Infected French woman: Virus found on gym equipment at her quarantine hotel

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Infected French woman: Virus found on gym equipment at her quarantine hotel

 

Picture: Sanook

 

The Covid-19 fan page on Facebook announced that traces of the virus had been found on gym equipment in a fitness room at the hotel in Samut Prakan where a French visitor was staying. 

 

The 57 year old woman subsequently tested positive for Covid-19 after falling unwell on Koh Samui.

 

She had stayed at the hotel from September 30th to October 15th, reported Sanook.

 

The media said the positive test on the gym equipment was one of seven samples taken at the quarantine hotel. An further investigation is underway at the ASQ (alternative state quarantine) facility.

 

Sixty seven of sixty eight staff there have tested negative as have all those who were in close contact with the woman who flew in from Limoges, France. 

 

These include her two family members, a friend who picked them up, and 12 passengers and crew on a flight. 

 

People can call 1422 if they have concerns.

 

Source: Sanook

 

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[daiwill60]

So many questions about this report. 

Only 7 samples were taken, why so few in a large building?

Did the woman actually use the gym?

Was the virus present in the gym before she became infected, or did she become infected elsewhere and then subsequently infect the gym?
Did she become infected on Koh Samui or during her passage to Koh Samui?

 

I guess we will never certainly know, but we will carry on with lockdowns and quarantines nevertheless. 

Edited October 26, 2020 by daiwill60
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[alianware]

Have you ever heard from other rest of the world that virus found in a room or in fitness room ?? 

I hear this first time in thailand !. There wqs even a study that science did not find virus in family's room.  Funny ! 

Is this a way to cover that actually there is thai out there, who is infected !

Edited October 26, 2020 by alianware

[RichardColeman]

Yeah, yeah , we know, a dirty farang was using the gym beforehand

[Oldie]

The other question is why was she allowed to enter Thailand. She is from a high risk country. Are they not blocked? 

[Saltire]

I've seen in other places that she is in fact a Thai citizen with dual (French) nationality, but not sure if that's the case. Can never be sure.

 

'Sixty seven of sixty eight staff there have tested negative' so is there one more positive?

 

Why are so many articles and reports on here so badly written, is it deliberate? They generate more questions than they give 'facts'.

 

 

 

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, Saltire said:

Why are so many articles and reports on here so badly written,

I'm guessing the stories are originally written in Thai and it's translation errors.

[4MyEgo]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Sixty seven of sixty eight staff there have tested negative as have all those who were in close contact with the woman who flew in from Limoges, France. 

So none of them went to the gym ????

 

[Sheryl]

15 minutes ago, Oldie said:

The other question is why was she allowed to enter Thailand. She is from a high risk country. Are they not blocked? 

Only from the Special Tourist Visa.

 

The Thai media has taken to describing all foreign arrivals as "tourists". She was nto a tourist.

 

In fact some sources suggest she had dual Thai/French nationality.

 

FWIW the part of France she came from has very low COVID rates.

[Sheryl]

3 hours ago, alianware said:

Have you ever heard from other rest of the world that virus found in a room or in fitness room ?? 

I hear this first time in thailand !. There wqs even a study that science did not find virus in family's room.  Funny ! 

Is this a way to cover that actually there is thai out there, who is infected !

 

It is well known that the virus can live on inanimate objects, especially indoors.

 

Gyms are especially high risk environments due to tnedency of peopkle to grunt, breath hard etc while working out.

 

This is why gyms were closed during lockdowns and among the last places allowed to reopen.

 

The timing of her infection makes it 99% sure her infection occurred while in quarantine.

 

Obviously the original source could have been of any nationality who used the gym. This is really not relevant, as is her visa status

 

What is relevant is that quarantine, meant to contain infection, actually spread it in this instance.

 

I would expect to see new guidance issued to ASQ facilities about use of gyms.

[rtco]

47 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

I would expect to see new guidance issued to ASQ facilities about use of gyms.

It then becomes "solitary confinement" ... and they think other "tourists" will opt for that ... not a chance

[Mak25]

49 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

I would expect to see new guidance issued to ASQ facilities about use of gyms.

 

I rather think the guidance exists already but has just not been followed.

[natway09]

I also heard the the lady in question is Thai, but married to a French dude.

Maybe she travelled on her French PP but that in itself is strange as even if the Thai PP expired she would still be allowed entry. Some smoke & mirrors here methinks

[Cake Monster]

1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

What is relevant is that quarantine, meant to contain infection, actually spread it in this instance.

If all other Guests were allowed to used the same piece of Equipment, then there is no surprise that there is an infection.

Quarantine should mean Isolation, with no access to common ground as used by other Guests

IE Gym, Swimming Pool Etc 

This incident also brings into question the ASQ facilities ability ( or otherwise ) to completely adhere to Covid restrictions with regard to cleaning and Sanitising.

[klauskunkel]

If she got infected while in a quarantine hotel, she should at the very least get her money back...

Edited October 26, 2020 by klauskunkel

[GroveHillWanderer]

5 hours ago, alianware said:

Have you ever heard from other rest of the world that virus found in a room or in fitness room ?? 

