22 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Thais are right to fear tourists returning in terms of health risk.

 

With little or no immunity, due to the rigorous lockdown plus the lack of an effective vaccine, covid19 would rip through the population if it gets a toe hold.

What if it does? The vast, vast majority of those affected will recover in about 3 or 4 weeks.

22 hours ago, Brunolem said:

Thailand is playing a very dangerous game and is in the process of irreversibly destroy its tourism industry.

 

First, there is a developing xenophobia within the population, which is not really needed.

 

Fear of the stranger, for whatever reason, is never good.

 

What if foreigners started developing similar feelings regarding Thais, and didn't let them into their countries, especially for work?

 

Then there is the image Thailand is projecting.

 

What are these Chinese who had jumped through all the hoops before their trip was cancelled at the last minute going to think, and tell their friends, including all those on their social websites?

 

Something like "don't bother and go spend your money elsewhere"...

 

 

It's not only in Thailand as this predicament is a worldwide dilemma facing countries.Do we open up?Who do we open up to and to whom?Australia for example is fighting with itself over this very question(and amongst itself)at all levels of government.I think the straw that breaks the camels back will be in another 3/6 months if we all are in the same place and no vaccine is out there.How long can you close your borders for and lock people down or impse restrictions for if there is no end or hope..or meaningful employment also?

Who cares about the majority? I just want the honeys to want my moneys. 8 ^)  I know the government does but they are shy about it They pretend to fear me while secretly desiring my moneys.

 

 

It would be interesting if they did a poll and just asked foreigners the questions and see what results they get.

I sometimes think that the tourism industry would be more than happy for tourists to arrive, leave their spending money at the airport which would be distributed accordingly and then flew home on the next available aircraft, it would be a bumper easy year for the sector and then when TAT added 5% for next year's arrivals and no one turned up how that would be viewed. They, the powers that be seem to me to be doing their very best to kill the golden goose of tourism in Thailand. Travellers have a world to choose from with plenty of places with easier access and less draconian laws no monk days to deprive one of a beverage on arrival.

On 10/7/2020 at 8:04 PM, webfact said:

1,318 respondents

 

Ah, speaking for the other 67 million.

 

So much for sensationalist headline ' Majority of Thais '

 

Utter BS

3 hours ago, robblok said:

. Too many polls all pointing to the same thing.

Can you remind us and provide a link to all these polls?

2 hours ago, David Garden said:

Do we have to jeopardize Thailand in easily allowing foreigners coming from reputed dizzy countries ? 

NO NO NO !

Strict policies and limited numbers rules to keep the situation under control !

Pattaya , Samui and so on are not the priority at all ... it is just common sense !

 

 

“We” ????

 

Another “dizzy” foreigner who thinks he is Thai and has a say in what they decide. 

46 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Can you remind us and provide a link to all these polls?

Why would I been in the news multiple times on this forum. Go back in the history and you can find it. This discussion has been done to death. Each topic its the same its like dejavu. Really just go through history a bit and you will find multiple of these polls about opening up Thailand in the recent history of the forum. 

8 minutes ago, robblok said:

Why would I been in the news multiple times on this forum. Go back in the history and you can find it. This discussion has been done to death. Each topic its the same its like dejavu. Really just go through history a bit and you will find multiple of these polls about opening up Thailand in the recent history of the forum. 

Why would you? Because you’re the one constantly quoting about all these “many polls”

 

So to use your term, BS then. 

On 10/8/2020 at 10:19 AM, CelticBhoy said:

"The Nida poll had a sample size of 1,318 respondents"

Out of a population of nearly 70 million! Come on, make an effort! 

"There are lies, damn lies and statistics".  If that poll was truly reflective of the Thailand demographics (roughly 50/50 urban/rural), I'd bet that the 30-odd million rural folks couldn't care less as the tourism industry is a world away for them.  They would also have no idea how the lack of tourists and their spending actually affects their day to day lives by way of government spending.   

 

 

On 10/8/2020 at 10:29 AM, Sharp said:

Go ask the Essan farming families who now have extra mouths to feed from returnees formerly employed in Tourists hotpots with no additional income I've seen it for myself what they would say!! 

Very true.  In my wife's village I've seen a prime example.  Pre covid a farang and his Thai gf went to UK for a family visit, planning to stay for a couple of months.  The world is then turned upside down.  She comes back to Thailand, and as there is no work for her in the "hospitality" sector, she sells the condo in Pattaya as stupid as it may seem, it was in her name.  I don't know if the boyfriend knows what's gone on, but either way he's stuffed - he can't get here and if eventually he does, she's done nothing illegal Q.E.D.  

39 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Why would you? Because you’re the one constantly quoting about all these “many polls”

 

So to use your term, BS then. 

No B.S. at all there have been at least 3 of these polls already. I am just not in the mood to dig it all up. If you had followed this you would have seen many polls all the time when they are talking about opening the country up again.

 

14 jun in BKK post

The one now and Ill look for others. Bit busy now. But there have been multiple. Every time they talk about reopening Thais protests.

 

September 20th resistance from locals against opening up Phuket

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/new-grand-plan-to-bring-tourists-back-to-thailand-in-fallout-of-covid-19/

 

See last paragraph.

