Messages for sick Trump split between "get well" and "told you so"

 

U.S. President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump arrive at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport to participate in the first presidential debate with Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden in Cleveland, Ohio, U.S., September 29, 2020. Picture taken September 29, 2020. REUTERS/Carlos Barria

 

(Reuters) - Get well messages for U.S. President Donald Trump poured in from foreign capitals on Friday after he and his wife tested positive for the coronavirus, but some had little sympathy for a leader whose response to the pandemic has been widely criticised.

 

Trump, who might be voted out of office on Nov. 3, denies accusations that he downplayed the severity of the outbreak as the world's most powerful nation also became the worst hit, accounting for around 20% of a global death toll that crossed a million this week.

 

Most diplomatic responses to news that Trump, 74, and his wife Melania had tested positive for COVID-19 observed the niceties, while governments everywhere assessed how it might impact the outcome of next month's U.S. election.

 

"COVID-19 is a battle we all continue to fight. Everyday. No matter where we live," European Council President Charles Michel said in a tweet, wishing America's First Couple a speedy recovery.

 

But disappointed by Washington's leadership during the global health crisis, some messages were laced with stinging barbs.

"This demonstrates that the virus spares no one, including those who have shown scepticism. I wish him a swift recovery,” said Gabriel Attal, spokesman for the French government.

 

If one of the United States most important NATO allies sounded somewhat terse, there was no hiding the bitter satisfaction evident in China's state-controlled media following news that their country's chief antagonist had joined the COVID sick list.

 

"President Trump and the first lady have paid the price for his gamble to play down the COVID-19," tweeted Hu Xijin, editor in chief of China's Global Times newspaper.

 

"The news shows the severity of the US’s pandemic situation. It will impose a negative impact on the image of Trump and the US, and may also negatively affect his reelection."

 

Barely two weeks ago, Trump had told the U.N. General Assembly that China, where the virus first emerged late last year, should be held accountable for unleashing "this plague on the world".

 

But it was just two days ago, during the acrimonious presidential debate that Democratic rival Joe Biden excoriated Trump for his handling of the crisis at home.

 

Having assured Americans in January that the looming threat of the disease spreading out of China was "totally under control, and told them in February, that the virus would disappear one day "like a miracle", Trump tested their credulity in April by suggesting the possibility that disinfectant could be injected to clean out the virus.

 

The China Daily, the country's official English language newspaper, piled on:

 

"Since it emerged earlier this year, Trump, the White House and his campaign have played down the threat and refused to abide by basic public health guidelines — including those issued by his own administration — such as wearing masks in public and practicing social distancing. Instead, Trump has continued to hold campaign rallies that draw thousands of supporters. The virus has killed more than 200,000 Americans and infected more than 7 million nationwide."

 

Warmth and concern for Trump was more plentiful in Israel and Taiwan, two governments that treasure their friendship with the United States.

 

"Like millions of Israelis, Sara and I are thinking of President Donald Trump and First Lady Melania Trump and wish our friends a full and speedy recovery," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu tweeted, referring to his wife.

 

"The government & people of Taiwan stand with the U.S. at this testing time," Taiwan's foreign ministry said in a statement.

 

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I wish him well, because finally we got some positiv news from the POTUS.

old fatties may have issues 

"Som Nam Na".

8 minutes ago, CHdiver said:

I wish him well, because finally we got some positiv news from the POTUS.

     Positive news are better than lies. 

Clearly hasn't been drinking enough Dettol.

A post with a gratuitous meme has been removed.   This is a discussion forum.  

I don’t wish I’ll health on anyone, including Trump.

 

But If he is ill, I don’t have any sympathy for him either.

 

It is what it is.

 

 

Edited October 2, 20205 yr by Chomper Higgot

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I don’t wish I’ll health on anyone, including Trump.

 

 

 

 

I do and I think that most of the world do.

22 minutes ago, fishtank said:

I do and I think that most of the world do.

Its an awkward moral space. Like if Kim of NK became ill would most of the world empathize or celebrate? 45 might not be as bad as Kim but to most there is little doubt that he's a very negative force in the world. 

 

Plenty more Russian agents available.

Vaguely remembered Desmond Tutu saying "Serves them right" and while I was doing a bit of research I found that he also summarised the first Trump/Biden debate 25 years ahead of time:

 

“Don’t raise your voice. Improve your argument. Good sense does not always lie with the loudest shouters, nor can we say that a large, unruly crowd is always the best arbiter of what is right.”

And STILL the idiot proves that he's a liar.......

"Trump, who might be voted out of office on Nov. 3, denies accusations that he downplayed the severity of the outbreak......................."

 

How can he possibly deny something that is so fresh in recent history?

Beggars belief! ????

 

I don't usually wish ill-health on people...... but in Trump and a very few other people, I'm willing to make an exception!

Edited October 2, 20205 yr by VBF

warm message from Russia

"“I am certain that your inherent vitality, good spirits and optimism will help you cope with this dangerous virus,” Mr Putin said in the telegram, according to the Interfax news agency."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/putin-trump-coronavirus-test-positive-melania-russia-kremlin-covid-b745029.html

 

 

Edited October 2, 20205 yr by Opl

When most guys his age are safely sheltering at home, his job demands that he constantly travel and mix with a large number of people every day.

His role is partly symbolic and important to the morale of the nation, so, he does not have the option to hide in a basement.

