U.S. President Trump and Melania test positive for COVID-19

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11 minutes ago, RocketDog said:

 

I note that in the 30 odd pages of this forum so far very few Trump supporters have had anything to say. Their silence in fact speaks volumes. 

 

 

 

Terrible, bad news for the Americans one after another this week. 

 

// The Worst American Presidential debate.

// Secretary Pompeo was humiliated by Pope Francis.

// Trump and wife tested positive 

// Trump headed to hospital.  

 

 

[Pib]

7 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Kellyanne Conway has announced she has tested positive for Covid-19

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/02/politics/kellyanne-conway-positive-for-covid-19/index.html

And I'm sure there will be more of Trump's inter circle to come down with COVID over the coming two weeks.   An inter circle that ignores social distancing and masks precautions.

[polpott]

4 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Kellyanne Conway has announced she has tested positive for Covid-19

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/02/politics/kellyanne-conway-positive-for-covid-19/index.html

Looks like the Rose Garden event last Saturday, to confirm Barrett's nomination to the Supreme Court is the source of infection. Now six attendees have Covid. Why hasn't Billy Baa got it? There's still time, I suppose or is he the asymptomatic superspreader?

[Tagged]

5 minutes ago, TKDfella said:

Not being American, I don't actually know Pres. Trump as a person. I did see various episodes of, was it 'The Apprentice' or just 'Apprentice'. Never really cared for his manner or approach but then in no way am I a business-minded person. Perhaps that's what it takes, I don't know. Certainly, in recent videos, on a personal level, he appears to be an arrogant individual which I find distasteful but then again there are actors that off screen personally likewise distasteful but admire on screen acting. 

People hate Obama, people hate Bill Gates, and The same people love Trump. 

 

Nothing more to add

[TKDfella]

10 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I don't wish Trump dead, I wish him seriously ill, recovered in time to be soundly defeated and after that thoroughly investigated for possible crimes committed.

 

Trump's and entourage illness was preventable.

To wish anyone seriously is lowering your esteem and integrity to the appropriate level you have considered that person to be. Sad to see such a dark vengeful outlook.

[polpott]

3 minutes ago, TKDfella said:

To wish anyone seriously is lowering your esteem and integrity to the appropriate level you have considered that person to be. Sad to see such a dark vengeful outlook.

"Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord" and Trump and his entourage all come down with Covid. Its a sign from God. Those bible belters will all be voting Biden now.

[stevenl]

5 minutes ago, TKDfella said:

To wish anyone seriously is lowering your esteem and integrity to the appropriate level you have considered that person to be. Sad to see such a dark vengeful outlook.

Disagree, I hope it will make him a better man with empathy for other human beings. So not vengeful at all, but hopeful his darkness can be turned into lightness.

[TKDfella]

1 minute ago, polpott said:

"Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord" and Trump and his entourage all come down with Covid. Its a sign from God. Those bible belters will all be voting Biden now.

I am not religious so means nothing to me.

[Pib]

And during the debate, although the Trump family/guests walked in wearing masks, once seating down they took the masks off.  Complete violation of debate attendance rules.  But that should be of no surprise as Trump and crew simply ignore rules they don't like although saying it rules others should follow....rules others have agreed to follow.

 

[xylophone]

55 minutes ago, Tagged said:

The good thing, he do volounteer for not proven treatment, and has received a single 8 gram dose of Regeneron's polyclonal antibody cocktail that still is undergoing a clinical trial. 

 

I do not know if that means they do take it serous, or thay by now, know it is safe. Exiting times. 

 

 

Get well mr President. 

 

 

 

Such an odious, disgusting excuse for a human being, and he has mocked HC for having pneumonia, as well as a reporter for having a disability, and belittled Biden for wearing a mask......and now he is sick!!

 

Perhaps he could get Pompeo to have a word in the Pope's ear........oh, seems like the Pope doesn't want to participate in this man's circus. LOL.

 

 

 

 

 

[stevenl]

Just now, Pib said:

And during the debate, although the Trump family/guests walked in wearing masks, once seating down they took the masks off.  Complete violation of debate attendance rules.  But that should be of no surprise as Trump and crew simply ignore rules they don't like although saying it rules others should follow....rules others have agreed to follow.