It has been documented since the very early days of this virus that it can be contracted via fomites and can persist on hard surfaces for some time. A recent Australian study found that it can remain viable on objects and surfaces (in ideal conditions) for up to 28 days.

 

Coronavirus can last 28 days on objects

[from the home of CC]

2 hours ago, Sheryl said:

 

It is well known that the virus can live on inanimate objects, especially indoors.

 

Gyms are especially high risk environments due to tnedency of peopkle to grunt, breath hard etc while working out.

 

This is why gyms were closed during lockdowns and among the last places allowed to reopen.

 

The timing of her infection makes it 99% sure her infection occurred while in quarantine.

 

Obviously the original source could have been of any nationality who used the gym. This is really not relevant, as is her visa status

 

What is relevant is that quarantine, meant to contain infection, actually spread it in this instance.

 

I would expect to see new guidance issued to ASQ facilities about use of gyms.

with garrulous loud conversations and glass surfaces everywhere bars are just as bad and in many cases worse.. 

[LawrenceN]

2 hours ago, Sheryl said:

 

It is well known that the virus can live on inanimate objects, especially indoors.

 

Gyms are especially high risk environments due to tnedency of peopkle to grunt, breath hard etc while working out.

 

This is why gyms were closed during lockdowns and among the last places allowed to reopen.

 

The timing of her infection makes it 99% sure her infection occurred while in quarantine.

 

Obviously the original source could have been of any nationality who used the gym. This is really not relevant, as is her visa status

 

What is relevant is that quarantine, meant to contain infection, actually spread it in this instance.

 

I would expect to see new guidance issued to ASQ facilities about use of gyms.

I gave you a Thanks emoji. Whenever I'm scrolling through the TV cynicism, it's a joy to see 'Sheryl' come scrolling by. You're a voice of reason among the howling madmen. 

[ronaldo0]

Did she fly from Bkk to samui ? If so have they tested everyone on that flight and everyone that boarded the plane she was on after ? Surely if it can stay on gym equipment it would be able to stay on plastics in a plane etc ? 

[Oldie]

54 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

It has been documented since the very early days of this virus that it can be contracted via fomites and can persist on hard surfaces for some time. A recent Australian study found that it can remain viable on objects and surfaces (in ideal conditions) for up to 28 days.

 

Coronavirus can last 28 days on objects

She left the hotel quite a while ago and the virus still was found on this fitness equipment. Do they clean in this quarantine hotel? 

[GroveHillWanderer]

5 minutes ago, Oldie said:

She left the hotel quite a while ago and the virus still was found on this fitness equipment. Do they clean in this quarantine hotel? 

Not well enough, apparently. ????

[Burma Bill]

Please note, Mr Anutin, a "dirty" THAI hotel!!!!

[Sametboy2019]

More to the point. If the Gym is supposed to be the point of infection why after her travelling to Samui is there still covid on the equipment? It should be disinfected everyday.

People are paying top money to these hotels and they cant even make them safe! 

Edited October 26, 2020 by Sametboy2019
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[kotsak]

7 minutes ago, Sametboy2019 said:

More to the point. If the Gym is supposed to be the point of infection why after her travelling to Samui is there still covid on the equipment? It should be disinfected everyday.

People are paying top money to these hotels and they cant even make them safe! 

 

They don't give a rat's a$$, keyword is "money". ????

[Gillyflower]

4 hours ago, Oldie said:

The other question is why was she allowed to enter Thailand. She is from a high risk country. Are they not blocked? 

My question is.....why want to go on hols at this time of the year with the covid everywhere.  I don't have any sympathy for the family.  At the limit, take them in her own country.

[tomazbodner]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

Sixty seven of sixty eight staff there have tested negative

And the sixty eighth one?

[Tropicalevo]

21 minutes ago, Gillyflower said:

My question is.....why want to go on hols at this time of the year with the covid everywhere.  I don't have any sympathy for the family.  At the limit, take them in her own country.

Please try and keep up.

She did not go on hols. She was returning to her home on Samui.

She is not a tourist.

[Oldie]

13 minutes ago, Gillyflower said:

My question is.....why want to go on hols at this time of the year with the covid everywhere.  I don't have any sympathy for the family.  At the limit, take them in her own country.

I don't know what she does here. Perhaps she visits relatives.

 

But to Farang tourists in general. I ask myself if the Thai government is aware of the kind of Farang tourists that could come here. Many don't care about protection, some even will aggressively refuse it and some even like to make Corona parties. It is a completely different mentality than Thai people have. There is a reason why they have so many cases there. And I don't believe that this quarantine idea will work 100 percent. We saw it at this lady. Just to clarify - I am a Farang too. 

[SePl]

she just arrived with the virus as most people, very easy to understand, more than 50% tests are wrong.

 

 

[Bkktodd]

7 hours ago, Oldie said:

The other question is why was she allowed to enter Thailand. She is from a high risk country. Are they not blocked? 

She was clear of covid.  Before and during.  Does it matter high risk or low.   Clear is clear.   Cant wait until a Chinese brings in a case so we can throw that ridiculous theory