Whatever you may think of him personally, he and his wife caught this virus while doing the job that America asked them to do. They deserve better than the nasty, politically-driven narrative that Trump is personally responsible for the pandemic and that the Democrats would somehow have handled things better.

 

3 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

there was no hiding the bitter satisfaction evident in China's state-controlled media following news that their country's chief antagonist had joined the COVID sick list.

The Chinese Communist Party should indeed be satisfied. This may end up being the first long-distance, slow-motion assassination of an enemy head of state.

 

3 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

"This demonstrates that the virus spares no one, including those who have shown scepticism. I wish him a swift recovery,” said Gabriel Attal, spokesman for the French government.

I don't normally agree with the French view of things...but I'm okay with this, apart from the "I wish him a swift recovery” bit  ????

4 minutes ago, donnacha said:

When most guys his age are safely sheltering at home, his job demands that he constantly travel and mix with a large number of people every day.

His role is partly symbolic and important to the morale of the nation, so, he does not have the option to hide in a basement.

Whatever you may think of him personally, he and his wife caught this virus while doing the job that America asked them to do. They deserve better than the nasty, politically-driven narrative that Trump is personally responsible for the pandemic and that the Democrats would somehow have handled things better.

 

Bolsonaro, B.Johnson, Trump, all populist leaders

1 minute ago, Opl said:

Bolsonaro, B.Johnson, Trump, all populist leaders

What is your point?

1 minute ago, donnacha said:

The Chinese Communist Party should indeed be satisfied. This may end up being the first long-distance, slow-motion assassination of an enemy head of state.

The scrutiny on the origin and spread of this virus will be orders of magnitude higher than it already is if Trumps health deteriorates in any way.

 

Imagine President Bush was inside the Twin Towers or the Pentagon on 9/11 - that's the level of 'scrutiny' I would expect.

Just now, donnacha said:

What is your point?

I believe they are targets.

1 minute ago, ukrules said:

I believe they are targets.

I'm not sure if that was @Opl's point.

I would say that China clearly took steps to restrict the spread of the virus within China while continuing to allow it to spread out of China, specifically pressuring the W.H.O. to echo China's official line rather than what the W.H.O.'s own people in China were reporting to it.

I don't think they were targeting particular people, just competing economies in general.

 

1 minute ago, donnacha said:

I'm not sure if that was @Opl's point.

I would say that China clearly took steps to restrict the spread of the virus within China while continuing to allow it to spread out of China, specifically pressuring the W.H.O. to echo China's official line rather than what the W.H.O.'s own people in China were reporting to it.

I don't think they were targeting particular people, just competing economies in general.

 

the job description you gave is the populist leader's one, cheerleader, crowds as large as possible + virus .. all 3 tested positive to covid ( and I'd add the Ostrich alliance).

    

21 minutes ago, Neilly said:

I don't normally agree with the French view of things...but I'm okay with this, apart from the "I wish him a swift recovery” bit  ????

Personally, I think the French response was vile and disgusting. They should have emulated the example set by this classy gentleman in response to learning that someone was suffering from pneumonia. 

 

 

Edited October 2, 20205 yr by serenedion

15 minutes ago, Opl said:

the job description you gave is the populist leader's one, cheerleader, crowds as large as possible + virus

A rather tenuous theory. By that logic, the presidents of Guatemala, Hondurus, and Bolivia would all have to be populists too, along with Prince Charles and Micheal Barnier, the chief EU negotiator.

Perhaps the decent thing to do, when another human is unlucky enough to get infected, is to pause the hate for a couple of days and express some sympathy.

 

Edited October 2, 20205 yr by donnacha

28 minutes ago, donnacha said:

The Chinese Communist Party should indeed be satisfied. This may end up being the first long-distance, slow-motion assassination of an enemy head of state.

 

Yes an heroic president who bravely bared his face against the enemy's onslaught again and again and again and again...

2 minutes ago, donnacha said:

A rather tenuous theory. By that logic, the presidents of Guatemala, Hondurus, and Bolivia would all have to be populists too, along with Prince Charles and Micheal Barnier, the chief EU negotiator.

Perhaps the more decent thing to do, when another human is unlucky enough to get infected, is to pause the hate and express some sympathy.

 

see the post immediately above yours.

5 minutes ago, donnacha said:

A rather tenuous theory. By that logic, the presidents of Guatemala, Hondurus, and Bolivia would all have to be populists too, along with Prince Charles and Micheal Barnier, the chief EU negotiator.

Perhaps the more decent thing to do, when another human is unlucky enough to get infected, is to pause the hate and express some sympathy.

 

facing facts isn't comfortable, you went out of topic, you got the reply you asked for because I'm polite, and I'd appreciate you not to alter my post when you quote it

Edited October 2, 20205 yr by Opl

Just now, serenedion said:

Yes an heroic president who bravely bared his face against the enemy's onslaught again and again and again and again...

Yes. He was the first American president to make the plight of the Uighirs a matter of official policy. Most of his predecessors said nothing about many human rights issues involving China because they were too worried about upsetting the applecart.

Among those who actually care about human rights, even left-wingers admit that this aspect of his presidency has had good consequences.

 

 

11 minutes ago, Opl said:

I'd appreciate you not to alter my post when you quote it

I didn't. What do you mean?

Here is a screenshot of your post, I did not, and would never, alter anyone's words:

Edited October 2, 20205 yr by donnacha