 

Afaik it was only Melania who wore a mask on entering, the others didn't, and yes, of course all including Melania refused to wear one once seated, even after being requested to wear one.

[Jingthing]

Well by now its clear that 45 is not an asymptomatic case. That's not surprising or any reason to jump to dire conclusions. Moving him to Bethesda makes perfect sense as its well known that Covid-19 victims can deteriorate very very quickly. So he's going to get the best care possible which unfortunately can't be said about the great majority of American people. 

 

Keep in mind this is still early. Its not uncommon for patients to go into crisis two weeks later.

 

Even with his poor profile of being aged and obese statistically he is likely to survive. 

 

However assuming he does survive until at least election day I think the American people deserve the full story of his health condition and I'm certain we won't get it.

Why? Because its quite possible that 45 will suffer permanent damage to his organs, heart, brain, and kidneys. If doctors know that before election day I have zero confidence that the people will be be told. Yet you can bet the house the 45 fans will continue to throw unsubstantiated slurs at Biden for dementia. The American voters deserve better.

[TKDfella]

Just now, stevenl said:

Disagree, I hope it will make him a better man with empathy for other human beings. So not vengeful at all, but hopeful his darkness can be turned into lightness.

Whoa there, you can't turn around on wishing someone seriously ill. You wrote it and that problem is yours...no matter how you twist it.

[stevenl]

4 minutes ago, TKDfella said:

Whoa there, you can't turn around on wishing someone seriously ill. You wrote it and that problem is yours...no matter how you twist it.

Not turning around at all. I wish him seriously ill, recover on time to be soundly defeated, get investigated for possible crimes, and hope this illness will help him become a more empathic person.

Hopeful on all aspects, but doubt the latter 

Edited October 3, 2020 by stevenl

[TKDfella]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Well by now its clear that 45 is not an asymptomatic case. That's not surprising or any reason to jump to dire conclusions. Moving him to Bethesda makes perfect sense as its well known that Covid-19 victims can deteriorate very very quickly. So he's going to get the best care possible which unfortunately can't be said about the great majority of American people. 

 

Keep in mind this is still early. Its not uncommon for patients to go into crisis two weeks later.

 

Even with his poor profile of being aged and obese statistically he is likely to survive. 

 

However assuming he does survive until at least election day I think the American people deserve the full story of his health condition and I'm certain we won't get it.

Why? Because its quite possible that 45 will suffer permanent damage to his organs, heart, brain, and kidneys. If doctors know that before election day I have zero confidence that the people will be be told. Yet you can bet the house the 45 fans will continue to throw unsubstantiated slurs at Biden for dementia. The American voters deserve better.

It does seem that Pres. Trump has not taken care of his physical state and at his age it may turn serious.

[Sujo]

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Afaik it was only Melania who wore a mask on entering, the others didn't, and yes, of course all including Melania refused to wear one once seated, even after being requested to wear one.

They should have been kicked out.

[Tagged]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Well by now its clear that 45 is not an asymptomatic case. That's not surprising or any reason to jump to dire conclusions. Moving him to Bethesda makes perfect sense as its well known that Covid-19 victims can deteriorate very very quickly. So he's going to get the best care possible which unfortunately can't be said about the great majority of American people. 

 

Keep in mind this is still early. Its not uncommon for patients to go into crisis two weeks later.

 

Even with his poor profile of being aged and obese statistically he is likely to survive. 

 

However assuming he does survive until at least election day I think the American people deserve the full story of his health condition and I'm certain we won't get it.

Why? Because its quite possible that 45 will suffer permanent damage to his organs, heart, brain, and kidneys. If doctors know that before election day I have zero confidence that the people will be be told. Yet you can bet the house the 45 fans will continue to throw unsubstantiated slurs at Biden for dementia. The American voters deserve better.

I thought everyone by now, know this covid 19, is just a hoax. 

 

However BBC claim now Trump never said it was a hoax. False news again

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-54387438

[Sujo]

3 minutes ago, TKDfella said:

It does seem that Pres. Trump has not taken care of his physical state and at his age it may turn serious.

He only has himself to blame.

[Tippaporn]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

U.S. President Trump and Melania test positive for COVID-19

Wow.  33 pages already.  Not much worth talking about regarding this headline as far as I'm concerned since so little is known.  But it sure does provide for endless speculation on a number of issues and how they might be affected.