 

All reopening plans have met with resistance.

3 hours ago, possum1931 said:

What if it does? The vast, vast majority of those affected will recover in about 3 or 4 weeks.

The problem is that here EVERYONE is hospitalised that becomes infected. Of it does take a foothold, people will have to isolate at home as hospitale beds are very limited. And we have seen around the world how well that works. 

1 hour ago, robblok said:

No B.S. at all there have been at least 3 of these polls already. I am just not in the mood to dig it all up. If you had followed this you would have seen many polls all the time when they are talking about opening the country up again.

 

14 jun in BKK post

The one now and Ill look for others. Bit busy now. But there have been multiple. Every time they talk about reopening Thais protests.

 

September 20th resistance from locals against opening up Phuket

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/new-grand-plan-to-bring-tourists-back-to-thailand-in-fallout-of-covid-19/

 

See last paragraph.

 

All reopening plans have met with resistance.

I have followed it but I dont recall the publication of “multiple”polls where Thais have protested so I look forward to seeing your links to these. 
 

The link you have added is just a few words in a newspaper article so obviously not one of the many polls you were referring to. 
 

cheers

Fair enough. Don't allow tourists.

But please allow retirees with own homes and cars sitting locked up and rotting in Thailand, those of us who happened to return to our home countries to visit family and now cannot re-enter, despite having all the extensions of stay.

There HAS to be a difference between long stayers and tourists.

6 hours ago, robblok said:

I think your just one of those covid fools or maybe a farang wanting to get back. Nothing wrong about that but just admit it.

Nope, I believe covid is the biggest thing to happen in a very long time and I have zero interest in getting back to Thailand

 

6 hours ago, robblok said:

Fact is these polls have been made and done good, there is no way to prove otherwise. But then again people like you only want democracy when it is in their favor. The moment the people don't say what you want to hear its fake.

Nope, the behaviour of 'your' junta and the unbelievable numbers they have spouted through their numerous polls clearly show this, their manipulation of the press, judiciary and every aspect of peoples lives' clearly show this, nope I believe democracy is not a colour, it either is or it isn't, not hard really...

 

6 hours ago, robblok said:

Of course there is a ripple effect but its the same in all countries. People are happy that they have been spared from the virus and that lockdowns are gone. They don't want to import covid and go back to the way it was with FAR MORE effect on the economy.

Nope 'your' junta do not want western tourism hence their campaign to scare the serfs and create xenophobia and their archaic sufficiency society, covid is an absolute gift for them they continue to get rich whilst sowing fear, their only fear of covid is their loss of face if it gets bad

 

6 hours ago, robblok said:

The junta did a good job, just covid deniers and people depending on tourism and those stranded out desperate to get in seem to think otherwise.

7 hours ago, robblok said:

Not sure in what group you belong yet

 

Nope, 'your' junta have done jack <deleted>, they have used covid to assist their own aim of taking Thailand back in time and gaining total control of the peasants. They have absolutely no care for their people, they care nothing for people out of work or affected by this, they love it!!

 

I belong to the group that does not condone dictatorship, I call out hypocrites and despise bullies, how about you... 

Absolutely nonsense! Majority of Thais say no? Really? This poll is irrelevant. BUT, my little poll of my Thai friends is 100% want farrang in thailand. 

(Q) Do you want dirty farang visiting Thailand: answser Y or N

I think a response is how the question is asked

There is covid 19 in thailand fear is visitors are going to expose it. and they will lose face

On 10/8/2020 at 10:34 AM, rkidlad said:

Capital letters and an exclamation mark. Did they really answer the question with such ferocity? 

it's because of all the old ****s  that are hard of hearing.. lol

On 10/8/2020 at 10:10 AM, Thaiwrath said:

I think it is obvious,  most of those polled have no connection on the tourist industry, are fully employed, and could not give a flying <deleted> about anyone else.

Equally obvious is that self-interest is alive and well in the human genome. No big surprise. Humans have always walked a thin line between cooperation and competition. 

 

So unless you question the poll methodology this really is democracy at work. The majority of the people in a country control the country policy; as it should be. 

 

Contrast that to the hallowed (hollow?) Pillar of Democracy the United States where a minority political party controls the government policy and a sadistic lunatic is president who doesn't give a flying <deleted> about his citizenry except for a rabid minority voter base. 

On 10/8/2020 at 10:10 AM, Thaiwrath said:

I think it is obvious,  most of those polled have no connection on the tourist industry, are fully employed, and could not give a flying <deleted> about anyone else.

Yes, good sign that the majority of Thais are now fully employed. Bad for the tourist industry that Western countries cannot get their pest under control at the moment. 

And good Thailand has a strong informal sector so people can survive in their villages somehow. Guess Western countries will need this too pretty soon. 

On 10/8/2020 at 10:37 AM, ChipButty said:

Go and ask the bar girls see what they say, I see one complaining the other day she's not had sex for 10 weeks

Almost virgin again. 55555555

On 10/9/2020 at 4:03 PM, Nicknoodle said:

Absolutely nonsense! Majority of Thais say no? Really? This poll is irrelevant. BUT, my little poll of my Thai friends is 100% want farrang in thailand. 

Question being : how many Thai friends do you have???