/a9285/donald-trump-house-photos/

 

[pacovl46]

Well, why not lay open your tax reports then, if you’ve got nothing to hide?! 
 

 

[TooBigToFit]

Trump is a real model of a American Republican for all to follow. He dodged the draft, cheated on his taxes, cheated on his wives, made deals with the Russians, lied to the American people, discriminated against Black people in his housing and now openly threatens democracy in the US. Well done Donald Trump. May he suffer for his selfishness, greed and apathy after getting a boot inserted into his butt in the next election.

[DrTuner]

It's called tax planning. Every wealthy person does it. The question is, was it evasion? And that's why IRD is auditing the accounts.

[DrTuner]

2 hours ago, shdmn said:

He paid more for sex than he did in federal income tax.

That's the Male Tax.

[Phoenix Rising]

2 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

It's called tax planning. Every wealthy person does it. The question is, was it evasion? And that's why IRD is auditing the accounts.

Seems that's done and dusted.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-says-trumps-tax-returns-have-been-audited-ruining-excuse-2020-7

[JCauto]

7 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

It will be once again humourous to see all the posters come out and uncritically treat this news as "truth."  Is this another hit piece in the vein of Trump calling vets losers and suckers or the Russians paying the Taliban a bounty to kill U.S. troops?  Seems all of these unfounded accusations experience shorter and shorter shelf lives.

 

Let's see how long the "veracity" of this hit piece lasts.

Yes, especially now that the "losers and suckers" and the Taliban bounty story have been thoroughly debunked. Right? Er...you wouldn't happen to have a link to those debunking stories would you? I can't seem to find them online.

I guess you also think that simple declarations that something isn't true without any accompanying evidence is a sound technique. You should try it with the IRS also, see how far it gets you.

[stevenl]

3 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

It's called tax planning. Every wealthy person does it. The question is, was it evasion? And that's why IRD is auditing the accounts.

But Trump is not a wealthy person, so he should be paying like all other peasants.

[DrTuner]

1 minute ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Seems that's done and dusted.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-says-trumps-tax-returns-have-been-audited-ruining-excuse-2020-7

Ok, then it's likely legal. Ethics are another matter, up to the voters if they care or not.

[Sujo]

37 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Well, they absolutely positively have him now! 555 

As we all know quite well, the NYT is Fake News Central. 

Should be quite easy for him to sue them then. 

[stevenl]

3 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Ok, then it's likely legal. Ethics are another matter, up to the voters if they care or not.

Time for you to read the op, many illegalities involved.

[new2here]

I have no idea if this report is true or not... but what strikes me here is the timing... given that pretty much everything today is or quickly becomes politicized - and after that, it tend to be polarizing; the timing of this news, to me, seems questionable... 

 

To me, so long as he followed the tax law - whatever it is/was, then that’s fine... sure, hearing that he *may* have paid little to no income taxes gives off a negative vibe, i can’t besmirch anyone who takes full, legal, advantage of the tax law to minimize their liability... 

[Sujo]

Of course the small matter of ivanka being an executive and trump paying her as a consultant to lessen his tax.

[KarenBravo]

5 hours ago, sucit said:

Trump actually has this one right. I admire anyone who legally gets away with not paying their fair share of taxes. The more we pay the more we encourage government waste. 

 

Who are we trying to kid here? Is anyone really saying they would side with the irs? Anybody screwing the irs is a hero. 

Legally? He lied about his business circumstances. It's called fraud.

No one is siding with the IRS, but if I was a hard-working nurse, I would have to pay 10 times the tax that Trump paid.

People aren't pro-IRS, they are against unfairness. I thought that would be obvious to everyone, but apparently not.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, RoadWarrior371 said:

Funny how the USA is in shambles every 4 years right about election time according to the leftist media, and the uneducated masses gobble it up.

 

The rest of us are limping along with record stock market gains, record bonuses, record low interest rates.  Basically printing cash this year.   More shambles please..... ????

I take it you are not one of the millions of hard working Americans living hand to mouth, falling behind mortgage/rent payments, unable to afford health care insurance and with no savings to call on in an emergency. Or at least, so you would have us believe.

[TheFishman1]

Send him to jail for tax evasion and over 200,000 US citizens die

[bodga]

so  what, anyone with any  money will  avoid  tax at  all costs.

[FritsSikkink]

7 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

What I find fascinating is this concern over his tax returns.  I really don't care.  If the IRS thinks they are correct and he is paying his legally obligated taxes good enough for me.  I do know the left wants to see them so they can (as usual) twist them to indicate something nefarious.  And the average human won't have a chance in hell of comprehending tax returns at that level.

 

Better still I would like to know how so many people in congress enter service poor and end up rich on congressional/senate pay.  How bout some investigation into that? 

Would be interesting to know what he told the banks he was making when applying for a loan.

[Phoenix Rising]

36 minutes ago, TheFishman1 said:

Send him to jail for tax evasion and over 200,000 US citizens die

Sounds good to me but let him finish his 298th round of golf first!

 

'With 200K Dead, Trump Spews Lies Then Golfs for the 298th Time During His Presidency'

[Phoenix Rising]

14 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Would be interesting to know what he told the banks he was making when applying for a loan.

What would be really interesting is to find out what the German banks know about his monkey business dealings in Russia. That would reveal what dirt Putin has on him and how he turned him into a straight up traitor.