 

Other than that my only other comment is to say how sad it is to see so many here and elsewhere whose politics trumps their humanity and cheerfully express their ill wishes and hopes for a bad outcome for Trump.  These types of people should never be allowed to wield the levers of power.

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Not turning around at all. I wish him seriously ill, recover on time to be soundly defeated, get investigated for possible crimes, and hope this illness will help him become a more empathic person.

Hopeful on all aspects, but doubt the latter 

He'll never be an empathetic person. Forget about that.

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:

Wow.  33 pages already.  Not much worth talking about regarding this headline as far as I'm concerned since so little is known.  But it sure does provide for endless speculation on a number of issues and how they might be affected.

 

Other than that my only other comment is to say how sad it is to see so many here and elsewhere whose politics trumps their humanity and cheerfully express their ill wishes and hopes for a bad outcome for Trump.  These types of people should never be allowed to wield the levers of power.

Like Trump you mean, with his HC mocking?

[stevenl]

6 minutes ago, Tagged said:

I thought everyone by now, know this covid 19, is just a hoax. 

 

However BBC claim now Trump never said it was a hoax. False news again

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-54387438

No. Bbc says : 'Trump never said it was a hoax and other false claims'. So the opposite of your claim.

 

Correction: in the article itself they do claim as you state.

Edited October 3, 2020 by stevenl

[polpott]

4 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Other than that my only other comment is to say how sad it is to see so many here and elsewhere whose politics trumps their humanity and cheerfully express their ill wishes and hopes for a bad outcome for Trump.  These types of people should never be allowed to wield the levers of power.

I don't wield the levers of power, my wife does.

[Tippaporn]

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Like Trump you mean, with his HC mocking?

People can choose from any number of endless excuses to justify their ill will.  So sad.

[stevenl]

2 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

People can choose from any number of endless excuses to justify their ill will.  So sad.

So again you're saying Trump should not wield the levers of power, after his mocking if HC.

[polpott]

4 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

People can choose from any number of endless excuses to justify their ill will.  So sad.

Yes we've seen trump do it, endlessly.

[Opl]

8 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Wow.  33 pages already.  Not much worth talking about regarding this headline as far as I'm concerned since so little is known.  But it sure does provide for endless speculation on a number of issues and how they might be affected.

 

Other than that my only other comment is to say how sad it is to see so many here and elsewhere whose politics trumps their humanity and cheerfully express their ill wishes and hopes for a bad outcome for Trump.  These types of people should never be allowed to wield the levers of power.

it was avoidable (but not his political choice, ie  Trump campaign had social distancing stickers removed before Tulsa rally. ) so it became predictable (coronavirus waivers), decisions have consequences, no need for hypocrisy, 

[newnative]

    Sorry, I'm finding it difficult to muster any sympathy.  All year he has refused to wear a mask and, worse, made wearing a mask a badge of disloyalty to him.  So utterly ridiculous that wearing a mask became politicized in America, thanks to Trump.  A leader leads by example.  How many fewer deaths would America have if Trump had worn a mask from Day 1 and repeatedly stressed the importance of nationwide mask usage when in public.   Instead, 200,000 dead, the worst record in the World. 

    Sorry, no sympathy for someone so completely selfish.  You wear a mask not just to protect yourself but to also protect others from yourself.  A President comes into contact with hundreds and hundreds of people--especially in an election year.  So selfish to expose all those people--and then all the people they come in contact with, including loved ones--just to make some sort of ignorant, misguided point--I'm not even sure what.  Perhaps just vanity.  Not liking the look--how many times has he viciously ridiculed how Biden looks every time he is seen wearing a mask.  I think the last time he even criticized and ridiculed the size of the mask.  Sorry, no sympathy for someone so disdainful, so reckless, so selfish, so willfully ignorant, and so willing to put the health of so many others at grave risk.

[Tippaporn]

Lots of replies to my comment.  So to everyone.  Whether anyone else promotes ill will it can never be used to justify your own.  In doing so you simply become what you hate.

[Tagged]

If you looking for a sign from above, karma,  justice,

 

this is the time!

 

If he is walking out from that hospital on his own feet the next 2 weeks, there is no justice or karma. Can not speak for god, since he works in mysterious ways

Edited October 3, 2020 by Tagged